It is not weird, as pointed out on the previous page and all over this forum. Macs rarely leak more than a few days in advance because they aren't made at the scale of iPhones.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
- Thread starter adildacoolset
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
- Status
It is not weird, as pointed out on the previous page and all over this forum. Macs rarely leak more than a few days in advance because they aren't made at the scale of iPhones.
How can I live without this thread...?
Like we know. I can tell you though that my insider sources informed me that iPad Pro is getting upgraded soon to iPad Pro Pro.
That's true, every 6 months from release date they should drop the prices of the systems $50-100 based on the actual cost to manufacture the machine...
I would no longer be concerned about whether or not they release new Pro's. It's been so long that whether it's October or next year is now irrelevant. What's more important is that "when" Apple releases the new lineup, that they haven't botched it by offering under powered and out dated technology in a newly designed shell.
That's true, but as far as the price you could think of it from another angle:
They could have made say 75% of all the 2015 models that will ever be made in the first 6 months, then like in the next 15 months 1% per month, so in sense if you buy a 2015 now, you are just getting a machine that is lying around "waiting for an owner who will appreciate every feature it has to offer" if they don't get sold they would just go back to Apple (for employees) or the third parties like MacMall for slashed/reduced price offerings, if extraneous excess is there. Once again a factor where Apple doesn't really care.
Because think of the 2016, they are going to sell like crazy the first 9 months and maybe up to next 2017 X-mas. after that a new thread will be alive in here called "waiting for the newest/latest MacBook pro" and the cycle will repeat, and Apple won't be at the factories cranking out models like gangbusters, and then once again you'll have models that if some "informed users" find they have features that they would like they maybe will buy them off the shelf one at a time while they just lie around, not in a fury.
The only thing here is how long are they going to drag things out from now to the foreseeable, 2 years is just right, 3 year ugh...
So true tho, and I was going to say that if they 2016 was released and was sitting there at say $1999, next to the $1999 2015 model, I would change my story totally and agree, get the 2016 by all means, they are sitting right there, and the difference is clear, barring above #4.
But if the new 2016 model did come out and was sitting there you would probably have options like 2016 for $1999, and 2015 for $1699 on some retailer website (Black Friday even coming), and then "The Question of which to buy would raise it's ugly head again"
PEACE
Last edited:
To add on to that, if there was a coordinated effort to post the Buyer's guide in as many apple stores as possible on the same day, in my view the aim would be to annoy apple. If it helped educate someone, that would be a bonus.
You're probably right on this; I've had to contest a warranty claim because the "Purchase Date" on Apple's end was several months earlier than when I actually bought it from an authorized retailer. It wasn't a hassle, but it suggests they do produce many units in the beginning.
Last time I checked I could get £339 knocked off a MacBook Pro, not bad at all basically covers the CPU upgrade
Have you had 4 pro-prototypes slide across your desk, Serban?
I think no matter how you spin it, buying any of the 2015 or 2014 Pros at any time was an exercise in outdated tech. If there's even a conversation to be had arguing why a 2016 MBP is a good buy right now regardless of your circumstance then whoever is making that point doesn't really know where hardware is at and what the costs are. They're solely looking at their own situation and it's difficult to have a meaningful conversation with that mentality. Apples laptop lineup is outdated and over priced. At this point, especially in this thread, everyone should get that by now.
The other way to look at it, is the 2015 was the pinnacle of the Retine MacBook Pro line. It was refined, troubleshooted and perfected to its final form. Yes, a Broadwell processor suitable for the 2015 model was just a month or two away, but at that moment it was the best Apple could create.
In the past, Apple has release one final version of its MacBook Pro to coincide with a redesign. I believe Apple will release FOUR MacBook Pro versions in October. A 13 and 15 inch Retina MacBook Pro (rMBP) with Skylake 6770, and a 13 and 15 inch Dynamic/OLED/Usb-C/whatever MacBook Pro (dMBP).
And the cheaper rMBP with Skylake will be a major temptation for many people here. Existing design, perfected: legacy ports intact, the old keyboard untouched and an old but well-loved form factor all with Skylake speed.
But the practical difference for most use cases between Haswell and Skylake H-Series processors isn't THAT big. Certainly not big enough to warrant all this moaning about how outdated they are.
I read that as your wife died in 2010 and you're pissed that you have to use her Air. I was like your cold man, real cold.
Another possible scenario is that only the 13" is ready with the redesign, and the new 15" will be the current design with Skylake.
