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My original prediction was the 22nd, and the only other original rumor is the 15th.. that's why I'm thinking we might hear something a week or two before either the 15th or 22nd.

Let's hypothetically say Mavericks is coming out on the 24th, and we get the rMBP unveil on the 15th.

What would Apple do in that scenario? Have they, in the past, released new Macs a week before the OS update came out?
 
I would be happy if they release the (supposed) new rMBP's before black friday. I think, (and correct me if I'm wrong), that last time they lowered the price about a 100 dollars on the rMBP's... right?

I'm not too sure, but I know it must have been around 100-200$.

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I can't wait to see the outcry if there is no dGPU.

Me too. But really, most people already acknowledge that the 15" Haswell Rmbp will do without a discrete GPU.

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MacRumours has posted a rumour roundup for the MacBook Pros. https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/macbook-pro/ It's just a rehash of what we've suspected all along.
 
Other than Thunderbolt 2, discussions about ports on the upcoming rmbp have been scarce on this thread. What revision of HDMI will the haswell rmbp include (personally I think it'll have HDMI 1.4 like the upcoming Mac Pro). Will the rmbp even include HDMI? Will there be an increase in USB ports? Will they be updated to USB 3.1 (most likely not)? Will the ports be moved around? Will Apple change the MagSafe 2 connector back to the L-shaped form of it's predecessor? Will Apple move the ports around? Will Apple include more Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple decrease the amount of Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple go back to a dedicated power button separate from the keyboard? Questions like these and discussions about them will make the thread a tiny bit more interesting, in my opinion.
 
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Other than Thunderbolt 2, discussions about ports on the upcoming rmbp have been scarce on this thread. What revision of HDMI will the haswell rmbp include (personally I think it'll have HDMI 1.4 like the upcoming Mac Pro). Will the rmbp even include HDMI? Will there be an increase in USB ports? Will they be updated to USB 3.1 (most likely not)? Will the ports be moved around? Will Apple change the MagSafe 2 connector back to the L-shaped form of it's predecessor? Will Apple move the ports around? Will Apple include more Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple decrease the amount of Thunderbolt ports? Questions like these and discussions about them will make the thread a tiny bit more interesting, in my opinion.

There has been no discussion on it because everything will remain the same. Moving everything around or changing/adding ports is something that just wouldn't happen.
 
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/monito...ample_4K_Display_Panels_for_15_6_Laptops.html

Xbitlabs is pretty reputable. Hopefully this rumor is true. 4K IGZO on 15inch MBP, 15 oct cant come soon enough..

Anyways, been reading way too much of this thread, thought I would bring some more good rumors :)

This seems like a good reason to buy the rMBP's next year :D

Lol just like the iPhone's (I'm assuming the iPhone 6 will finally have a resolution bump again) we're gonna have varying levels of resolution. It's gonna force software companies to adjust to the whole "4K" display notion that is seemingly becoming the norm in 2014-2016.

As long as they keep the ~720p option for screen real estate I'm fine with the evolution. 1080p is just too small for my liking. I think apple has done a good job with their adjustment options so far
 
And I'm that anxious for the new rMBP that I did actually read the whole thing.

I was hoping for some new rumours in the article, but I guess Kuo couldn't come through this time:rolleyes:.

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There has been no discussion on it because everything will remain the same. Moving everything around or changing/adding ports is something that just wouldn't happen.

How can you say that with certainty?
 
I think 4K displays are unlikely for the following reasons:
*Macbooks use a 16:10 aspect ratio, 3840*2160 is 16:9.
*Macbooks tend to sell fairly well for their price level, and supply of these displays is likely very limited since they only have a single plant working on the displays. The alternative is to delay the Haswell rMBP to early spring 2014.
*Apple probably went through a great deal of trouble to ensure that the supply of their current display technology is fault free. It would probably be more profitable to keep using it than to switch.
*Apple has been slow to adopt new screen technologies in the past. The retina laptops are the only IPS displays in the Macbook lineup.
 
