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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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Livewings said:
I just want the price to drop so I can afford an iPad too. :cool:

Cheers,
Ayam Penyet (Legendary Realist)

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Unlikely.
HD4600 is out of the equation.
Wouldn't make sense. I'm out.

I'm willing to put my money on Iris Pro on all models.
We might even see the first the Iris Pro combined with a dGPU in more expensive models.

4750HQ - $1799
4750HQ + GT/GTX Class GPU - $2199
4850HQ + GT/GTX Class GPU + 512GB SSD + 16GB RAM - $2799
4950HQ available in custom configuration.
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Whats the best for CAD?
Iris 5200 or gt750
 
Rick-ITA said:
I guess invitations will be out today for sure, isn't it?
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Invitations could go out, but that does not mean the product we're all awaiting will be released.

I have ZERO faith in all these reports - even the French one that claims rMBP will be released on 10/24.

yea, yea, trolls stay trollin'!
 
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Other than the brown box, if I presented you with two machines—one new and one refurb—and prohibited you from checking out their serial numbers, you would not be able to tell in any way, manner, shape, or form which was which.

As for the price, $1599 for a refurb 2.3 15" versus $2199 for a new 2.4 15" amounts to a 37.5% premium for new and a virtually imperceptible tick in processor performance. How you see that price as not "low" is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

I completely disagree with the statement you're making here regarding their refurbished products.

Saying refurbish = new is complete non-sense and comes contradicting the term 'refurbished' itself in the first place.

Apple's quality controls are going down. Five replacement iPhone 5 were given to me at the Genius Bar for a faulty power button. (Straight out of the box upon release last year) I had no choice but to wait and settle that upon returning to Los Angeles 2 months later as I flew overseas immediately after my purchase.

Their 'replacement units' stock had been contaminated by 'refurbished' models. It ranged from scratches on the edges to a loose screen, a faulty speaker to a cluster of dead pixels -- probably no less than 30 gathered on the retina screen. Mind you, it's not even like I was offered a discount for the ordeal.

A friend bought a refurbished iMac 3 months ago - claiming this was the deal of the year and the unit would be 'new'. Half of the front panel was dead and you could clearly see visible wear on the keys.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about Apple. Sometimes even too much for my liking. I would never for the life of me buy anything other than what I've had on my desk for the last 15 years.

Nonetheless I'm no longer blind. The quality of their products, customer service and staff knowledge is going downhill at an incredible pace.

The price difference you're describing here is not what most deals on their refurbished section are. The slight price decrease for a computer that's been in essence used by someone else -- making it pre-owned, is certainly not something I'd ever consider. When I buy a Mac, it comes in a box that isn't brown, it hasn't been used by anyone else other than me, it hasn't been sent back to a facility that took it part, fixed God knows what that might have gone wrong to get a cheap 10% discount.

I'd understand if they were to sell them half priced but it isn't the case. Until then, I'll keep paying full price and I won't ever say that refurbished is 'new' because here again, it isn't.
 
Livewings said:
HD 4600 doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense to have a worse integrated iGPU in the more expensive models. It makes sense on the iMac because it doesn't utilize the iGPU in the expensive models having no battery so it can suck up all the juice it needs.

Mark my words. It's either Iris Pro on all models or Iris Pro + dGPU on more expensive models. There's a reason the MacBook will be on the keynote unlike the iMac and this could be one of the many prominent reasons.
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Sense, you make none.

750m is just a small upgrade from Iris pro.
And the Iris Pro cpus are very expensive. To include both would:
1: Be very stupid because the cost would be way to high. Either Apples margins would be way less or the cost of the rMBP would go up by ALOT.
2: There is a reason no other manufacturers use both Iris Pro and a dGPU.
And its the same reason Apple did the same for the iMacs. Even on the most expensive models you cant even choose Iris pro and a dGPU.
3: Its actually better to get one of the 4600 cpus with a dGPU. Cos the 4600 cpus have a higher clock speed. So it would actually be a downgrade in performance to use a Iris Pro CPU.

