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4K displays don't have to follow a strict resolution of (3840 pixels × 2160), it simply means resolutions beyond a certain point. I'd say ~3500 pixels. Just like technically iPhone's don't have 720p displays. But they basically do. Apple will likely keep their aspect ratio, but still provide "4K" resolution quality.

The specific models discussed in that article were exactly 3840x2160. I guess Apple could order displays of the exact same type, but cut in different sizes. This would give them a slightly higher resolution thanks to the larger surface area of 16:10 displays. This would constrain the supply even further. I wouldn't hold out any hope for 4K rMBPs in 2013.
 
The specific models discussed in that article were exactly 3840x2160. I guess Apple could order displays of the exact same type, but cut in different sizes. This would give them a slightly higher resolution thanks to the larger surface area of 16:10 displays. This would constrain the supply even further. I wouldn't hold out any hope for 4K rMBPs in 2013.

What about 2014?
 
Ah, yeah I don't think they're gonna do that. Unless there was a butt load of complaints from people about the MagSafe 2 (current). They would have simply made a L-shaped (would have been the same shape) MagSafe 2 connector to begin with if they were going to do that. I'm guessing they changed the shape for market differentiation. They do a lot of subtle marketing things. I personally like the l-shape 100x more, as I like the asthetic, it prevents tearing/fraying a lot more easily, and because my cable goes BACK behind my desk 99% of the time, which means my cable sticks out to the side with the MagSafe 2. Annoying.

But whatever the 2013 Haswell MBA's have is what they'll do with the rMBP this year - just looked it up, it's the same MageSafe 2. Yeah it won't change for the rMBP's

I have little opinion as long as the issues with the old MagSafe cables have been resolved. My t-shaped MagSafe developed a short somewhere, and my roommate's L-shaped just broke the other day (separated at the brick end). Not that I expect much when my lightening cable bulged below the connector. Apple makes cheap-a** cables.
 
My 2010 MBP with 8GB shows:
Free: 1.14 GB
Wired: 1.06 GB
Active: 3.48 GB
Inactive: 2.31 GB

VM size: 254.58 GB
Page ins: 621.6 MB (0 bytes/sec)
Page outs: 0 bytes (0 bytes/sec)
Swap used: 83.8 MB

The above looks good. When I had 4GB, it was not good. 16GB wouldn't do anything for me, based on my usage.

You explained everything quite well, kind sir. So you're doing well with 2.31 inactive. My question is what about the future? When I buy my 15" Haswell I plan on keeping it for about 5 years. How can I be sure that that 2.31 (Or whatever my numbers will be) will still be adequate? The fact that this question even enters my mind tells me that I should just pay the additional $200 and never think about it again. Small price to pay to keep my sanity
 
You explained everything quite well, kind sir. So you're doing well with 2.31 inactive. My question is what about the future? When I buy my 15" Haswell I plan on keeping it for about 5 years. How can I be sure that that 2.31 (Or whatever my numbers will be) will still be adequate? The fact that this question even enters my mind tells me that I should just pay the additional $200 and never think about it again. Small price to pay to keep my sanity

Thank you for the kind words!

Given you are planning to keep your next Mac for five years, then yes, I would recommend you spend the extra $200 for the 16GB configuration.
 
What about 2014?
I have no idea. My post was mainly based on the article provided in this thread. It stated that Sharp currently only has one plant making 15 inch 4K displays, and they're the wrong aspect ratio for Macbooks. I see no reason why it couldn't happen in 2014, but I wouldn't wait until next year to upgrade if you're eager to do it now.

That said, I wonder who's buying the Sharp 4K displays. I have not seen anything announced that goes higher than 3200x1800.
 
I have no idea. My post was mainly based on the article provided in this thread. It stated that Sharp currently only has one plant making 15 inch 4K displays, and they're the wrong aspect ratio for Macbooks. I see no reason why it couldn't happen in 2014, but I wouldn't wait until next year to upgrade if you're eager to do it now.

That said, I wonder who's buying the Sharp 4K displays. I have not seen anything announced that goes higher than 3200x1800.

I'm getting the next rMBP. If there's a significant update in 2014, i.e. IGZO/battery life. I'm getting that one too.
 
iMac is 16:9 there is nothing in the rulebook saying the 15" Retina MacBook Pro couldn't drop 16:10 and go 16:9.

Guess we'll find out next month :)
 
iMac is 16:9 there is nothing in the rulebook saying the 15" Retina MacBook Pro couldn't drop 16:10 and go 16:9.

Guess we'll find out next month :)

I personally wish the 13-inch would have a 1440x900 resolution at it's Best for Retina setting. Could that happen if the 15-inch got a resolution bump?
 