I don't think it'll happens, but it'd be perfect, I'd love to see that "cheaper" new skylake.
Everything about this endless wait would have sense.
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...n-graphics-for-revolutionary-new-mac-products
C'mon!! New MacBooks not released yet, and we have a rumor for the far future...
C'mon!! New MacBooks not released yet, and we have a rumor for the far future...
As I'm reading a lot of users (like me) still using old Macs, stuff of 6/7 years ago, I wonder what will happen to us in the next future.
You know, after we will able to buy and use our desired Skylake MacBook Pro, we'll take full advantage (citation needed) of it for at least another 6 years.
So I am imagining us, in the future, again on a similar thread.
October 2022, "Waiting for Cheetah-Lake MBP" or "Waiting for AMD Z-APU iPad Pro Pro Pro Plus".
Collecting billions of visits.
Dozens of thousands of pages.
A random Serban giving us insides from three different prototypes.
Discussion about the CPUs.
Which CPU will be the most suitable, and when will it be ready for the MBP/iPadPPPP
And we.
Getting more and more angry.
Disappointed.
Always waiting, always complaining.
"If only Tim was here! Tim wouldn't permitted it!"
"What is Apple waiting for?!"
"My old 2016 Skylake MBP can't last anymore!"
"Geez guys, I'm using the ancient 2015 Haswell!"
"I feel you guys, I'm using the old Kaby Lake MBP, it's not enough powerful anymore!"
And of course me getting occasionally drunk and stoned.
And so on and on and on...
It's going to be funny, isn't it?
You know, after we will able to buy and use our desired Skylake MacBook Pro, we'll take full advantage (citation needed) of it for at least another 6 years.
So I am imagining us, in the future, again on a similar thread.
October 2022, "Waiting for Cheetah-Lake MBP" or "Waiting for AMD Z-APU iPad Pro Pro Pro Plus".
Collecting billions of visits.
Dozens of thousands of pages.
A random Serban giving us insides from three different prototypes.
Discussion about the CPUs.
Which CPU will be the most suitable, and when will it be ready for the MBP/iPadPPPP
And we.
Getting more and more angry.
Disappointed.
Always waiting, always complaining.
"If only Tim was here! Tim wouldn't permitted it!"
"What is Apple waiting for?!"
"My old 2016 Skylake MBP can't last anymore!"
"Geez guys, I'm using the ancient 2015 Haswell!"
"I feel you guys, I'm using the old Kaby Lake MBP, it's not enough powerful anymore!"
And of course me getting occasionally drunk and stoned.
And so on and on and on...
It's going to be funny, isn't it?
No need to wonder, Apple will stop making Macs.
Carriers have shown that they are willing to give away iPhones (after trading in the old ones) to keep customers tied down. iPhone revenue will be 60%, eventually 95% of Apple revenue. Cook will retire, and put Angela Ahrendts as CEO. Ahrendts, citing that Apple is now a fashion company, will close down retail Apple stores and sell the iPhone and Apple Watch exclusively at Nordstrom's. In an epic power struggle, Federighi agrees to devote all Software Engineering resources to iOS but convinces the board to spin off macOS to a newly created corp with no ties to Apple. The core OS team meet with HP to develop the expandable new xMac, but make macOS generally available.
The more I was reading your post, the more I was having a vision of a dystopian world...
I know it's all speculations but I am a bit scared of orders getting delayed very quickly if you don't order right after the release, at least for basic models.
I was convinced of getting the basic 13" but now I am thinking more and more of getting the maxed out 15", after spending the last 5 years on a 13" I realized I barely ever use my laptops because I hate the small screen. And if I spend that much money for the 15", might as well get the one with a dGPU that can actually do stuff.
I always hear Polaris GPU, but that seems pretty vague, what are the possibilities? RX460 only ? Sadly seems the 1060 is not possibility but I wanted to look at these Polaris mobile benchmarks to kinda know what to expect
I was convinced of getting the basic 13" but now I am thinking more and more of getting the maxed out 15", after spending the last 5 years on a 13" I realized I barely ever use my laptops because I hate the small screen. And if I spend that much money for the 15", might as well get the one with a dGPU that can actually do stuff.
I always hear Polaris GPU, but that seems pretty vague, what are the possibilities? RX460 only ? Sadly seems the 1060 is not possibility but I wanted to look at these Polaris mobile benchmarks to kinda know what to expect
Last edited:
I think it'd be weird to release two new computers but only one redesign. If the 15" redesign isn't ready they just wouldn't release it.
- Status