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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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manic mouse said:
you misunderstand why the 4000hd wasn't in the 15" then. It wasn't because it couldn't push enough pixels. It's because it wasn't powerful enough for a "professional" machine.

Heck, the 15" has a 4000hd in it which it can run off. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about - like most the iris pro in 15" proponents.
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+1
 
powerslave12r said:
And probably not price conscious. :D

I would love for the prices to drop by $150-200 for the base models.
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Eventually, prices on rMBP will definitely drop. And I highly expect them to do so on this update. Because there is no way Apple will hold on to the MBPs and retinas will take place of theirs.
Lastly, rMBP will be the new MBP.
 
tuna9720 said:
Eventually, prices on rMBP will definitely drop. And I highly expect them to do so on this update. Because there is no way Apple will hold on to the MBPs and retinas will take place of theirs.
Lastly, rMBP will be the new MBP.
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Idk if we're there yet, but if not this time then next time. I think it's possible for them to put HD 4600 in the cMBP line up and Iris Pro in high end cMBP if they wanted.

I still think the gap is a little too wide, and it's just not possible to drop the price of rMBP by more than $200 because of SSD prices

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GSPice said:
So the iMacs come with:

21"
Iris Pro
GT 750M/1GB

27"
GT 755M/1GB
GT 775M/2GB
GTX 780M/2GB

Take your pick, folks. :D
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Haha I definitely think either 750M or 755M for mid-high end 15" rMBP.

I want 2GB ram but it certainty will only be 1GB.

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The 755M is almost exactly what the 660M is to the 650M. And seeing as apple overclocked the 650M to the 660M's speeds, I don't see why they wouldn't simply put the 755M in there. Since it is essentially, done for them already ;) . But they may have other reasons for it. They could just overclock the 750M to 755M too. Either way, I'm fairly confident it'll be one of those two
 
VanillaCracker said:
Idk if we're there yet, but if not this time then next time. I think it's possible for them to put HD 4600 in the cMBP line up and Iris Pro in high end cMBP if they wanted.

I still think the gap is a little too wide, and it's just not possible to drop the price of rMBP by more than $200 because of SSD prices

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Haha I definitely think either 750M or 755M for mid-high end 15" rMBP.

I want 2GB ram but it certainty will only be 1GB.
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$200 off is the right amount for today I guess. The reason Apple can't/shouldn't keep cMBP is because it's outdated in almost every way. It's too heavy and doesn't look like today's Apple computers. Having cMBPs upgrade to the rMBP specs make no sense, therefore MBPs will be gone soon IMO.
 
PDFierro said:
There were people who said that? There were all very good reasons for the rMBP to not be released in the months before. But we all know the rMBP is coming in October, despite a select few on here thinking it isn't ready.
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I do remember June and maybe July and August. I also remember September awhile back after WWDC.
 
mcarling said:
Thank you for the kind words!


I thank you also for the kind words, but please note that I have never written that 2013 will be the year Apple will drop the discrete GPU from the 15" MBP. I'm sure it will happen someday. I think it's likely to happen this year. If it doesn't happen with the Haswell update, then I think it will be overwhelmingly likely (but still not quite certain) to happen with the Broadwell update.
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I've always thought your posts are informative, logical, and to-the-point. I don't believe I have had the opportunity to actually disagree with you on something, but I'm sure something will come up eventually.:D
 
Manic Mouse said:
You misunderstand why the 4000HD wasn't in the 15" then. It wasn't because it couldn't push enough pixels. It's because it wasn't powerful enough for a "professional" machine.
Heck, the 15" HAS a 4000HD in it which it can run off. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about - like most of the Iris pro in 15" proponents.
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May I ask what is the standard for a "Professional" machine in your mind, because I believe mcarling was referring to the fact that the 15" rmbp had to rely on the dgpu many times during daily operation (or so I have been told), and that the Iris Pro would sufficiently drive the retina display without need of an external source of graphics processing power. Perhaps you believe that a "Pro" machine, without any doubts, must always include a discrete graphics processing unit. And technically speaking, you cannot with absolute certainty claim that he misunderstood why the Intel 4000 HD integrated graphics were not the main GPU in the rmbp, because only Apple knows why they made that decision.

