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What a great news I have heared. Dell has just unveiled the first laptop equipped with IGZO display. The features are really good. Ok if Apple doesn't unravel new rMBP within the end of this month, I'll run to buy a new Dell laptop
 
Got One

What if I told you that I have a 15" Retina Macbook Pro with a Haswell processor?

I noticed that I have a ridiculous amount of battery life on my new 15" rMBP. Just for fun, I downloaded the Mac version of intel's CPU ID utility. I was certain it would just show up as an Ivy Bridge processor but I figured, why not.

I was stunned when I found the CPU ID utility reported the processor as a Haswell based processor.

Talk about a silent release. This was on a unit I ordered about 10 days ago. There are no other hardware features found on the laptop that are not part of the 15" rMBP released earlier this year. For example, no Thunderbolt 2 ports, graphics are the same, etc...

Is is possible they are just mixing Haswell based processors into existing inventory?
 
This might be a stupid question... but when are the Haswell MBPs coming out?

Probably 15th of october, not confirmed though obviously. if it´s not announced then, you can come back and speculate some more with the other fellas ahahah
 
Dell's new XPS 15 -released today, shipping 10/18- has a lot of nice features:

"a 3200 x 1800 touchscreen display, a full 2.2GHz quad-core Core i7 Haswell processor, game-capable Nvidia GeForce GT 750M graphics, 16GB of RAM, 512GB of solid state storage, a 13-hour battery, and a surprisingly decent array of ports in a 4.4 pound, 18 mm thin package."


I believe the CPU can be upgraded if you BTO (I could be wrong though).

You can see the article here.


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What if I told you that I have a 15" Retina Macbook Pro with a Haswell processor?

I noticed that I have a ridiculous amount of battery life on my new 15" rMBP. Just for fun, I downloaded the Mac version of intel's CPU ID utility. I was certain it would just show up as an Ivy Bridge processor but I figured, why not.

I was stunned when I found the CPU ID utility reported the processor as a Haswell based processor.

Talk about a silent release. This was on a unit I ordered about 10 days ago. There are no other hardware features found on the laptop that are not part of the 15" rMBP released earlier this year. For example, no Thunderbolt 2 ports, graphics are the same, etc...

Is is possible they are just mixing Haswell based processors into existing inventory?


If you would like we believe you, just post some screenshots. I think it is totally impossible
 
What if I told you that I have a 15" Retina Macbook Pro with a Haswell processor?

I noticed that I have a ridiculous amount of battery life on my new 15" rMBP. Just for fun, I downloaded the Mac version of intel's CPU ID utility. I was certain it would just show up as an Ivy Bridge processor but I figured, why not.

I was stunned when I found the CPU ID utility reported the processor as a Haswell based processor.

Talk about a silent release. This was on a unit I ordered about 10 days ago. There are no other hardware features found on the laptop that are not part of the 15" rMBP released earlier this year. For example, no Thunderbolt 2 ports, graphics are the same, etc...

Is is possible they are just mixing Haswell based processors into existing inventory?

Absolutely... here and there.. probably with the same SKUs, specs, totally random.. they don't care about tracking stuff like that.. that's why occasionally if you order a refurbished iPhone 5 you might get a 5S, since its just the insides that are different.
 
All this talk of glued batteries and Dells with IGZO is making me reconsider if the wait for this nearly $2k laptop is worth it. Perhaps it's because my mid-2009 MBP is getting the service battery warning, it's annoying and expensive enough to replace already :( (besides the fact that it burns through SATA cables which I can only assume means new logic board).

So as a non-power user, should I worry about glued batteries and things like that? Until I graduate in May it will be on battery power while I'm on campus and then probably plugged in for the most part at home. Not sure what my life will be like after graduation. I'm planning on going into education, so I doubt I'll be taking it to work with me unless the school I'm working at doesn't provide computers for staff.

Apparently I spend too much time on these forums. I know way too much for an average user ;).
 
