Disagree. 1440x900 should pretty much be standard in a 13-inch screen. Any larger would definitely be overkill.
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Disagree. 1440x900 should pretty much be standard in a 13-inch screen. Any larger would definitely be overkill.
Not a huge fan of the essentially "artificial" scaling. Just like for the 15", it's "true" that you can use 1080p resolution scaling (for screen real estate, that is) but it doesn't look as sharp as a native 1080p display. Just because it has more pixels doesn't mean it's automatically sharper. Some other guy went over this before, and it's what I had been thinking to begin with.
Either way, no matter what the resolution (unless I really can't stand it) I'd be using the "best" looking resolution possible.
With the new Retina MBA said to have a resolution of 2304 x 1440 I'm wondering what the scaling of that resolution would be.
Granted, it's been a while since I've had Dells but tell me... do they still issue a can of WD-40 for the creaky hinges? Yes, the specs look nice but they always do.
I'm far from being an Apple fanboy and couldn't care less about OSX vs. Windows because I can get both to do what I need. But casual tinkering with all the PC stuff at the local Best Buy tells me these people have yet to really "get it" when it comes to build quality. Ironically, the Surface Pro is the only thing that comes close IMO but that's another animal altogether.
It's going to take a major "wow factor" to get me out of Apple's grasp and so far I haven't seen it. I'll gladly fork over the extra $500-$700 just to keep getting the same build quality. Four MacBooks in the family now ranging from 2007-2012 and all look and function like new. My annual Dell, HP, Toshiba, Acer replacements were killing me before this.
And to keep this on-topic: I hear the Haswell chips will be coming in 4 colors.
I think the main thing we need to fear from Dell relative to Apple is a bad touchpad. The screen also looks more glossy, but that could just be the circumstances. It's not like either screen is matte. The keyboards on the new XPS series have received good reviews, some preferring it slightly to those on thin Macbooks, others have a slight preference the other way. The machine itself is made from machined aluminum and carbon fiber. It should be very well built. Dell laptops I've owned in the past felt like they were made from cheap plastics because they were made from cheap plastics. Aesthetics and "feel" are ultimately personal. I kind of prefer the XPS 15 look because of how it hides the thickness of the base, but I can't say for sure without seeing one in person. I also think that the feet of the XPS 15 look like they provide more friction than those on the Macbook, and they look like they are less likely to fall off. Cooling should be similar to the rMBP, maybe slightly better due to larger vents. The XPS 15 with a 9-cell battery is also slightly larger and heavier than the rMBP.
The Surface Pro 2 look very neat, especially now that it has really good battery life. Sadly, I also think that a 10" display would be too small. Now that I'm no longer in college I don't really need the stylus either. I would have loved to have that for writing equations down electronically. I think that makes me want it more than I actually need it.
Try 1024x640. Yes, I need a new eye prescription.
And for what it's worth... I've been driving a very very long time without a single accident. (Although I've caused quite a few
).Yes! This is the downfall of PC laptops in my experience. That said, Synaptics has made lots of improvements. Not sure what the XPS is using though. Also, MS actually licenses some of Apple's trackpad patents from them. One couldn't tell though.
I set one up for a work colleague so had a chance to play with it for a few days (Pro version 1). I really wanted to like it but the 10" screen was THE deal breaker. It was definitely a better tablet in vertical position but way too heavy.
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I think a 765 is only 55-60w ish, 760 50-55w. 750-755 should be a 45w part. the 650m in the current model is heavily overclocked and probably draws a good 50+. 765 is still realistic imo, it's just a higher binned 760. the 770/775 is a different chip with much higher core count at 75w.
Granted, it's been a while since I've had Dells but tell me... do they still issue a can of WD-40 for the creaky hinges? Yes, the specs look nice but they always do.
I'm far from being an Apple fanboy and couldn't care less about OSX vs. Windows because I can get both to do what I need. But casual tinkering with all the PC stuff at the local Best Buy tells me these people have yet to really "get it" when it comes to build quality. Ironically, the Surface Pro is the only thing that comes close IMO but that's another animal altogether.
It's going to take a major "wow factor" to get me out of Apple's grasp and so far I haven't seen it. I'll gladly fork over the extra $500-$700 just to keep getting the same build quality. Four MacBooks in the family now ranging from 2007-2012 and all look and function like new. My annual Dell, HP, Toshiba, Acer replacements were killing me before this.
And to keep this on-topic: I hear the Haswell chips will be coming in 4 colors.
I want the gold one, but I hear it will be hard to come by immediately at launch.
Notebookcheck says, that the 765m has a Power Consumption of 60-65 Watt, other sites state, that it's up to 75W. Either way, imo even 60W are too much for the 15" rMBP to handle (combined with the 47W CPU)
I think 760-765 i think is realistic, the rMBP 650 is essentially a 660 with probably the same power draw. the 670 part is a 75watt part. and the 660 is believe is a 60-65watt part. a 750/755 is pretty weak, not particularly worth it over the iris pro 5200. the 760 has double the cores as the 750.