I was hoping for some new rumours in the article, but I guess Kuo couldn't come through this time:rolleyes:.

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How can you say that with certainty?

It's completely illogical. You are talking about a redesign here. Not going to happen. Apple just introduced the rMBP last year.

Anyone else would tell you the same thing.
 
This seems like a good reason to buy the rMBP's next year :D

Lol just like the iPhone's (I'm assuming the iPhone 6 will finally have a resolution bump again) we're gonna have varying levels of resolution. It's gonna force software companies to adjust to the whole "4K" display notion that is seemingly becoming the norm in 2014-2016.

As long as they keep the ~720p option for screen real estate I'm fine with the evolution. 1080p is just too small for my liking. I think apple has done a good job with their adjustment options so far

Dude. I guess I'm gonna be getting two MBPs within a year. :D
 
It's completely illogical. You are talking about a redesign here. Not going to happen. Apple just introduced the rMBP last year.

Anyone else would tell you the same thing.

Well, why couldn't Apple upgrade the HDMI ports to 1.4? Why couldn't they change the MagSafe connector back to being L-shaped instead of the t-shape currently implemented? I didn't say that anything in my post that every change would be likely to happen, but at least some of them are.

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As well, there was a somewhat large discussion a couple of months ago about Apple removing the HDMI port in this thread, I believe. It was after WWDC, and many of them seemed pretty sure that Apple was going to remove the HDMI port.
 
Well, why couldn't Apple upgrade the HDMI ports to 1.4? Why couldn't they change the MagSafe connector back to being L-shaped instead of the t-shape currently implemented? I didn't say that anything in my post that every change would be likely to happen, but at least some of them are.

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As well, there was a somewhat large discussion a couple of months ago about Apple removing the HDMI port in this thread, I believe. It was after WWDC, and many of them seemed pretty sure that Apple was going to remove the HDMI port.

The other suggestions you made don't even have a 0.01% chance of happening. I'm not really familiar with HDMI 1.4 at all, but I guess it could happen if the technology is there. I'm pretty sure we won't see USB 3.1 until next year, though.

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Yeah, I'm familiar with that. It just seems too close of dates to release the rMBP with Mountain Lion when Mavericks would be launching 10 days later. Just speculating here.
 
Other than Thunderbolt 2, discussions about ports on the upcoming rmbp have been scarce on this thread. What revision of HDMI will the haswell rmbp include (personally I think it'll have HDMI 1.4 like the upcoming Mac Pro). Will the rmbp even include HDMI? Will there be an increase in USB ports? Will they be updated to USB 3.1 (most likely not)? Will the ports be moved around? Will Apple change the MagSafe 2 connector back to the L-shaped form of it's predecessor? Will Apple move the ports around? Will Apple include more Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple decrease the amount of Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple go back to a dedicated power button separate from the keyboard? Questions like these and discussions about them will make the thread a tiny bit more interesting, in my opinion.

I would make the assumption that they will update their ports, USB, and HDMI, and also thunderbolt 2 if that is ready or willing to be implemented (I see no reason for it not to be - if it's going into the Mac Pro - they wouldn't keep that exclusive). They won't change their MagSafe back unfortunately because they L-shaped MagSafe doesn't fit (too tall - height) to fit on the slimmer rMBP's chassis. I highly doubt they'd add the dedicated power button back since they clearly removed it for a reason. That kinda stuff doesn't concern me, and I think it looks clearner this way, as the button was round and just looked semi-out of place.

I was hoping for some new rumours in the article, but I guess Kuo couldn't come through this time:rolleyes:.

:D

I think 4K displays are unlikely for the following reasons:
*Macbooks use a 16:10 aspect ratio, 3840*2160 is 16:9.
*Macbooks tend to sell fairly well for their price level, and supply of these displays is likely very limited since they only have a single plant working on the displays. The alternative is to delay the Haswell rMBP to early spring 2014.
*Apple probably went through a great deal of trouble to ensure that the supply of their current display technology is fault free. It would probably be more profitable to keep using it than to switch.
*Apple has been slow to adopt new screen technologies in the past. The retina laptops are the only IPS displays in the Macbook lineup.

