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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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This. I'm done having kids, but I'd still like the boys staying cool when it's on my lap. Which is all the time.
Any input on this International Business Times article?
Haven't seen any mbp benchmarks since July. What about the "TB2 GPU" and 4K resolution bits?
Haven't seen any mbp benchmarks since July. What about the "TB2 GPU" and 4K resolution bits?
Is that really a concern of yours? Unless it's your newborn baby is holding a laptop on it's lap, I'm sure your kids will notice if the laptop gets too hot.
If they drag this out I'll get the MBA or maybe even a cMBP. Might even see what HP or Lenovo have to offer (though I shudder at the thought of going back to PC!). I'm rather ticked at my local Apple Store for slapping free band-aids on my mid-2009 MBP that keeps eating hard drive cables. Just give me the bad news instead of "reseating" a fried cable!! Ugh.
I guess the 'boys' he is talking about are not children. YET
lcseds 'swimmers' have two tails and a drill bit for a head!!!
Any input on this International Business Times article?
Haven't seen any mbp benchmarks since July. What about the "TB2 GPU" and 4K resolution bits?
It sounds like they have no idea what they're talking about and slammed all the rumors from various Mac products together into one incomprehensible mess (TB2 on the Mac Pro, 4K TB displays being released at the same time, not even knowing what TB2 actually is since they called it a GPU).
More importantly, that's a serious click bait ad-filled site there. I would consider it relatively unsafe to visit. Check out the grammar in the "article" too, it's pretty funny.
Any input on this International Business Times article?
Haven't seen any mbp benchmarks since July. What about the "TB2 GPU" and 4K resolution bits?
I haven't seen such a benchmark either. Now I'm very interested in seeing it!
If they delay the update to 2014, I will guy the current gen rMBP.
I was in a shop yesterday, comparing closely MBA, rMBP and cMBP. Guys it's the second time I do this comparison and:
1) MBA: bad bad monitor. First because colours are much worse than both cMBP and rMBP, but also because I don't like the 1440x900 resolution on a 13" with Mac. System fonts are way too small to be comfortable. Finally, an apple laptop without the glass that cover the entire monitor? Nah!! Second, to make it a decent machine you need at least 8gb and the i7. But with this configuration price is very close with rMBP so why?
2) cMBP has a decent monitor with the right resolution. Yeah you see the difference with respect to retina, but much less than the air monitor. It's an usable monitor. cMBP is upgradeable and has the very nice possibility of mounting both an SSD and an HDD like iMac. Finally it look more robust and if something get broken you can easily fix it. I'm still quite tempted on buying it although it's pretty bulky as compared with rMBP. The point is that I'm buying something old, that will get outdated much much earlier than a rMBP. So, with 500€ difference in price I may consider this option, with about 280€ not al all.
3) rMBP (actual gen). Gorgeous monitor, ideally the perfect laptop even if it costs a lot (at least for me - I convinced myself because I HATE windows 8, I promise myself that I will not buy a new mac at least for 5-6 years and above all I hope it's more comfortable for my eyes to read on a retina display since I spend a lot of time in front of a computer). Problems are the first generation russian roulette in the monitor and a design that does not look equally robust as compared with cMBP (no thick glass in front of the monitor). Finally if somethings broken you are ****ed.
To sum up:
1) rMBP (actual gen). Pro: monitor, updated design, no HDD. Cons: expensive, not easily reparable.
2) cMBP. Pro: User updateable, very robust design, combo SSD+HDD. Decent monitor and less expensive than rMBP. Cons: mainly an outdated design and its size.
3) MBA. Pro: weight and price. Con: slow processors, only 4gb RAM, bad bad monitor.
-Possible TB2 (very likely IMO as it will be seen in the Mac Pro. I expect Apple will want both of their Pro lines to work with their new TB2 display).