Sharp produced a variety of IGZO displays with very high DPI. Apple might take priority over Dell, but they probably won't be prioritised over all the Windows laptop manufacturers who typically use 16:9 displays instead of 16:10. If Apple is willing to use 16:9 displays they could easily have IGZO displays this year. It would be a slight downgrade in screen size, but these displays are otherwise a fairly large upgrade over the rMBP screen even if you ignore power savings. I wouldn't count on it.

I can certainly say that I won't buy an MBP with a 16:9 display, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. 16:9 is an absurd ratio for a laptop display, which is already severely limited for vertical space. I can't think Apple would really do this.

Unfortunately I'm probably wrong and it will happen eventually.
 
I can certainly say that I won't buy an MBP with a 16:9 display, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. 16:9 is an absurd ratio for a laptop display, which is already severely limited for vertical space. I can't think Apple would really do this.

Unfortunately I'm probably wrong and it will happen eventually.

Agreed. Picture a portable DVD player, minus the DVD drive... ;)
 
What if I told you that I have a 15" Retina Macbook Pro with a Haswell processor?

I noticed that I have a ridiculous amount of battery life on my new 15" rMBP. Just for fun, I downloaded the Mac version of intel's CPU ID utility. I was certain it would just show up as an Ivy Bridge processor but I figured, why not.

I was stunned when I found the CPU ID utility reported the processor as a Haswell based processor.

Talk about a silent release. This was on a unit I ordered about 10 days ago. There are no other hardware features found on the laptop that are not part of the 15" rMBP released earlier this year. For example, no Thunderbolt 2 ports, graphics are the same, etc...

Is is possible they are just mixing Haswell based processors into existing inventory?

Aaawwww.... Is the troll getting hungry?
Its ok little boy I'll feed you.


REALLY?
OMG that could totally happen. Please post pictures so we can see.
Do you notice any difference?
Cant wait my self. Maybe ill try ordering one, and hope to get Haswell model just like you.
 
Nope, no big difference other than battery life. But the Haswell rMBP will bring other improvements besides the processor.

I'd say it's worth waiting the few weeks.

Welcome to Macrumors! Hope you'll enjoy your future Mac :cool:

It wouldn't make a noticeable difference on Haswell for you.

Do you want a retina or cMBP? Live is not yet optimized for retina displays, so you won't get any advantages on that (other than it looks GREAT when browsing the web, and it's slimmer).

Thanks for your help guys. I won't be going for the retina. I went into the apple store today and compared models/had a chat etc. I think if the new MBP don't surface by the 15th, I'll be getting a 13" i5 base model and upping the memory to 8GB...
 
I can certainly say that I won't buy an MBP with a 16:9 display, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. 16:9 is an absurd ratio for a laptop display, which is already severely limited for vertical space. I can't think Apple would really do this.

Unfortunately I'm probably wrong and it will happen eventually.

The Dell 3200x1800 has the same amount of vertical pixels as the Retina 2880x1800. You're actually losing horizontal working space by going with the Retina display. It's a downgrade in information shown on the screen in the same way that going from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 is a downgrade. While there is a small size advantage to 16:10 I don't feel that this outweighs the difference in pixels. One of the big reasons for preferring widescreen displays (16:10 or 16:9) to the older 4:3 displays is that you can easily work with multiple applications by having two windows side by side. In my experience limitations of horizontal pixels are more common than lacking vertical working space in this mode. While I would agree that 16:10 is the preferable option for the same number of pixels, I think it's completely hyperbolic to call 16:9 an absurd aspect ratio, especially when it's a higher resolution display.

I will say that I think Apple will stick with 16:10 displays even if that puts them behind in every other way. We've seen this with cMBP 1680x1050 screens falling far short of the now fairly common 16:9 1920x1080 monitors.
 
If you would like we believe you, just post some screenshots. I think it is totally impossible

Screenshots? He can just Photoshop it anyway. just let him believe he has one. Don't burst his bubble

With that being said... I'm hoping they don't lose the dGPU. I'm mainly waiting for it because of a better graphics processor (currently have the 2011 mpb).
 
