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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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Comment from the MACBREAK Weekly podcast ran along the lines of the innards of the MBP has been (or is being) designed so that it can transition to ARM chips at some point in the not too dim and distant future. If that is their ultimate goal, does that mean that engineering problems with Skylake can throw a monkey wrench into an envelope
created to ultimately transition to ARM?
Note the leak on Appleinsider of a purported A10X chip benchmark results. http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/04/alleged-a10x-benchmarks-appear-trounce-iphone-7s-a10-
 
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sbpax said:
My personal take on this huge delay is the have been sent back to the drawing board at least once by the rest of the industry (think SurfaceBook and others). I bet someone high up went "We can't release this ****, give me something better".
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Hahaha maybe. I definitely think the higher ups at Apple have taken notice of the competitiveness in the mid-high end laptop market. A lot has changed since Apple introduced the 1st retina Pro models. Simply releasing a slimmer design with new chips and a few color options won't cut it in this market. The Steve Jobs era when Apple products would fly off shelves simply because of the Apple logo is passing by (some would say it has already passed). If Apple wants to stay relevant in the computer market, the new MacBook Pro will have to be innovative and come at the right price.

The OLED touch bar might not be the only major upgrade in these units. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has a few more surprises up their sleeve to keep these MacBooks ahead of the competition.
 
cibonak said:
If these are all true...

  • OLED touch screen to replace fn keys
  • Touch ID
  • USB-C
  • Intel Skylake processors
Apple has my credit card

How much woûd you expect?
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You have low expectations because those are almost given. LOL. I'm kidding about the low expectations part, a bit. But c'mon, Skylake is an obvious, ain't it? So is USB-C. OLED touch strip was iterated by both Gurman and Ming Chi Kuo and so is Touch ID.

What you meant to say is Apple has your credit card for delivering what we already all expect :p
 
terminator-jq said:
The OLED touch bar might not be the only major upgrade in these units. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has a few more surprises up their sleeve to keep these MacBooks ahead of the competition.
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TouchID, OLED bar, wide gamut, thinner, lighter = knocked it out of the park!!

Apple doesn't need to do much to completely obliterate the laptop market.

4 years later, the rMBP's design is still one of the best. I've handled the Surfacebook in the MS store, and it doesn't feel as robust and high quality.
 
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powertoold said:
TouchID, OLED bar, wide gamut, thinner, lighter = knocked it out of the park!!

Apple doesn't need to do much to completely obliterate the laptop market.

4 years later, the rMBP's design is still one of the best. I've handled the Surfacebook in the MS store, and it doesn't feel as robust and high quality.
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I believe there will be some sort of bezel reduction. They've all stated that there will be a footprint reduction, and I don't believe the only place it'll come from is thinness height wise.
 
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so yet again, there is a 10% off sale here with the local retailer on all Macs - https://www.jbhifi.com.au/deals/computers-tablets/hot-deals-on-apple-computers

there was one quite recent too, so I reckon they must be getting rid of inventory as I don't remember the last time there were so many discounts as close to each other.

Re. comments above on the upgrades to the new MBP - I don't think there will be any surprises and the rumours of recent times seem to be spot on.

CC all primed for a huge spend up.
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Branflaakes said:
I believe there will be some sort of bezel reduction. They've all stated that there will be a footprint reduction, and I don't believe the only place it'll come from is thinness height wise.
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This would be great - footprint and associated bezel reduction, together with a bit of thinness. The weight loss will come from removing the headphone jack......
 
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Branflaakes said:
I believe there will be some sort of bezel reduction. They've all stated that there will be a footprint reduction, and I don't believe the only place it'll come from is thinness height wise.
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That might be true, but it won't be much. Bezels are iconic to Apple. It's why the iPhone bezels have stayed pretty much the same for so long. It's also why the new Macbook has pretty big bezels instead of a slightly larger screen.
 
powertoold said:
That might be true, but it won't be much. Bezels are iconic to Apple. It's why the iPhone bezels have stayed pretty much the same for so long. It's also why the new Macbook has pretty big bezels instead of a slightly larger screen.
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They are not 'iconic'. They will go sooner or later. I don't think there is anything iconic in Apple design and they will remove something if it can be improved on.
If anything is iconic in design it is the Aluminium [yes I talk like Jony too....]
 
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powertoold said:
That might be true, but it won't be much. Bezels are iconic to Apple. It's why the iPhone bezels have stayed pretty much the same for so long. It's also why the new Macbook has pretty big bezels instead of a slightly larger screen.
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Plausible, but I'm more willing to bet on a bezel reduction this model year than any other year after 2012 up till now. Why? Because it's purportedly the biggest overhaul of the MBP yet, again quoting Ming.

