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Maybe because the MBP will look completely different but the design of MB and MBA remain as they are today.

Good point, although not a redesign of the Macbook Air seems like a bad idea. With those big bezels and bigger formfactor, I can't image why someone wouldn't just buy the rMB if they need a portable laptop. Although the rMB is pretty expensive. In my opinion Apple should lower the rMB price and get rid of the MBA.
 
Serban sent me this:

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Weird. They added the Sierra wallpaper to the cMBP, but the rMBPs still have flowers. All have Sierra on the buy page.

Can't wait to pick up my cMBP with Sierra!!

I will be shocked if Apple doesn't kill the cMBP with the next refresh. Let the 5400 rpm HD die, Apple. Or maybe this means it'll get yet another update, for those who want expandability and a crappy screen.
 
Actually wondered the same thing. Where would they put the esc key if it's not simulated on the oled bar?

I am thinking, like I said a couple times sorry if you read it, FN+1= F1, FN+2=F2, etc, and they might go FN+`=esc

Oh here is a dongle I found for some of you who have TB1/2 devices...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400713&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Thunderbolt+Cables+&+Adapters-_-N82E16812400713&gclid=CJCe5PuJtc8CFYVffgodkcAEKQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'll really want some verification that the Flash drive can be upgraded and aren't soldered on before ordering. That would be a deal-breaker.

This is exactly what I was going to mention today, again!
 
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Behold, your new dGPU in Macbook Pro 15 inch:
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16 CU design - 1024 GCN cores, 35W TDP.
If that is the chip we will be seeing in the MacBook, it's kind of underwhelming even for a Polaris 11. ~4000 fire strike score vs ~5000 in the desktop RX 460. I wonder if that is the result of throttling, or if it will throttle down to even lower performance than that?

edit: still faster than the firepro M6100 in my BBW Precision M6800
(big beautiful workstation :p)

edit 2: WAIT A MINUTE that's the exact same info AMD put out in a press release months ago and we haven't seen any other benchmarks for this chip at all.

See: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-480M.164291.0.html
 
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Good evening folks,

I'm a bit out of the loop in terms of rumored specs for the high-end 15-inch Pros. How do we anticipate they will do at gaming through Bootcamp? I love Macs for daily use, and would also enjoy being able to play modern games at 1080p on medium settings if at all possible.

I think the dPGU 15" will play modern games at medium smoothly. Some games on high settings.

I think i'm going iMac, unless the MBPs somehow turn out to be REVOLUTIONARY

You can bet apple will call it revolutionary. because of the oled bar

GTX 1060 for MBP

your last guess may work actually.. 1060 pages by Oct. I think you will be RIGHT!

.. will, i guess wrong anyway :D

how many more pages until we get to page # Titan x?

Any guess what GPU of the MBP 13" will be? I'd be happy with RX 460M.

I'm looking forward to buying a new laptop, and if I'm spending $1500, I'd expect the new machine to be more powerful than my previous piece. My current ASUS laptop which I bought for 600 bucks 2 years ago has Geforce 840M which is only marginally weaker than the Iris Pro 6200.

If the new card will be only 20-25% more powerful than the Iris 6100, it won't cut it for me (not a hardcore gamer, but I like to play games here and there). Might as well go grab the MacBook 12 for portability and start ordering desktop parts.

Almost definitely Iris 550.

small chance that apple drops to 15W Iris 540.
but I think it will be Iris 550.

and then next year, if/when they update to kaby lake would be Iris 650

Weird. They added the Sierra wallpaper to the cMBP, but the rMBPs still have flowers. All have Sierra on the buy page.

Can't wait to pick up my cMBP with Sierra!!

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I gotta get me one of those! Ivy Bridge CPU, 4GM RAM., and 5400RPM! DVD drive, an inch thick!
 
Weird. They added the Sierra wallpaper to the cMBP, but the rMBPs still have flowers. All have Sierra on the buy page.

Can't wait to pick up my cMBP with Sierra!!

FqZUAQp.jpg
The cMBP would be a great machine if they actually bothered to update it. i5-6287U, 256GB SATA SSD, 8GB RAM, Thunderbolt 3/USB-C and a 1440x900 IPS screen as standard for $899-$999 would make it an excellent machine.
 
Probably be quicker tbh. I know here in Boston/Dorchester, the UPS/FedEx are pretty good about package care, even making a special trip after hours delivering my 2012 iMac way back when. But I understand a lot of places have issues (former friend once ordered a new toilet from Amazon and they left it in pieces in Brooklyn on her front steps. lol).
Haha, my FedEx/UPS is sporadic. Either it comes pristine, or it is heavily damaged. I think I'll go with the custom config shipping from China to store. Hopefully, it's sh
The cMBP would be a great machine if they actually bothered to update it. i5-6287U, 256GB SATA SSD, 8GB RAM, Thunderbolt 3/USB-C and a 1440x900 IPS screen as standard for $899-$999 would make it an excellent machine.
If they did this, there wouldn't be much differentiation from the rMBP other than the retina screen, so Apple would cannibalize its own rMBP sales which in *your* scenario would have a HUGE margin of profit over the cMBP because the retina screen alone would be a ~$400 profit. Nobody would justify the 50% price jump to the rMBP if the internals of the cMBP are almost the same.
 
I have a 1050p monitor laying around that I can use as an external display. I heard that you can't connect your mbp to an external display with its lid open. Would using it with its lid closed damage the screen? Because the computer gets very hot when you put it under some pressure.
 
If that is the chip we will be seeing in the MacBook, it's kind of underwhelming even for a Polaris 11. ~4000 fire strike score vs ~5000 in the desktop RX 460. I wonder if that is the result of throttling, or if it will throttle down to even lower performance than that?

edit: still faster than the firepro M6100 in my BBW Precision M6800
(big beautiful workstation :p)

edit 2: WAIT A MINUTE that's the exact same info AMD put out in a press release months ago and we haven't seen any other benchmarks for this chip at all.

See: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-480M.164291.0.html
So is this the card we're realistically expecting? Notebook check says the card is slightly faster than a 960M
 
So is this the card we're realistically expecting? Notebook check says the card is slightly faster than a 960M
Most of us think that if this card is indeed 35w tdp *and* if the mbp is getting a dgpu at all, we will be seeing this chip in the 15".
 
Bear in mind that AMD GPUs are bottlenecked in DX11 environment. Every API that is based on Mantle lifts the software bottleneck, so in theory that GPU in DX12, and Metal should be roughly on par will similarly clocked Nvidia GPU. For example - desktop GTX 960 has 1024 CUDA cores, but has a boost clock of around 1.35 GHz.

We do not know however, how Apple will clock it. Lately they are known to overclock a bit the GPUs they use in their computers(M395X, for example).
 
If that is the chip we will be seeing in the MacBook, it's kind of underwhelming even for a Polaris 11. ~4000 fire strike score vs ~5000 in the desktop RX 460. I wonder if that is the result of throttling, or if it will throttle down to even lower performance than that?

edit: still faster than the firepro M6100 in my BBW Precision M6800
(big beautiful workstation :p)

edit 2: WAIT A MINUTE that's the exact same info AMD put out in a press release months ago and we haven't seen any other benchmarks for this chip at all.

See: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-480M.164291.0.html

Why do you say underwhelming?
It is about double the performance of the dGPU currently in the rMBP. Double is a huge leap.

normally its like 20% faster or 40% faster, etc
 
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