I see your point but the manufacturing process for an iPad Mini display is not the same as the MBP's

Fair enough. I was thinking of it in terms of supply - if the material is not available to manufacture, you would not have anything for ipad minis or rMBPs.

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All this talk of glued batteries and Dells with IGZO is making me reconsider if the wait for this nearly $2k laptop is worth it. Perhaps it's because my mid-2009 MBP is getting the service battery warning, it's annoying and expensive enough to replace already :( (besides the fact that it burns through SATA cables which I can only assume means new logic board).

So as a non-power user, should I worry about glued batteries and things like that? Until I graduate in May it will be on battery power while I'm on campus and then probably plugged in for the most part at home. Not sure what my life will be like after graduation. I'm planning on going into education, so I doubt I'll be taking it to work with me unless the school I'm working at doesn't provide computers for staff.

Apparently I spend too much time on these forums. I know way too much for an average user ;).

nearly $2,000? More like nearly $4,000 for 15" 2.7 proc with 16Gb ram and 768Gb HD. Damn you, apple. Hurry up and take my money!

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Just imagine how anticlimactic it will all be the day after the release... all this excitement for a machine that looks exactly as what's available today and does practically the same thing only that the batter lasts 1 hr longer.
 
Fair enough. I was thinking of it in terms of supply - if the material is not available to manufacture, you would not have anything for ipad minis or rMBPs.

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nearly $2,000? More like nearly $4,000 for 15" 2.7 proc with 16Gb ram and 768Gb HD. Damn you, apple. Hurry up and take my money!

Nearly $2k for me. 13" i5 8gb ram and 256gb on education discount. The maxed out 15" is complete overkill for my uses, hehe. And I can barely justify the $2k when my 13" base mid-2009 was right around $1200!
 
The Dell 3200x1800 has the same amount of vertical pixels as the Retina 2880x1800. You're actually losing horizontal working space by going with the Retina display. It's a downgrade in information shown on the screen in the same way that going from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 is a downgrade. While there is a small size advantage to 16:10 I don't feel that this outweighs the difference in pixels. One of the big reasons for preferring widescreen displays (16:10 or 16:9) to the older 4:3 displays is that you can easily work with multiple applications by having two windows side by side. In my experience limitations of horizontal pixels are more common than lacking vertical working space in this mode. While I would agree that 16:10 is the preferable option for the same number of pixels, I think it's completely hyperbolic to call 16:9 an absurd aspect ratio, especially when it's a higher resolution display.

I will say that I think Apple will stick with 16:10 displays even if that puts them behind in every other way. We've seen this with cMBP 1680x1050 screens falling far short of the now fairly common 16:9 1920x1080 monitors.

You're losing physical vertical screen space, resolution is a different issue. You're getting a long narrow screen. Apple won't be making these devices any larger (goes against everything they're doing right now) so the only way you can go to 16:9 is make the screen physically smaller vertically.

It limits your working capacity when you're working in a single window, something that's far more common than working in two at once. Obviously if you mostly work in two windows you'd have a different perspective.

I've used 16:9 laptops before and I didn't care for it. Tons of wasted horizontal space and a generally very awkward hotdog-like form factor for the machine. I do a good bit of programming so I have something of a bias (prefer more vertical physical work area, rarely have a need for side-by-side work), but I also feel like the long narrow form factor is a negative point regardless of usage.
 
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Nearly $2k for me. 13" i5 8gb ram and 256gb on education discount. The maxed out 15" is complete overkill for my uses, hehe. And I can barely justify the $2k when my 13" base mid-2009 was right around $1200!

I hear you...my current laptop did not even cost $2k and here I am begging Apple to take my money. Sad...
Just hope the ipad comes out soon - dying to upgrade my 16GB ipad 2.
 
I can certainly say that I won't buy an MBP with a 16:9 display, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. 16:9 is an absurd ratio for a laptop display, which is already severely limited for vertical space. I can't think Apple would really do this.

Unfortunately I'm probably wrong and it will happen eventually.

We had exactly the same discussion before the first release of the unibody MBPs. Many people were convinced that they would be 16:9. Fortunately, common sense prevailed as it will do so again.
 
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