Plus Bezels of this size will be antiquated soon. If not now, then when? That's the question. Some day they have to go. I mean, can you realistically believe Apple will keep these bezels in 2046, for argument's sake? :p
 
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Branflaakes said:
I believe there will be some sort of bezel reduction. They've all stated that there will be a footprint reduction, and I don't believe the only place it'll come from is thinness height wise.
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any chance for a bezel reduction, but keeping the same footprint, thus allowing for a larger screen size? like, 14 and 16 inch macbook pros that have the same footprint, but with less bezel and more screen real estate?
 
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any chance for a bezel reduction, but keeping the same footprint, thus allowing for a larger screen size? like, 14 and 16 inch macbook pros that have the same footprint, but with less bezel and more screen real estate?
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Honestly, if there were 2 choices for Apple:

1)Reduce Bezel, and thus reduce overall device size

or

2)Reduce Bezel, keep device dimensions and increase screen real estate

I really believe Apple would go with #1, if it were an all or nothing scenario. However realistically a mixture of both is the most probable, I believe.
 
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richinaus said:
They are not 'iconic'. They will go sooner or later. I don't think there is anything iconic in Apple design and they will remove something if it can be improved on.
If anything is iconic in design it is the Aluminium [yes I talk like Jony too....]
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Apple is also very keen on maintaining their identity. In the case of the iPhone, they could have definitely reduced some of the bezel, but if they did, it would look like the android phones.

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[doublepost=1475727590][/doublepost]Bezels have not changed much for a long time:

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[doublepost=1475727750][/doublepost]It's also the reason why the Apple Watch isn't round. It'd be difficult to maintain an identity if it's like everything else.
 
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Apple is also very keen on maintaining their identity. In the case of the iPhone, they could have definitely reduced some of the bezel, but if they did, it would look like the android phones.

all-iphones.jpg

[doublepost=1475727590][/doublepost]Bezels have not changed much for a long time:

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[doublepost=1475727750][/doublepost]It's also the reason why the Apple Watch isn't round. It'd be difficult to maintain an identity if it's like everything else.
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Don't forget electronics from many other manufacturers look similar year after year, but you wouldn't really call it iconic, would you? Also don't forget the white bezels on the Air.

It's not so much about keeping identity as it is about the change not being worth it enough. The iPhone next year is purported to be a wholly new edge to edge design. Smartphones have just kicked off the last decade or so. You can't realistically expect Apple to adopt different bezel designs for each iteration. Also to add, Apple is a company of change. Things people said Apple would never do, Apple does. It's less of a conservative company in your mindset as it is a progressive company compared to many others. They're really not that afraid of "abandoning the former and adopting the latter" when it comes to technological change.
 
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Is there any solid evidence that a new macbook pro is coming soon? I mean 1089 pages of discussion and we still have no idea. Maybe we are getting the Mac Pro treatment with 3 years of no updates!?
 
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Branflaakes said:
Don't forget electronics from many other manufacturers look similar year after year, but you wouldn't really call it iconic, would you? Also don't forget the white bezels on the Air.

It's not so much about keeping identity as it is about the change not being worth it enough. The iPhone next year is purported to be a wholly new edge to edge design. Smartphones have just kicked off the last decade or so. You can't realistically expect Apple to adopt different bezel designs for each iteration. Also to add, Apple is a company of change. Things people said Apple would never do, Apple does. It's less of a conservative company in your mindset as it is a progressive company compared to many others. They're really not that afraid of "abandoning the former and adopting the latter" when it comes to technological change.
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I know. I think Apple follows a basic design principle: you can tell it's an Apple product from the front and back lol.

I love design in general, and that's why I have such an appreciation for Apple stuff. When I first saw the Apple Watch, everything made so much sense in terms of design. Nowadays, you can instantly tell when someone has an Apple Watch.

Regarding the edge to edge design, you can bet Apple will find a way to make the design their own.
 
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terminator-jq said:
Hahaha maybe. I definitely think the higher ups at Apple have taken notice of the competitiveness in the mid-high end laptop market. A lot has changed since Apple introduced the 1st retina Pro models. Simply releasing a slimmer design with new chips and a few color options won't cut it in this market. The Steve Jobs era when Apple products would fly off shelves simply because of the Apple logo is passing by (some would say it has already passed). If Apple wants to stay relevant in the computer market, the new MacBook Pro will have to be innovative and come at the right price.

The OLED touch bar might not be the only major upgrade in these units. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has a few more surprises up their sleeve to keep these MacBooks ahead of the competition.
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There was a person here from a chinese forum that stated only the 15 inch would have the OLED Bar. Now of course Ill take that with a grain of salt, but if thats true what else will Apple really be offering?

I think that huge trackpad will be compatible with the Apple Pencil. I mean its sooo huge, there has to be some use of it, and since theyve adopted Force Touch, its a fixed piece - meaning easier to write on than clik clik click. Secondly, we may see some sort of wireless charging mechanism - I have a feeling, as thatll leave USB C for data transfer only. Touch ID in itself isnt really that innovative anymore, Ive seen competitors use it. But Im sure the implementation by Apple will be far better than anyone else. For me trackpad and wireless would be enough for first day!
 
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