4K displays don't have to follow a strict resolution of (3840 pixels × 2160), it simply means resolutions beyond a certain point. I'd say ~3500 pixels. Just like technically iPhone's don't have 720p displays. But they basically do. Apple will likely keep their aspect ratio, but still provide "4K" resolution quality.
 
The other suggestions you made don't even have a 0.01% chance of happening. I'm not really familiar with HDMI 1.4 at all, but I guess it could happen if the technology is there. I'm pretty sure we won't see USB 3.1 until next year, though.

I think you're underestimating what Apple might change.
 
I would make the assumption that they will update their ports, USB, and HDMI, and also thunderbolt 2 if that is ready or willing to be implemented (I see no reason for it not to be - if it's going into the Mac Pro - they wouldn't keep that exclusive). They won't change their MagSafe back unfortunately because they L-shaped MagSafe doesn't fit (too tall - height) to fit on the slimmer rMBP's chassis. I highly doubt they'd add the dedicated power button back since they clearly removed it for a reason. That kinda stuff doesn't concern me, and I think it looks clearner this way, as the button was round and just looked semi-out of place

Well, I meant a L-Shaped MagSafe 2 connector, which wouldn't really be hard for Apple to implement.

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When Apple implemented thunderbolt into the 2011 MacBook Pro, it didn't have a total redesign. If Apple see fit that they would want to remove or add a port, they will. Apple could remove the HDMI port as they could say that since thunderbolt 2 is capable of 4K output on a better scale than the original thunderbolt, Thunderbolt 2 could just replace HDMI.
 
Well, I meant a L-Shaped MagSafe 2 connector, which wouldn't really be hard for Apple to implement.

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When Apple implemented thunderbolt into the 2011 MacBook Pro, it didn't have a total redesign. If Apple see fit that they would want to remove or add a port, they will. Apple could remove the HDMI port as they could say that since thunderbolt 2 is capable of 4K output on a better scale than the original thunderbolt, Thunderbolt 2 could just replace HDMI.

My redesign comments were more referring to your suggestion that Apple would drop/add ports, move them around, etc.
 
Well, I meant a L-Shaped MagSafe 2 connector, which wouldn't really be hard for Apple to implement.

Ah, yeah I don't think they're gonna do that. Unless there was a butt load of complaints from people about the MagSafe 2 (current). They would have simply made a L-shaped (would have been the same shape) MagSafe 2 connector to begin with if they were going to do that. I'm guessing they changed the shape for market differentiation. They do a lot of subtle marketing things. I personally like the l-shape 100x more, as I like the asthetic, it prevents tearing/fraying a lot more easily, and because my cable goes BACK behind my desk 99% of the time, which means my cable sticks out to the side with the MagSafe 2. Annoying.

But whatever the 2013 Haswell MBA's have is what they'll do with the rMBP this year - just looked it up, it's the same MageSafe 2. Yeah it won't change for the rMBP's
 
Ah, yeah I don't think they're gonna do that. Unless there was a butt load of complaints from people about the MagSafe 2 (current). They would have simply made a L-shaped (would have been the same shape) MagSafe 2 connector to begin with if they were going to do that. I'm guessing they changed the shape for market differentiation. They do a lot of subtle marketing things. I personally like the l-shape 100x more, as I like the asthetic, it prevents tearing/fraying a lot more easily, and because my cable goes BACK behind my desk 99% of the time, which means my cable sticks out to the side with the MagSafe 2. Annoying.

But whatever the 2013 Haswell MBA's have is what they'll do with the rMBP this year - just looked it up, it's the same MageSafe 2. Yeah it won't change for the rMBP's

Too bad, I like the l-shaped connector more too. I don't understand why anyone would want the t-shaped connector, it offers no advantages over the l-shaped connector.
 
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