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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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I've always agreed with your statements about future advancements' continual integration of chips.
Iris Pro is clocked 100Mhz higher. But I guess most of the performance increase is due to the EDRAM
I'm seriously tempted by the iMac...then I could just use my iPad with a keyboard as a sort of MBP lite
I confess the thought crossed my mind as well.
While there are definitely instances where I would need a MBP in the field, the primary deal-breaker for me is the iMac's lack of a retina screen. It's such an obvious "future standard" feature that I simply refuse to buy a new Mac that doesn't have it.
How much does the BTO 1TB SSD cost? Perhaps we'll see a rmbp refresh next week, to keep releasing new products every Tuesday. A refresh might not be so far away as previously thought, but if there are some manufacturing difficulties with the new rmbp, Apple will launch it when it's ready, not when they think it should be launched (within a reasonable timespan, of course). I missed the whole iMac refresh due to school. What are the improvements other than the obvious?
Good point, well made. Still not sure but as it's a heck of a lot of money (I'm a student), I'll wait until the end of October. If there's an event, I'll buy the MBP, if there isn't, I'll probably plump for the iMac.
On another note, I feel sorry for my friend's dad...he spent nearly $5000 on a maxed out 2012 iMac yesterday unaware that it was outdated and an update was likely coming soon - he even paid >$2000 for a 768GB SSD upgrade & 32GB RAM which he didn't even know he could install himself.
I don't even think he'll use it, I reckon an iPad probably would've suited his uses fine!
As he bought it from a 3rd-party seller and opened it, he can't return it.
On another note, I feel sorry for my friend's dad...he spent nearly $5000 on a maxed out 2012 iMac yesterday unaware that it was outdated and an update was likely coming soon - he even paid >$2000 for a 768GB SSD upgrade & 32GB RAM which he didn't even know he could install himself.
I don't even think he'll use it, I reckon an iPad probably would've suited his uses fine!
As he bought it from a 3rd-party seller and opened it, he can't return it.
A nightmare scenario for a MacRumors nerd, but thankfully a total non-factor for a guy who'll be using his computer primarily as a giant iPad.
Do you happen to own a 4K television? Or have you spent the last several years gagging at 1080P?
What you consider a "future standard" really isn't much of a standard at all. You may be asking for something unrealistic.
http://isthisretina.com/
Correct.
Apple thought the Intel 4000 HD integrated graphics were good enough for the 13" rMBP, but not the 15" rMBP which has 27% more pixels. Is the Iris Pro 5200 integrated graphics at least 27% more powerful than the 4000 HD integrated graphics? Yes, it's more than twice as powerful. In my opinion, that is much more relevant than Apple's step toward integrated graphics in the 21.5" iMac.
... given the engineering constraints of the iMac.
Yes, I keed. Like I said in another thread, If somebody can remember the sequence to circumvent the Touch ID then they can have it. (Just because I think theyve earned it.)Please tell me you're joking.
If 25 years of marriage has taught me anything... it makes no difference to me if Apple gets it or a shoe store.
Yes, I keed. Like I said in another thread, If somebody can remember the sequence to circumvent the Touch ID then they can have it. (Just because I think theyve earned it.)
If 25 years of marriage has taught me anything... it makes no difference to me if Apple gets it or a shoe store.
Oh man this was great.
And I love my wife like crazy. 
Does the new iMac have Thunderbolt 2?
No. It seems like Apple is going to tout TB2 on the Mac Pro. No way are they going to have a silent update on the iMac steal any thunder, no pun intended, from the Mac Pro.
If the Haswell rMBP is released at the same time Apple announces the availability of the Mac Pro, IMO there is a chance they may get TB2. But just a chance. If they are announced at the same time then the chance is probably better.
can some one please explain to me the practical benefits of TB2 over TB1? Because TB1 is already extremely fast. So, what would TB2 allow one to do that TB1 can't - other than doing it faster. Thanks in advance.
