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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Well....when you starve someone for so long, they'll eat whatever is put in front of them.
Or as Steve Jobs might say in a situation like this, "It's like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell"
I finally figured it out. Pro = Prolonged release cycle. The Mac Pro is obviously the most Pro out of all of Apple's products and the most deserving of the name. I think that as much as we would like to think of the rMBP as a Pro product, it is not even as Pro as the cMBP or the Mac Mini. We have another few hundred days of waiting before we can consider the rMBP a real Pro product. To bring consistency to their product matrix, I hope that they change the Mac Mini's name to reflect its Pro status. It certainly deserves it after two consecutive 700+ day release cycles with the release in the middle being a regression on a few fronts. Let's hope that Pro != Prolonged death, which they apparently adopted for naming their pro software.
Based on Intel's roadmap, I think Intel has bought into this new scheme. I don't see anything in the immediate future that would be an appropriate replacement for the 6770HQ which hasn't even made it into the rMBP yet. I think we need to get used to these interminable waits for the new shiny product. The problem is that I refuse to pay top dollar for dated tech. I understand that AAPL's margins are important, but giving their customers good value for the price is important as well.
I think the days of massive improvements in speeds and feeds is over for a while, especially tied to Intel and AMD. I wish Apple had stuck it out with Nvidia, but hopefully they will be back in a few revisions, if AMD can't catch up. My real fear is that Apple will develop custom silicon with AMD that will take a few years to catch up to where Intel is now, much less catch up to where they will be in the future in terms of performance per watt. With their accomplishments with the A series processors, I may be wrong, but I think the A series benefited tremendously from ARM and the RISC architecture. Seeing the same domination in a CISC architecture should be much more difficult.
For most of what I do, the hardware has reached a level where it is more than sufficient to easily handle my workload. I game on a PC that I built running either Windows 10 or linux depending on the game, but for all other applications I prefer using Macs. If I have a choice, I will always choose to use a Mac, if the software or an equivalent is available, and I own a Mac. Unfortunately, I'm typing this on my linux box, since I sold my rMB in the Spring hoping for a new rMBP at WWDC. Huge mistake, as I should have realized we were only mid product cycle at that point. I've tried living with and iPad Pro as my only mobile computer, and it is just not there yet. Even if they gave us access to the file system and better multitasking, I can't see it ever catching up for more than simple creation or consumption.
I am hoping for an October surprise, hopefully one without the rMB's abomination of a keyboard and the reliance on one type of port.
Based on Intel's roadmap, I think Intel has bought into this new scheme. I don't see anything in the immediate future that would be an appropriate replacement for the 6770HQ which hasn't even made it into the rMBP yet. I think we need to get used to these interminable waits for the new shiny product. The problem is that I refuse to pay top dollar for dated tech. I understand that AAPL's margins are important, but giving their customers good value for the price is important as well.
I think the days of massive improvements in speeds and feeds is over for a while, especially tied to Intel and AMD. I wish Apple had stuck it out with Nvidia, but hopefully they will be back in a few revisions, if AMD can't catch up. My real fear is that Apple will develop custom silicon with AMD that will take a few years to catch up to where Intel is now, much less catch up to where they will be in the future in terms of performance per watt. With their accomplishments with the A series processors, I may be wrong, but I think the A series benefited tremendously from ARM and the RISC architecture. Seeing the same domination in a CISC architecture should be much more difficult.
For most of what I do, the hardware has reached a level where it is more than sufficient to easily handle my workload. I game on a PC that I built running either Windows 10 or linux depending on the game, but for all other applications I prefer using Macs. If I have a choice, I will always choose to use a Mac, if the software or an equivalent is available, and I own a Mac. Unfortunately, I'm typing this on my linux box, since I sold my rMB in the Spring hoping for a new rMBP at WWDC. Huge mistake, as I should have realized we were only mid product cycle at that point. I've tried living with and iPad Pro as my only mobile computer, and it is just not there yet. Even if they gave us access to the file system and better multitasking, I can't see it ever catching up for more than simple creation or consumption.
I am hoping for an October surprise, hopefully one without the rMB's abomination of a keyboard and the reliance on one type of port.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...behind-the-display-of-an-ios-device.html#more
That's a link to an Apple patent that would allow the iPhone screen to become a finger print scanner. I can only assume it would be easier to do to a trackpad.
Considering a gaming console like the PS4 can have the word "Pro" attached it, that pretty much shows how meaningless the "Pro" moniker is in 2016. I was halfway expecting iPhone 7 "Pro" at the last September event.
It has gpu 2x more powerful than new macbook pro with radeon 480mConsidering a gaming console like the PS4 can have the word "Pro" attached it, that pretty much shows how meaningless the "Pro" moniker is in 2016. I was halfway expecting iPhone 7 "Pro" at the last September event.
If they stick a couple usb-c, Skylake in and nothing else. That would be a downgrade.
I would be really pissed if they Still don't update the air.
Kill it or give us the retina air we've wanted for years now.
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Give it up, it's not happening. The Air is a dead man walking. I seriously doubt the rumor that it's getting refreshed again after they bumped the RAM for one last lap. It doesn't fit in the lineup, especially the name. MB is the new Air.
If they kill the Air, the lowest cost notebook will be $1,299. Are you thinking The Air will be replaced by an iPad Pro?
In Tim Cooke's dreams, it already has probably.
If apple was smart, they would leave the MacBook Air with the matte screen (1080p), 128GB SDD, 8GB RAM, & a low powered Kaby Lake Processor and sell it for 799 USD. Leave that as your basic/low cost MacBook, MacBook the mid-tier, & the MBP as the premium/highest-tier MacBook.
My 2011 MBA is still running fine, but 4 GB RAM just doesn't cut it any more. The 11" size and aspect ratio is perfect for commuting in Japan--if they had a 16 GB ram option and updated interfaces, maybe Retina, I'd be one happy camper!
Pretty sure apple will announce the event on oct 3 to be on oct 12. Googles event is on oct 4, so apple can steal some of the coverage
They will leave an outdated air as the low end just like they do with old iPads and the cmpb. Once the cost of the MacBook comes down just like the air did when it was new they will trash the air.
While I agree with you. I don't think the air will be updated in it's current form.
But the iris 540 would not be cost upgrade? It would be the same cost as 6000 at launch time. That's like saying apple won't put skylake in mbp because it's cost upgrade over broadwell.
Upgrading to a new generation in the same tier. Has never been consider a cost upgrade.
Just an update /refresh
Doesn't matter to me now but I got a feeling adding the anniversary model tag to the MBP equals more $$$ needed to buy them...if this is true.
Ya, the retail staff don't know a single thing about unannounced info.
None of them would now, apple would never tell them.
Then again, people said that about the March, WWDC, and September so it's all meaningless anyway. If there's nothing in October, it has to be November, right?
I'm dismayed that you'd pass on a new MacBook Pro because you can't remove the SSD.
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