-Faster wifi (see Air refresh)
-Faster SSD (see Air refresh again)
-Huge GPU upgrade on the 13" model (HD4000 vs HD 5100)
-Some versions of the 15" may include a 750m (or 755m, same thing) which would be a minor GPU upgrade.
Haswell itself significantly improves power efficiency at low load states, which is how most laptops are used the majority of the time. This means battery life, yes. There's also likely to be a ~10% speed gain on the high end CPU options (technically uncertain until we see what CPUs they're using as the top options and they get benchmarked).
Yeah, it definitely seemed to be a lot of rehashing posed as new information.
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If you read this thread you will find more information about the next rMBP. Wifi, PCIe, etc.
Yes, battery life. Like I've mentioned before in this thread, I'd probably feel a lot differently if the Haswell rMBP didn't switch to the dGPU for applications that obviously don't need it.
At least it will also have Wifi 802.11ac and faster SSD, I want faster Wifi, SSD and longer battery life. It is my main demands on the 13 inch. Also want integrated GPU so I get longer battery life with projector connected. Or you can force the computer to stay on integrated GPU running Keynote on external monitor (which you can't now).
The rest is a bonus for me.
I will keep my rMBP 15.
I will get Mac Pro when a decent 4K monitor is available for less then 3.000 USD in my country.
This right here is the main reason I have to assume Apple wants the laptop dGPU gone, regardless of whether or not they'll do it this generation. They've never been able to build a good system to control when the dGPU comes on, which means many users end up killing their battery doing tasks that you wouldn't think need a more powerful GPU (and which in fact do not need it). They're unwilling to go to a user-controlled system (in fact a software update at some point broke 3rd party GPU switch control software) because it would confuse so many people.
The future of laptop GPUs is more powerful iGPUs and optional external desktop-class GPUs. We're not quite there yet -- the bandwidth is still a limiting factor and Intel isn't allowing it to happen via TB yet -- but you can find examples of it working (there was one example linked in one of these threads just recently where an external GPU had been hooked to the MBA via TB with decent results).
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple someday offers their TB displays with an internal slot for a desktop-class GPU.
If the dGPU were removed I'd venture to say Apple would lose at least half the potential first-timer 15" buyers, the repeaters and those looking to upgrade from the 13". (Regardless of any souped up benchmarks). These people certainly can't upgrade to the MBP17 anymore and the new Mac Pro isn't even in the same universe.
In short, I don't think Apple has the canoles to rip the dGPU from their only perceived "power" laptop just yet.
This is Apple at its least reasonable. I may not like it, but I can live with soldered-in RAM, battery, and the move towards non-user-serviceable hardware in general in Apple laptops. But to deliberately sabotage a 3rd party app that effectively solved an inherently flawed native software feature just because *some* people wouldn't know how to use it?? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong--and one of the many reasons I stuck with Snow Leopard on my (bullet-proof) MBP17.
I realize that most MBP users aren't "professionals" at all, let alone computer hardware experts, but it's just plain ridiculous to forbid people who know what they're doing to make their computers work better. Never mind the fact that figuring out gfxcardstatus (I think that's what it was called) was hardly rocket science.
Here's hoping history doesn't repeat itself with regards to GPU switching in the upcoming MPBs.
Damn. I'm strongly considering getting the Macbook Pro now. All of the other bickering between switching GPU's etc. all only about the rMBP right?
I'd like to see a 4K display with a built-in GPU card (replaceable). That would solve the bandwidth problem.
http://www.macg.co/news/voir/261343/premiers-tests-avec-le-nouvel-imac-haswell
seems that IRIS PRO is better than 640M and 650M in OpenGL, and the RAM faster as well? why? is the same 8GB RAM 1600mhz DDR3 in both models 2013 and 2012
so we can expect from the rMBP haswell too?
seems that IRIS PRO is better than 640M and 650M in OpenGL, and the RAM faster as well? why? is the same 8GB RAM 1600mhz DDR3 in both models 2013 and 2012
so we can expect from the rMBP haswell too?
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