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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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bill-p said:
Yeah, but most people wouldn't even bother to check the Refurbished section.

And it's quite hard to find now, because it's at the bottom of the Apple Store website... with tiny texts...
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Maybe they don't care much about the specs, but they definitely would find a way to save a few bucks if they could. They will locate those tiny texts...
 
I'm not an expert here, but weren't people complaining about sluggishness in certain areas on the current gen rMBP? And Apple's answer to that is to take the dedicated graphics card out and replace it with the Iris? Logic dictates that they will attempt to fix the issue, not make it worse. A dedicated chip in the rMBP has to happen.

But like I said, no expert here.

Also, I've been kind of waiting for the rMBP. I don't need the retina display, but at the same time the cMBP is not usable for me at stock config and I would need to upgrade it anyway. So essentially after upgrades and stuff both cMBP and rMBP come out to be the same price... and I'm totally confused on what to buy. I may just get buy a desktop and an MBA if the graphics performance doesn't increase in the rMBP and the cMBP doesn't get a refresh.
 
as much as i wanted to believe, it matches exactly what pikeralpha posted weeks ago.
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Mac-3Cxxxx is the 15" rMBP.

so far there isn't any indication of dGPU, but hopefully he is wrong =/

this is another benchmark for HD5200.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-5200.90965.0.html

anand reviews of GT650M seems to be wildly exaggerated (read: biased), the HD5200 performance doesn't even match GT650M let alone GT750.

personally i'm leaning towards the 2012 rMBP if apple really decide not to use any dGPU.
 
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DJTaurus said:
But those who dont care about dGPU they should wait the second gen and not purchase current gen with intel HD4000!
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its a pro machine, at least give it a performance equivalent to a midstream machine.
not a ****-ty low-end graphics performance on a machine with a high-end price tag.
 
I just hope this was a test machine and that Apple comes to its senses and puts the dGPU. This will NOT be the pro machine that it is now if they don't put the dGPU in.

Intel has come pretty far from the integrated graphics cards it used to put out just two years ago, but it still has a long way to go to completely replace dGPUs. Hope Apple realizes this too. 🙁

And what's more the 5200 has to power a LOT of pixels in the rMBP. Does Apple really think they can get away with not putting the dGPU in?
 
Watabou said:
I just hope this was a test machine and that Apple comes to its senses and puts the dGPU. This will NOT be the pro machine that it is now if they don't put the dGPU in.

Intel has come pretty far from the integrated graphics cards it used to put out just two years ago, but it still has a long way to go to completely replace dGPUs. Hope Apple realizes this too. 🙁

And what's more the 5200 has to power a LOT of pixels in the rMBP. Does Apple really think they can get away with not putting the dGPU in?
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They think so with the 13". Not such a difference as far as pixel count goes. Beside that, they strip it of the quad core. And yes, they call that machine a "PRO" too. So what's up with that?
 
They could just as likely release the 5200 in the 15" cMBP no? Assuming its not getting dropped as rumored, maybe only the retina 15 gets the dGPU and the non-retina no longer will.
Perhaps that's what we are looking at here?
 
Well by "pro" I meant that it's the laptop that a professional might buy, not Apple's definition. Anyone who does serious video-editing, 3d renderings, gaming etc., is going to most likely choose the 15" MBP. Dropping the dGPU therefore seems pretty stupid to me.

But Apple might just put the 5200 in the cMBP and then drop the price like I said earlier in the thread. So maybe we're looking at the high-end cMBP here and not the rMBP which would make the most sense to me.
 
I'm really confused in buying a mac. I will be attending University in September so I will need a macbook. The problem is I don't know if I can wait a month without a laptop. Another thing is that I could get the MBA but I know for sure I will want the retina display. Can anyone please give me any suggestions on what I should do. Buy the current macbook pro retina 13 inch or wait for the haswell update. This is going to be my first mac.
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sorry if this is the wrong thread, this is my first post.
 
minhas95 said:
I'm really confused in buying a mac. I will be attending University in September so I will need a macbook. The problem is I don't know if I can wait a month without a laptop. Another thing is that I could get the MBA but I know for sure I will want the retina display. Can anyone please give me any suggestions on what I should do. Buy the current macbook pro retina 13 inch or wait for the haswell update. This is going to be my first mac.
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sorry if this is the wrong thread, this is my first post.
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So you need it for September then wait and if the new one isn't out before then decide then if to buy current gen
 
fejker said:
They think so with the 13". Not such a difference as far as pixel count goes. Beside that, they strip it of the quad core. And yes, they call that machine a "PRO" too. So what's up with that?
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As has been mentioned here many times "Pro" is a meaningless marketing term. Apple used to have a MacBook. One better than the MacBook was the MacBook Pro. Now it's the Air and the Pro. Yet actual professionals, people who make money primarily using their computers, buy and use whatever they need be it an Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, or mini.
 
I'm still not convinced the tested 4950HQ would be the high end rmbp. My guess would be two main models: the low end being the 4950HQ at 2.4 6mb cache w/ iris pro and the high end the 4900MQ 2.8 8mb cache and 4600 + 760m.

The first thing people will probably say is "well they are the same price." I don't think anyone here can accurately speak for the pricing that apple recieves.
 
Hey, for those of you who cannot live without dGPU or claim that you won't buy it unless apple put dGPU in it.

How about buy a crazily fast thunderbolt external graphic card like the way Mac Pro can do. Would that help?
 
Apple could probably use the HQs for the base models, and the MQs + 760 for the top models, but for some reason I'm inclined to think that they won't.
 
jxie0755 said:
Hey, for those of you who cannot live without dGPU or claim that you won't buy it unless apple put dGPU in it.

How about buy a crazily fast thunderbolt external graphic card like the way Mac Pro can do. Would that help?
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No if Apple don't include a dGPU in the Haswell rMBP I will just get a Ivy Bridge model. I ain't paying over £2000 for a laptop that has only iGPU.
 
According to SemiAccurate and 2 other sources, there will be only Iris Pro inside. I would like to believe we can get nVidia 760GT version, but seems like it's not going to happen.
 
So, lets go back to Mavericks launch.

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features that intrigues me is : GPU matrix multiplier


i'm not a CS expert, but....
what i found out from the GPU matrix multiplication is that it is exclusive to CUDA (NVIDIA), though i'm not sure if Intel graphics does incorporate that too.

I don't think apple would incorporate a technology in Mavericks only to support their older models? 🙄

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Zodiac.mj said:
According to SemiAccurate and 2 other sources, there will be only Iris Pro inside. I would like to believe we can get nVidia 760GT version, but seems like it's not going to happen.
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i call it a bull. theres absolutely no way this piece of information is only available to selected parties.
besides, semi is not a news website dedicated to apple rumors unlike 9to5mac or macrumors.
 
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