Other than Thunderbolt 2, discussions about ports on the upcoming rmbp have been scarce on this thread. What revision of HDMI will the haswell rmbp include (personally I think it'll have HDMI 1.4 like the upcoming Mac Pro). Will the rmbp even include HDMI? Will there be an increase in USB ports? Will they be updated to USB 3.1 (most likely not)? Will the ports be moved around? Will Apple change the MagSafe 2 connector back to the L-shaped form of it's predecessor? Will Apple move the ports around? Will Apple include more Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple decrease the amount of Thunderbolt ports? Will Apple go back to a dedicated power button separate from the keyboard? Questions like these and discussions about them will make the thread a tiny bit more interesting, in my opinion.

Ok MapleMan, I for one have no use for the Thunderbolt, as of yet that is, so I would like to see 3 USB ports and 1 Thunderbolt port. I'm never gonna attach a monitor to it anyways, so unless they invent a new toy, one TB port for a external drive is enough for me
 
Any specific one you could reference?

This is the best GT 750M benchmark comparison I've found:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M.90245.0.html

It seems to be an average of about 13% faster than the 650M. Which is noticeable, but hardly earth-shattering.

That said, if the alternative iGPU-only Iris Pro 5200 configuration winds up being a regression from the 650M in OpenGL performance, the difference becomes more significant. Then again, the 5200 is allegedly noticeably faster than the 650M with OpenCL apps, so it's hard to tell what the clear winner is.

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/monito...ample_4K_Display_Panels_for_15_6_Laptops.html

Xbitlabs is pretty reputable. Hopefully this rumor is true. 4K IGZO on 15inch MBP, 15 oct cant come soon enough..

Anyways, been reading way too much of this thread, thought I would bring some more good rumors :)

Thanks for the link!

Bummer about the timeline. Looks like IGZO is destined for Broadwell (at the earliest) given that manufacturing isn't set to begin until Feb 2014.

I keep hoping for an unexpected sexy new feature for the Haswell MBP, but it's really not looking promising.
 
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Ok MapleMan, I for one have no use for the Thunderbolt, as of yet that is, so I would like to see 3 USB ports and 1 Thunderbolt port. I'm never gonna attach a monitor to it anyways, so unless they invent a new toy, one TB port for a external drive is enough for me

MapleMan? Well I hope there will be more USB ports, but not at the expense of thunderbolt.
 
Ok MapleMan, I for one have no use for the Thunderbolt, as of yet that is, so I would like to see 3 USB ports and 1 Thunderbolt port. I'm never gonna attach a monitor to it anyways, so unless they invent a new toy, one TB port for a external drive is enough for me

Apple would love it if they could get away with 0 ports on all their products. But that just ain't happening.
 
This is the best GT 750M benchmark comparison I've found:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M.90245.0.html

It seems to be an average of about 13% faster than the 650M. Which is noticeable, but hardly earth-shattering.

That said, if the alternative iGPU-only Iris Pro 5200 configuration winds up being a regression from the 650M in OpenGL performance, the difference becomes more significant. Then again, the 5200 is allegedly noticeably faster than the 650M with OpenCL apps, so it's hard to tell what the clear winner is.

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Thanks for the link!

Bummer about the timeline. Looks like IGZO is destined for Broadwell (at the earliest) given that manufacturing isn't set to begin until Feb 2014.

I keep hoping for an unexpected sexy new feature for the Haswell MBP, but it's really not looking promising.

"The fastest models with GDDR5 may even match the GTX 670M."

Apple overclocked the 650m, wouldn't be surprised to see this as well.
 
"The fastest models with GDDR5 may even match the GTX 670M."

Apple overclocked the 650m, wouldn't be surprised to see this as well.

The 750M over clocked matches the 670M??? That seems absurdly optimistic

Especially considering the 750M requires 35-40 watts while the 670M is more like 65-75
 
"The fastest models with GDDR5 may even match the GTX 670M."

Apple overclocked the 650m, wouldn't be surprised to see this as well.

The whole 700M series has been described as overclocked 600M series GPUs, since they're both based on the same architecture (Kepler).

Just how much overclocking these units handle before turning into tiny laptop ovens remains to be seen.
 
The whole 700M series has been described as overclocked 600M series GPUs, since they're both based on the same architecture (Kepler).

Just how much overclocking these units handle before turning into tiny laptop ovens remains to be seen.

It will be very interesting to see what Apple has done.
 
The troll is strong in this one...:rolleyes:

Thanks for pointing that out. Of course I could have kept my plans to myself.

But I am not joking. I will be really getting the Haswell MBP maxed out for free and using it for portable and hipster gaming (hope this is a notch less offensive)

The facebook comment was just a jab at the many users who underutilize such great hardware.

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The 750M over clocked matches the 670M??? That seems absurdly optimistic

Especially considering the 750M requires 35-40 watts while the 670M is more like 65-75

Actually I found this statement on notebookcheck quite dubious too. Considering that a 750m is just a rebadged and higher clocked 650m.

And that the 670m doesn't seem to come with a GDDR3 model (perhaps a GDDR5 750M is on par with a GDDR3 670m)
 
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