It would be like having a car with a 300hk motor. And then have a second motor with 325hk that cant work in tandem with the first motor.
In other words it would make no sense and just cost a lot more to produce.
 
Wuiffi said:
I bet Iris Pro in the base configuration, but HD 4600 + dGPU in all other. Iris Pro + dGPU is way too expensive!
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Won't happen.

It's quite sure the Iris Pro 5200.

Why?

1. Power consumption: e.g. -25% during webbrowsing
2. Performance: Iris Pro 5200 >= GT650 (current version)
3. Apple's Strategy: Fits in the overall strategy and guarentees higher margins than a dGPU.
4. The past: Also the Macbook Pros (2010) once had a dGPU, but they got replaced by Intel's 3000, which made the 2011 model roughly 10% weaker in graphics than the 2010 model.

Still, I can imagine that there will be a 750 option, if we won't see a redesign. (which I expect)
 
I really wish people would stop saying something will happen, when it's not a certainty.

speculation
Web definitions
guess: a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence.
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Aside from being boring, you are making me burn precious calories scrolling past your posts.
 
I see on this thread huge mountains of MBP Haswell haters!!!!

I think they'll be all these people who bought the current MBP and they're afraid of having something OLD !!!! LOLLLLL!!!

Well....I'll be laughing in just a few days posting so much when Haswell MBP will be out!
 
mrmanucadiz said:
I see on this thread huge mountains of MBP Haswell haters!!!!

I think they'll be all these people who bought the current MBP and they're afraid of having something OLD !!!! LOLLLLL!!!

Well....I'll be laughing in just a few days posting so much when Haswell MBP will be out!
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Please leave.
 
endote said:
I really wish people would stop saying something will happen, when it's not a certainty.



Aside from being boring, you are making me burn precious calories scrolling past your posts.
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"Klugscheisser" is the fitting German expression for your post.

But okay, battle accepted:

"Certainty is perfect knowledge that has total security from error, or the mental state of being without doubt." (Wikipedia") :D

Thus everything is fine.
 
mrmanucadiz said:
I see on this thread huge mountains of MBP Haswell haters!!!!

I think they'll be all these people who bought the current MBP and they're afraid of having something OLD !!!! LOLLLLL!!!

Well....I'll be laughing in just a few days posting so much when Haswell MBP will be out!
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If someone has the time, it would totally be worth going through the posts and bringing up the people swearing the MacBook Pro wouldn't come out this year so we can laugh at their trolly faces.
 
I think too it will be a redesign or the addition of some notable feature (fingerprint sensor?) as otherwise we would have had a 'quiet' update as we had last week for the iMAC.
 
Stef4n said:
Won't happen.

It's quite sure the Iris Pro 5200.

Why?

1. Power consumption: e.g. -25% during webbrowsing
2. Performance: Iris Pro 5200 >= GT650 (current version)
3. Apple's Strategy: Fits in the overall strategy and guarentees higher margins than a dGPU.
4. The past: Also the Macbook Pros (2010) once had a dGPU, but they got replaced by Intel's 3000, which made the 2011 model roughly 10% weaker in graphics than the 2010 model.

Still, I can imagine that there will be a 750 option, if we won't see a redesign. (which I expect)
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1. where is that data from? cause I think the power consumption (light usage for battery life) of iris is about the same as hd 4600 + deactivated dGPU
2. nope. only in a few categories. Look at the iMac lineup. Iris Pro is "good enough" for GT640m but not Gt 650m/750m or anything higher
3. Yes that's true, BUT Iris Pro is expensive too ;)
4. that's totally wrong. MBP went from 2010 integrated+ GT 320/330m to Intel 3000 AND AMD dGPU!
- You are talking about the Mac Minis where they did what you stated. Mac Mini is NOT a Pro device ;)
 
At least there should be some significative improvement since they decided to avoid a silent update.
May it be simply battery (9-10 hours instead of 7) and or TB2. Plus of course everything else we already seen in MBA.
I do not expect something more (for sure no IGZO or other sci-fi stuff like that).
 
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