A nightmare scenario for a MacRumors nerd, but thankfully a total non-factor for a guy who'll be using his computer primarily as a giant iPad.
Yes, a giant iPad that costs $5k and is 3x the size - sounds pretty cool actually
If 25 years of marriage has taught me anything... it makes no difference to me if Apple gets it or a shoe store.
Oh man this was great.
I can't imagine loving a woman so much as to allow her to buy ... shoes. Someone is SO p-whipped!
If 25 years of marriage has taught me anything... it makes no difference to me if Apple gets it or a shoe store.
One would think though, it would make *some* difference to you if the money went to the shoe store.
I've been trying to figure that out too. They are marketing TB2 as "UHD-capable", but some mac owners are already using the Seiki 39" at 30Hz (only $700 by the way).
I can't imagine loving a woman so much as to allow her to buy ... shoes. Someone is SO p-whipped!
It is unimaginable - but she makes up for it in other ways.. Do you happen to own a 4K television? Or have you spent the last several years gagging at 1080P?
What you consider a "future standard" really isn't much of a standard at all. You may be asking for something unrealistic.
http://isthisretina.com/
Oh, go on, you!
That retina display is a luxury now, but do you really think the tech industry at large will unanimously decide to forego higher resolution displays just because current tech is "good enough"?
There will come a day (in the not-too-distant future), where so-called 'retina' resolution is the norm, and I'd rather just make the leap now.
yes
TB2 allows to connect 4K external monitor (they are coming), TB1 cannot do it.
Also, I am hoping for a potential to connect an external GPU to rMBP, TB2 will apparently be able to handle it better (there were successes doing it with TB1 on MBA for example). But this is just my wish more than an officially supported path by Apple.
TB2 allows to connect 4K external monitor (they are coming), TB1 cannot do it.
Also, I am hoping for a potential to connect an external GPU to rMBP, TB2 will apparently be able to handle it better (there were successes doing it with TB1 on MBA for example). But this is just my wish more than an officially supported path by Apple.
Dude, you're way too caught up in this. First off, it isn't apple's primary goal to get rid of dGPU across all their devices. It is more a secondary goal (even though it's not officially a goal at all - more a generally assumption based on their actions thus far). They will keep dGPU until they think iGPU will meet their requirement for performance in said device/product. Second, I think it is a great indicator seeing that the iMac's (even high end 21.5 inch) still have dGPUs, in regards to anticipation for the 15" rMBP's. It shows that they think the NVIDIA 750M has better graphical potential than the Intel Iris Pro iGPU. Third, Iris Pro is equivalent to the 640M, and does not meet the performance of the 650M. Thus it is not the iGPU to beat, or replace the 650M, as shown by this update, since the iMac (21.5 inch base model) which Iris Pro replaced, previously had 640M graphics.
What is still up in the air: Whether they will drop the dGPU because they want theoretical superb battery life for the rMBP this year
With that said, it is no doubt that maybe next year, or the year after, apple might be in consideration of dropping the dGPU across all rMBP models (I personally think it depends on whether they want to retain competitive graphics, or settle with Intel graphics as they meet mobile "standards").
That's fine that you prefer OpenCL performance. However apple obviously thinks that the 750M has better overall performance for their iMac. For all of those using other programs, and possibly 3D modeling, I guess they're not pro enough to prefer the dGPU
. If you're so concerned, just buy the base model Haha yeah I was in class, only read 1 page back, didn't realize there were already 4 new pages behind me
I would say it's probably very likely
It's been explained over and over, it has nothing to do with the Intel 4000 graphics. Intel graphics can push a display. Intel 4000 is not a potato, it can push a high resolution
Also you answered your own question at the end; it is almost purely software.Lol you crack me up every time with that phrase
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You misunderstand why the 4000HD wasn't in the 15" then. It wasn't because it couldn't push enough pixels. It's because it wasn't powerful enough for a "professional" machine.
Heck, the 15" HAS a 4000HD in it which it can run off. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about - like most the Iris pro in 15" proponents.
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