I still disagree on the memory front, I just bought 2x8gb sticks for an old laptop for my wife. it was DDR2 (which was released late 2003) and it was cheap.. as for your comment about the motherboard limit.. I wonder what that would be if we could upgrade the ram.. I actually wasted some money buying 2 8 gig sticks for my old mac mini, only to find it was capped at 6gb.. sucks. I do see your point on mobo limit, but the choices they give us now will be at least 1/3 of what we could have maxed it out to be in the future. oh well, Ive decided just to keep my mbp nice, and sell it every 2 years and upgrade..