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Don't the Tim Cook years remind you of the Scully years? Too many needless product variations. MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, (IPad Pro?). Each in a half dozen configurations. For a product segment that is seeing significant decline in sales and is quickly losing relevance. It's almost like there are competing laptop factions within Apple tryin to whip up different takes. Seriously, why doesn't apple just make one line laptop with minor case variations as you go from small and portable to larger and more powerful so that they can be more agile, nimble and quicker to market with relevant hardware updates? In an ideal world, a single infinitely powerful, infinitely light/portable, infinitely ergonomic computer would be all that is required--kind of like a pencil. I think that producing too many options puts would-be buyers into purchase paralysis.

I so much wanted to get my son a new MacBook Pro for his freshman year at college, figuring it would last him through college and beyond and held off as long as I could. But the new pro didn't show up in time. I told him he could use a chromebook just until October when the new pros were sure to come out. I bought it two years ago for $200 just to see what it could do. He's been using it for two weeks and guess what? It's working out fine for him. It helps that he is going to a University of California campus and they, like others, have standardized on gmail and electronic submission of papers and homework via browser interfaces. It certainly isn't ideal for all circumstances and I'll get him a new pro when it ultimately comes out but now I'm wondering why?
His phone is his real computer and the chromebook works for coursework. Maybe because that's what his older sister got, maybe because I promised it to him, maybe because it's my impression of what he needs, but certainly not because I think that ten years from now anything that is built like a current MacBook will be as relevant as a transistor radio is today--which actually may be closer to the truth.

Why not just get him a mbook or air? Because the delta in price for several more years of usable life is relatively low and he's in a technical field so no telling what he might need. This has become really relevant with the recent Sierra upgrade. I have an original MBP15. A couple of my colleagues bought Airs at the same time, mainly to save money and because they looked cool. I'm quite happy with the upgrade to Sierra and I think I could go a couple more years with my pro, they are wishing they never installed Sierra and are requesting new laptops. But relative to the chromebook there really isn't much to be gained.

The stagnation of the Mac product line has really got me thinking about apple's motives. On the one hand, it makes perfect sense when it has be come such a small fraction of apple's revenue stream. The longer you can go between product refreshes the more profit you make as long as people are buying, because R&D, tooling and production costs are spread over more and more units, the individual component pieces become far cheaper because they are no longer state of the art but rather surplus, and you can make minor meaningless changes that don't cost anything actually lower production costs, and actually charge the customer the same or more for them. On the other hand, I can imagine the arguments that go on at apple concerning product differentiation.

If it were Jobs instead of Cook I think we would see a considerable reduction in product variation, particularly at the MacBook level.

I am hoping that we are living through the transition to the next phase of Apple and that all this confusion on UI and USB sockets and touch sensors etc will shake out to a coherent and integrated product line across the whole of the Apple platform and that the core simplicity returns, because right now I agree it's pandemonium.

Price jump for U.K. At the very least. They'll span a range of prices - the highest end spec Macs may well be higher at least outside of US. Highest end models probably a little more at least..

With the Pound tanking, I am just worried that the money I put away over 12 months ago for the next mbp is going to be able to cover the currency increase alone! I'd like to see announcements soon to try lock in some prices - as the longer this goes on the closer to rate collapse this goes and I think by the time we can actually buy anything early next year its going to be close to £2000 for a basic one.
 
I am hoping that we are living through the transition to the next phase of Apple and that all this confusion on UI and USB sockets and touch sensors etc will shake out to a coherent and integrated product line across the whole of the Apple platform and that the core simplicity returns, because right now I agree it's pandemonium.



With the Pound tanking, I am just worried that the money I put away over 12 months ago for the next mbp is going to be able to cover the currency increase alone! I'd like to see announcements soon to try lock in some prices - as the longer this goes on the closer to rate collapse this goes and I think by the time we can actually buy anything early next year its going to be close to £2000 for a basic one.

Going through the same pain. At least you're in Scotland which potentially will join the EU, I'm stuck in London
 
Its quite possible that apple does a silent update, and no media event.

Really?
Why do you think so? (genuine question)
I mean, after Kuo claiming the "more substantial upgrade of the MBP", and considering the new design, improvements and updates, and last but not least this eternal wait... Apple just update the website, with a video of Jony Ive introducing the new MBP and nothing more?
 
