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Ha, just thought what we talk about when the announcement date is official.

One week of silence (r.i.p. Serban)?
One week of questions like "but where are the leaks?" - "will they have kabylake?" - "how much more will they cost?"
One week of real life?
One week of preparations: chips, beer and a full credit card?
 
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I don't want to invest in a display until OLED 4K displays become cheaper. Ive used enough LCDs, time for OLED. Also, I make short films as a hobby, would love to truly edit the darkness. Usually, I cant see much on a LCD in terms of night scenes and have to crank up the brightness or reshoot with more lighting, however seeing it on my brother's S6 AMOLED screen, I can see all the details are vivid and preserved.

I think when OLED does become the industry standard, more and more films will actually be shot at night. Instead of shooting in around evening, and then cging out the sun and darkening the image. YUCK
Hey, could you name some (or even better all - doubt there are many of them) OLED 4K/5K >24" displays on the market? I'm going to buy a display with rMBP 2016 and although I hope Apple will show us Apple OLED 5K Thunderbolt display, this might not be the case, so I want to have backup plan and 4K OLED seems a good idea.
 
Hey, could you name some (or even better all - doubt there are many of them) OLED 4K >24" displays on the market? I'm going to buy a display with rMBP 2016 and although I hope Apple will show us Apple OLED 5K Thunderbolt display, this might not be the case, so I want to have backup plan and 4K OLED seems a good idea.

I too had that wish. But considering how Apple hasnt even brought out OLED to its iPhone, their flagship product, I highly doubt we're going to see it in their external displays.

I've heard great things about the Dell UP3017Q, its both OLED and 4K UHD. Downside: its $5000 lol.

Sony also has 4K monitors, but they're even more expensive than the Dell. And I havent heard much about them, good or bad.

So far only Dell and Sony are the ones that have OLED 4K UHD monitors available for selling.

I'm sure Samsung and LG will have monitors ready for next year at a far more reasonable, yet still expensive, price. However, I wouldn't go with LG cause they're just, well, I've had bad experiences...including LG manufactured displays used in rMBPs.

Yeah as of now, not really enough options for people like us. Maybe in a year or two.

Honestly, I just hope that Apple starts putting OLED panels in MBPs in a 2017 update (not refresh - thatll prolly be 2020)


It just look so sexy!
 
Hey, could you name some (or even better all - doubt there are many of them) OLED 4K/5K >24" displays on the market? I'm going to buy a display with rMBP 2016 and although I hope Apple will show us Apple OLED 5K Thunderbolt display, this might not be the case, so I want to have backup plan and 4K OLED seems a good idea.


:D

Would cost thousands. This is Apple, the company that we're still selling this for £900 in the U.K until a few months ago, USB 2.0 and FireWire !!!
 
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Guys.. if you've been following Apple for long enough, you know the new MBP isnt going to have an OLED panel or anything fancy. The first iteration focuses on a new design and each one thereafter will bump up the performance. It's the same across most of their devices and it's actually smart in terms of delivering year over year sales increases. Not smart for a buyer who wants to get years of value from a purchase.

The next MBP will feature a newly designed shell. Next years or the year after will feature an oled screen. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's switch to oled begins with the iPhone/iPad and comes over to larger displays/laptops. Remember, Tim Cook is Mr. Logistics. When you introduce OLED you do it with a multi year roadmap where you increase production across the supplier(s). That's how you ensure predictable production rates while increasing quality on the line with each iteration.
 
Guys.. if you've been following Apple for long enough, you know the new MBP isnt going to have an OLED panel or anything fancy. The first iteration focuses on a new design and each one thereafter will bump up the performance. It's the same across most of their devices and it's actually smart in terms of delivering year over year sales increases. Not smart for a buyer who wants to get years of value from a purchase.

The next MBP will feature a newly designed shell. Next years or the year after will feature an oled screen. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's switch to oled begins with the iPhone/iPad and comes over to larger displays/laptops. Remember, Tim Cook is Mr. Logistics. When you introduce OLED you do it with a multi year roadmap where you increase production across the supplier(s). That's how you ensure predictable production rates while increasing quality on the line with each iteration.
Are you talking about the 13" /15" main screen? If so, then you are right. I think Apple will still use a really nice DCI-P3 LCD like they have used in every new product past 11 months or so. I think LG has some patents for OLED that make it really expensive but those will expire next year if I recall. However most of us here refer to the small display taking the place of the function key row as an OLED display. That is something that requires a complete redesign of the chassis so I can't see them adding it next year and having a chassis redesign this year. That display is so small that paying cost isn't really an issue.
 
Are you talking about the 13" /15" main screen? If so, then you are right. I think Apple will still use a really nice DCI-P3 LCD like they have used in every new product past 11 months or so. I think LG has some patents for OLED that make it really expensive but those will expire next year if I recall. However most of us here refer to the small display taking the place of the function key row as an OLED display. That is something that requires a complete redesign of the chassis so I can't see them adding it next year and having a chassis redesign this year. That display is so small that paying cost isn't really an issue.

Yes I was referring to the laptop screen. As far as the oled bar.. if I was Apple and I could design the chassis that adding the bar next year was simple, I would probably hold off. If Apple does have big plans for the bar, then sure add it this year. I haven't seen enough from the leaks that makes me feel like this is an outstanding feature but then again I don't know what the vision for the bar is.
 
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I really have a hard time seeing the Touch Bar being useful. I rarely use the Fn keys right now, and for example, for browsing, I'm doing finger gestures for back and forward, etc.
 