"What to expect from Apple's October 22th iPad event" on The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/18/4852280/apple-ipad-5-event-what-to-expect
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/18/4852280/apple-ipad-5-event-what-to-expect
I've been a dell owner for over 10 years and just went to check out the new xps 15. I know their site has been this way for some time, but this site is just TERRIBLE. It used to be so easy to shop and configure items, but to anymore. I can not believe they've not done something about it.
Wonder how it passed usability testing.
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Ship date is November 11 - 3 weeks wait? I hope the MacBooks do not have that type of delay.
interesting they say the non-retina macbook pros will be updated with new processors.. if so thats what im getting otherwise macbook air here we come. probably cant afford retina unless it comes down in price by at least $100.
Interesting to see how much attention the possible MBP refresh now gets on all the new sites. But every news article is based on speculation, no facts or leaks.
So: interesting link, but no new info.
I have to agree. It's totally crap, and those who made it should be punished.. HARD..
Dell has had the BEST product configurator (in my opinion) for many years. But this is just crap.
The whole site is sluggish, and even though I work with websites as a part of my job, I find it difficult to navigate around the site. I'm using the Danish version, but some sentences are in Swedish too
Oh well.... Good I don't have to buy my coming laptop from Dell
Apple's configurator and store is way better Yup, the site is very hard to navigate. It's much worse than Apple's, for instance.
The ship date might just be conservative. We'll have to wait and see when they actually arrive. Dell has been experiencing supply delays in their Haswell M4800, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're having problems getting enough displays and processors for XPS 15 as well. That would explain both the limited country launch, and the huge buffer in their shipping estimates. I suspect Apple would rather delay their actual launch than have delayed shipping like this, though the iPhone 5S launch might suggest otherwise.
Lemme clear up some fog regarding this. According to techpowerup (they don't "guess" as much as Notebookcheck.com seems to) the 650M is 45W TDP, and the 660M 50W. That being said, the 760M is not equivalent to the 660M. The 660M is the exact same chip and setup as the 650M but overclocked. This years version of the 660M is the 755M. The 750M has a TDP of 50W, and the 755M has a TDP of ~50W (maybe 52W, but it's only overclocked slightly).
Directly following those chips is the 760M which is a completely different chip. The 650M, 660M, 750M, and 755M (refreshed chips for 2013) are all essentially the same chip and set up, slightly different memory clocks, but that's it. The 760M is a more significant jump in performance of about 20-35% in some games frame-rates, whereas the 750M/755M would only be a bump of maybe ~10-15% from the 650/660M. The TDP of the 760M is 55W (according to techpowerup). The 765M that the razer has is a whopping 75W though, and has a completely different bus interface so it is likely way out of the question for the rMBP. The 765M would be a massive improvement in graphics, seeing an increase of about 40-60%.
My concern with the 760M not being a viable option is because obviously TDP isn't the only determinant of whether a laptop can "handle" the dispersion of heat from a chip, and the 750M/755M have 1300 million transistors, while the 760M (being a completely different chip) has 2540 million. I think more transistors means more heat.
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Also, the 770M is a 765M with faster, and more memory as well as a modified clock speed. It is also ~75W like the 765M.
Then after that is the massive 780M chip which you see in the brick computers gamers use with 1-2 hours battery life, and it has ~100-125W TDP
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And have you seen the "Dell Care" warranty prices covering basically any form of accidental damage ? The biggest one which covers the laptop for 4 years (!!) is 199$. 3 year is 169 etc.
Besides, you can get the full specked laptop for 1899$. Yes you lose the 512SSD in favour of a 1TB harddrive with 32 cache and you have 30% less battery (or basically the normal battery), but all the other bells and whistles are there.
I say great job for the 2013 edition.
Like to see a link for that. I find the 1680x1050 rMBP display option looks noticeably sharper than the cMPB 15" with the native 1680x1050 display; and also that the 1920x1200 rMBP option is sharper than the cMBP 17" 1920x1200 display.
According to nvidia specs, 760/765 is the same chip. 765 has 29% higher clock, both are 128bit bus. 770 is entirely different with 960 cores 192bit bus vs 768 cores128bit. 775 is like 13xx cores 256 bit. With 780 at 15xx cores and higher clock 256bit. I highly doubt the 765 is 75watt. 60watt IMO is more accurate.
And with the artificial scaling, I've read that it consumes power/battery life. Nothing major, but I've seen 30 minutes or so knocked off in reviews.
When I get mine, I'll just run it at the Best for Retina setting. But there really should be 1440x900 as native come next year.
The new Dell XPS 15 looks sooo much better than the previous XPS 15. The doing away with the disc drive really helped shave off those calories.
Ship date of mid-November or not, its actually shipping. Now Apple just needs to get their surprises together and wow us on Tuesday before Apple fans turn to Dell for their high end sleek machines. If Dell, who had so many more back to school sales than Apple can support the IGZO display... clearly supply is not an issue. Apple... you have a shot Tuesday to get your eggs in order, don't ruin it.
Ship date of mid-November or not, its actually shipping. Now Apple just needs to get their surprises together and wow us on Tuesday before Apple fans turn to Dell for their high end sleek machines. If Dell, who had so many more back to school sales than Apple can support the IGZO display... clearly supply is not an issue. Apple... you have a shot Tuesday to get your eggs in order, don't ruin it.
And then people will run back to Apple as soon as they discover the problems with their Dell laptop.
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