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johnnylarue said:
I confess the thought crossed my mind as well.

While there are definitely instances where I would need a MBP in the field, the primary deal-breaker for me is the iMac's lack of a retina screen. It's such an obvious "future standard" feature that I simply refuse to buy a new Mac that doesn't have it.
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Well I have half of that equation, as I do have an iPad with a keyboard case, but no iMac:D

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tuna9720 said:
$200 off is the right amount for today I guess. The reason Apple can't/shouldn't keep cMBP is because it's outdated in almost every way. It's too heavy and doesn't look like today's Apple computers. Having cMBPs upgrade to the rMBP specs make no sense, therefore MBPs will be gone soon IMO.
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A 200$ price drop would be nice, but I would rather have a base SSD upgrade to maybe 256 GB, or more likely, 160~.
 
I do hope that the MBP update is more significant than the iMac update, though.
 
I'm looking forward to the iFixIt teardown of the iMac as I'm hoping that new 1TB SSD is in the form of a stick and not in some other form factor. Based on it being PCIe based that does seem logical that it would be a stick and if so I think it is likely to be an option on the new Retina MacBook Pro.
 
Quu said:
I'm looking forward to the iFixIt teardown of the iMac as I'm hoping that new 1TB SSD is in the form of a stick and not in some other form factor. Based on it being PCIe based that does seem logical that it would be a stick and if so I think it is likely to be an option on the new Retina MacBook Pro.
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It shouldn't be too long of a wait.
 
Quu said:
I'm looking forward to the iFixIt teardown of the iMac as I'm hoping that new 1TB SSD is in the form of a stick and not in some other form factor. Based on it being PCIe based that does seem logical that it would be a stick and if so I think it is likely to be an option on the new Retina MacBook Pro.
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Still a bit of a pipe dream for me: here in Canada, the BTO price for an upgrade to the 1TB SSD (from the stock iMac config) is $1000. Ouch!
 
johnnylarue said:
Still a bit of a pipe dream for me: here in Canada, the BTO price for an upgrade to the 1TB SSD (from the stock iMac config) is $1000. Ouch!
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I'm planning to buy a fully maxed out one so the better the top specs the better for me. Money is no object with this upgrade I've been waiting so long the pile of money set aside for the computer is incurring interest. :D
 
johnnylarue said:
Still a bit of a pipe dream for me: here in Canada, the BTO price for an upgrade to the 1TB SSD (from the stock iMac config) is $1000. Ouch!
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I forgot to mention, I'm in the UK. The 1TB SSD in the iMac here works out $1279.68 US Dollars.

By comparison the upgrade from 512GB SSD to 768GB SSD in the Retina MacBook Pro currently costs $511.87 US Dollar. A maxed out Retina MacBook Pro in the UK thus works out as $4509.55 US Dollars. In the USA the same notebook only costs $3,449.00 US Dollars. This means it is actually cheaper for me to get a flight to the United States and back to get the Notebook and I'd still have hundreds of dollars left over. :rolleyes:

Yes we do have a 20% Value Added Tax here in the UK however that would only account for the $689.25 difference, not the other $370.75.

Rip off britain :p
 
Quu said:
I forgot to mention, I'm in the UK. The 1TB SSD in the iMac here works out $1279.68 US Dollars.

By comparison the upgrade from 512GB SSD to 768GB SSD in the Retina MacBook Pro currently costs $511.87 US Dollar. A maxed out Retina MacBook Pro in the UK thus works out as $4509.55 US Dollars. In the USA the same notebook only costs $3,449.00 US Dollars. This means it is actually cheaper for me to get a flight to the United States and back to get the Notebook and I'd still have hundreds of dollars left over. :rolleyes:

Yes we do have a 20% Value Added Tax here in the UK however that would only account for the $689.25 difference, not the other $370.75.

Rip off britain :p
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Don't cry. Here in Denmark, the 1TB upgrade costs $1375.

Maxed out 15" rMBP is $4880.
 
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