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My local Apple Store seems to be preparing for the new MBP
 
I really have a hard time seeing the Touch Bar being useful. I rarely use the Fn keys right now, and for example, for browsing, I'm doing finger gestures for back and forward, etc.

It can be very useful if i.e. you're programming and also downloading something and can code + just look up top at the OLED bar to check progress, without having to alt+tab, but depends on how they'll implement the contextual features exactly.
 
I really have a hard time seeing the Touch Bar being useful. I rarely use the Fn keys right now, and for example, for browsing, I'm doing finger gestures for back and forward, etc.

We haven't seen it yet. They wouldn't add it if they didn't think it'd be useful. Let's wait and see.
 
John Gruber - to coin a phrase - has 'soft-confirmed' the 27th as the MacBook event... I always get the impression that he knows for sure but gives a strong indication...

That’s one day before Apple’s event to announce new MacBooks on Thursday 27 October — if Apple moved its earnings from the 27th to the 25th to make room for an event.

Gruber also said that he was certain the new MBP's would be announced at the september event and that was certainly wrong. I wouldnt't trust him, only Gurman
 
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Would cost thousands. This is Apple, the company that we're still selling this for £900 in the U.K until a few months ago, USB 2.0 and FireWire !!!
You know what's more frightening? No, they don't sell them anymore, they've stopped production. This made the prices skyrocket even more and some people buy them for 1300-1600 GBP. And it's not only money - they have to spend days just to find where to buy them. This is nuts!
 
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No we didn't. In past occasions were the hype got out of control no single source had indicated the release of new MBPs. Before the march event there was nothing. Before WWDC, Kuo said Q4 (Verified by Mark G.). Then of course people started to believe (claim actually) he was referring to fiscal Q4, just because they wanted to justify something coming out soon. Before the September event reputable sources said no new macs, and again people still believed (expected) they were going to release them just because you know...magic and the power of belief. The "hopes / rumors / buildups earlier in the thread" you stated were just that, hopes and claims from those who "wanted to believe" nothing more.
Sorry for the late reply, not watching that thread much anymore now that I gave up.Reputable sources also said September, and then an event early October. And here we are, 8th of October with no event or no invite.
I mean It might still happen later (!), but I have reason to doubt, and also in my particular case I have reasons to give up because I'll start a new job on the 17th so I'm screwed. Thank you Apple for being so unpredictable ( apart from the constant disappointment, which is predictable ) and not allowing us to plan renewal of our hardware. Yes I'm bitter :)
 
I'm buying them because I have to. They refuse to make the developer tools available to other platforms. If they did I would never buy another Mac again.

Honestly baffled as to why anybody who has got the choice would bother.




He's guessing. Why would they schedule the earnings call just to have to move it? If they were planning to hold an event surely they would've know that before the call was scheduled?
You're likely right, but you never know. They could have been planning the event for next week, then faced some delay or other issue that caused them to push the event back a week.
However, it would still be pretty uncharacteristic of them to hold an event on a Thursday. But also, Gruber has a ton of inside knowledge sometimes.

It's all a toss up and I just want info! :(
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Gruber also said that he was certain the new MBP's would be announced at the september event and that was certainly wrong. I wouldnt't trust him, only Gurman
Could you provide a source on this?

Edit: Here's the full quote form Gruber's August 29 article:
"Dalrymple:

'There has been speculation that new Macs will also be announced at this event, but I don’t think so. I’ve previously outlined my reasoning for thinking the company will not introduce Macs in September.'

Only a fool bets against Dalrymple, so I won’t. It makes sense to me, however, that Apple wouldannounce new Macs alongside the new iPhones. The iPhones are already sharing the stage with the new Apple Watch 2 models, and I got the feeling last year that Apple very much wanted to stick with just one fall event. If Dalrymple is right, though, I would guess the new Macs will be introduced in October — not with an event, but with small-scale private media briefings."
Not exactly insisting on September..
 
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Could you provide a source on this?

Edit: Here's the full quote form Gruber's August 29 article:
"Dalrymple:

'There has been speculation that new Macs will also be announced at this event, but I don’t think so. I’ve previously outlined my reasoning for thinking the company will not introduce Macs in September.'

Only a fool bets against Dalrymple, so I won’t. It makes sense to me, however, that Apple wouldannounce new Macs alongside the new iPhones. The iPhones are already sharing the stage with the new Apple Watch 2 models, and I got the feeling last year that Apple very much wanted to stick with just one fall event. If Dalrymple is right, though, I would guess the new Macs will be introduced in October — not with an event, but with small-scale private media briefings."
Not exactly insisting on September..

You're right, at his August 29 article he said that he didn't expected them anymore in September but if you look at his August 10 article :

"Interesting. I definitely expected them to be announced at the September event, even if they’re not available for sale until late October or early November. " (source : http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/08/10/gurman-mbp)

He changed opinions, which isn't a fault or something. I'm just saying you shouldn't always trust the instincts/rumors of Gruber.
 
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I really have a hard time seeing the Touch Bar being useful. I rarely use the Fn keys right now, and for example, for browsing, I'm doing finger gestures for back and forward, etc.

I'd take it being useless (assuming it is actually usable in the way a standard Fn key row would be) now to be honest.

The bigger issue is them taking away the normal function keys and replacing it with something that doesn't work properly. I say this as somebody who has just had their lightning EarPods crash their phone for the umpteenth time.

I'm definitely hanging fire on purchasing one of these until I'm confident that it works as intended.
 
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