Why do you think so? (genuine question)
I said its possible, as they've done that before. Plus any new MBPs will most likely be on Skylake and not Kaby lake, so they'll not be on Intel's latest chipset, but the chipset that is soon to be replaced - seems kind of embarrassing to me that you would be touting such a great machine, but be using a chipset that is near the end of its lifecycle not at the beginning.
 
You might feel like you are RIGHT that I am your evil twin, but unfortunately you are definitely @WRONG.
Who are we to judge who is evil and who is not?

Mark this day folks! Today is the day this thread starts moving forward in RIGHT direction again. Or not... depends on new rumors/invites. Unless we get someone to ask if in 2016 MBP we will see Kaby Lake chips...
Apple, you can't make us wait any longer. I think this wait gave @WRONG bipolar disorder... I don't know how much longer it will take for me to lose it too :D
 
I said its possible, as they've done that before. Plus any new MBPs will most likely be on Skylake and not Kaby lake, so they'll not be on Intel's latest chipset, but the chipset that is soon to be replaced - seems kind of embarrassing to me that you would be touting such a great machine, but be using a chipset that is near the end of its lifecycle not at the beginning.

Have you guys noticed that BestBuy web site is not selling any macbook pro 15 models ???? Could this mean something is going to happen next week?
 
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wish they would announce something because i need to trade my macbook pro and get the apple gift card used to purchase the new one and that can take up to 3 weeks to get!
 
That is usually how time progresses.

Usually...
You are right, are you my cousin somehow?!

Apple, you can't make us wait any longer. I think this wait gave @WRONG bipolar disorder... I don't know how much longer it will take for me to lose it too :D

You might be CORRECT sir!

I said its possible, as they've done that before. Plus any new MBPs will most likely be on Skylake and not Kaby lake, so they'll not be on Intel's latest chipset, but the chipset that is soon to be replaced - seems kind of embarrassing to me that you would be touting such a great machine, but be using a chipset that is near the end of its lifecycle not at the beginning.

Skylake chips that will probably be used in new MBP are fresh, not old (ok no i take it back... not enough time to write long wall of text explaining it). Please read like last 30 pages there is at least one reply to why Skylake chip used in new MBP will be new.
 
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The buzz is on for Apple to launch their new MacBook Pro later this month with many sources pinning the date to October 27. The new MacBooks will sport Intel's next generation processors that Intel's Navin Shenoy, VP, GM Client Computing Group says will introduce the 'immersive internet' where access to 4K Ultra High-Definition, 360-degree video, and virtual reality will dramatically rise.

:zzz no sources, no facts and obviously no clue
 
So where will the event/briefing happen? The new campus is not up and running yet, so Apple probably have to book an offsite auditorium again. In the past, for anticipated events, keen reporters have found blackouts in local venues to predict the date/location, but so far we hear nothing.

My hopes are not high for a big event in October :(
 
So where will the event/briefing happen? The new campus is not up and running yet, so Apple probably have to book an offsite auditorium again. In the past, for anticipated events, keen reporters have found blackouts in local venues to predict the date/location, but so far we hear nothing.

My hopes are not high for a big event in October :(
Apple could just have a media only event <--- me keeping fingers crossed
 
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Yeah Apple's laptop lineup is a mess (the iPad lineup is pretty bad also and it looks like it will get more confusing next year. Are we moving to an iPad Pro only lineup).

What they should have is:

Low end MacBook: 12" retina screen, powered by some variation of the A10X chip that is going in next years iPads, 1 USB-C. This would bridge the gap between iPads and Macs and would be great for students who don't need a bunch of power. If they price it around $700 it could be the perfect entry level Mac. This would replace the Air.

Mid tier MacBook: 13" retina screen, powered by intel, 2 USB-C.

High end MacBook Pro: 13" and 15" retina screen with wide color gamut (maybe HDR), fast chips from intel, 4 USB-C, OLED touch bar.

Something for every price range. That should fix the low Mac sales.
 
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You guys remember the reddit-guy, claiming his dad is booked as security for an Apple Event in mid October?
Either that was BS or a press-only event with an embargo.
 
You guys remember the reddit-guy, claiming his dad is booked as security for an Apple Event in mid October?
Either that was BS or a press-only event with an embargo.

if there is a press-only event in mid october shouldnt there as least be a rumor/leak about it?
 
if there is a press-only event in mid october shouldnt there as least be a rumor/leak about it?

If they only invite a select few from the press, those few won't want to piss Apple off and leak it early. If they did then they wouldn't get the opportunity next time around.

All just speculation on my part, of course.
 
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