Not likely at all. ARM chips that could potentially match the higher end MBPs don't exist.
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Not likely at all. ARM chips that could potentially match the higher end MBPs don't exist.
a) Could ARM have designed something we don’t know about ?
b) Could another company ?
I’m not trying to stoke the fires of rumour, just get some educated responses to talk I hear from other Apple pundits. And yes, I’m waiting for a 15-inch MBP and yes, I want all the ports and 24GB RAM minimum.
Praying Apple don’t sacrifice functionality to skinny design – if they want to make anything thinner and lighter it should be the fugly brick that is
Watch.Well... We have seen an A10 chip with pretty good single core results but haven't seen any potential ARM chips that yet show the multi-core results comparable to current processors. IF such powerful ARM chips existed, do you really think that they would be ready this year? Making a change like that would be hugely disruptive and throw all of their product lines in turmoil... You'd think that they would give at least 6 month notice of such a change.
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And yes, I’m waiting for a 15-inch MBP and yes, I want all the ports and 24GB RAM minimum.
Praying Apple don’t sacrifice functionality to skinny design – if they want to make anything thinner and lighter it should be the fugly brick that is
There will be 32/64gb ram option, no doubt. Even the intel CPUs from last year support up to 64gb depending on ram.
I personally want a awesome DGPU with at least 4gb VRAM.
I also do not like the potential switch to ARM from the point of view of my Mac being an open, general-purpose computer.
I buy it primarily to run OSX, but am also able to dual boot desktop Windows/Linux as/if needed, or once Apple stops supporting a model.
x86 is also a much more open and hackable architecture from the programmer's point of view.
The switch to ARM would make a Mac much more locked down, "single-purpose" computer and am not happy giving Apple $2000+ for such a machine.
Look at the very unusual length of refresh cycle for all current Macs. Awaited MBP must be six months above average life cycle. And why ‘give notice’ if a redesigned chip can do all Intel can do (even if under some kind of emulation at first) ?
If Apple don’t come up with something pretty damned amazing, they’re going to look very silly for keeping us waiting so very long (and losing a lot of sales).
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I meant 24GB minimum, up from 16GB. Sierra eats memory.
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Perhaps they are ready, just late in production. If ARM are making the chip for Apple, why should anyone else know about it ? Indeed, it would not be in Apple’s interest to announce it prematurely.
Why ? Wouldn’t now be the ideal point at which to introduce a radical change ? It would mean that all Apple products (
Watch, TV, iPhone, iPad, Macs) run on Apple chips. I can’t begin to understand the benefits of consolidated chipset instructions, or the programming difficulties, but there would be some locked-down advantages of the kind Apple have traditionally liked. It would also increase the level of vertical integration in Apple Co.I’m not saying the idea is correct, but it’s certainly intriguing...
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There are code strings in Sierra that suggest support for ARM.
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I will e absolutely amazed if they offer an option of 64 gb of RAM in a notebook, i'll be surprised if there is even an option for 32gb.
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I will e absolutely amazed if they offer an option of 64 gb of RAM in a notebook, i'll be surprised if there is even an option for 32gb.
Look at the amount of notice that was given over the switch to Intel. How would non-Apple software developers get their apps to run on ARM without any notice? Emulation is likely to be a very poor user experience for demanding apps; for the Intel switch this was hidden under the significant performance boost.
That's already happening with the iPhone. They are only selling because of the massive user base built up previously. And the trend in sale volume will continue to drop over time. Same will happen with the Mac.
They wouldn't need to make any real adjustments. Developers currently submit their code and Apple compiles the binary code to run on the specific CPU architecture.
Skylake with GTe4 32 gb ddr4 Ram, Grey color option, USB C ports the OLED bar <3
and a smaler formfactor would be epic and don´t forget the Polaris GPU
increasing battery life would also be nice something like 120 wh but this is very unlikley ._.
an OLED screen would also be nice but will not happen but maybe a better screen like the one in the 12" maybe with better color like ipad pro 9.7,
and a smaler formfactor would be epic and don´t forget the Polaris GPU
increasing battery life would also be nice something like 120 wh but this is very unlikley ._.
an OLED screen would also be nice but will not happen but maybe a better screen like the one in the 12" maybe with better color like ipad pro 9.7,
Unscientific test: I usually have Word, Mail, Photoshop CC and Safari open on my iMac.
Under El Cap, I reliably had 68-70% of my 24GB RAM available.
Under Sierra it’s 45–50%. No doubt Sierra’s memory handling will be improved, but I wouldn’t want a MBP with less than 24GB, and ideally it would have 32GB. (incidentally I added 2 x 8GB RAM chips from Crucial to up the iMac’s supplied paltry 8GB: cost £85/$125).
A little birdy tells me Apple has run into reliability issues with the 15" MBP's and their dedicated GPU's some time back. They got the heat dissipation wrong for those chips' thermal envelope (because they tried to aggressively to cut down on thickness). This caused delays and some heated discussions with three options
- pull a hail Mary and release the systems and wait for enough buyers of GenA systems to complain to offer replacements
- release late and miss the holiday season
- underclock the GPU and risk underwhelming performance
I don't know what came off this, but buyers of the first systems should be careful.
- pull a hail Mary and release the systems and wait for enough buyers of GenA systems to complain to offer replacements
- release late and miss the holiday season
- underclock the GPU and risk underwhelming performance
I don't know what came off this, but buyers of the first systems should be careful.
Hope they release something suitable for you then, it doesnt exist currently.
My concern with buying the newly released model (if it's skylake) is that Apple will update the laptops to kabylake before these will have been out for a year. I got burned with the iPad 3 (bought it at launch then 6 months later they released the iPad 4 with much better specs).
Sounds more likely than the ARM theory.
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Don’t you think a move to a greater base RAM capacity would be a natural progression ? Or at least two (or three) tier RAM pricing ? 16/24/32 ? Do you reckon it’s technically impossible – or simply too costly ?
Not to worry. intel is incapable or unwilling to release Kaby Lake pieces with GT3, GT3e or GT4 Iris/Iris Pro graphics. Apple is absolutely furious over this, but there's not a lot they can do, so they will keep the MBP's on Skylake for quite some time and try to negotiate with intel about getting later generations with Iris Pro.
Activity monitor shows you how much memory is used by apps and how much by cached files. I bet that your App memory usage has stayed quite similar. It just caches files more aggressively to have fast access to them.
Why is that?
They make profit of orders with more ram and add in the likelihood of not doing a update within the next 16 months will give them leeway for high end computers.
I bet 16gb will be standard and 32gb will be on the top end with 64gb as a BTO option on the highest tier. The only issue I could see is space and heat preventing them but with DDR4 will minimize that trouble.
PS: I only say 16 month update is based off of final CPU choices. They will most likely either go with GTe4 or the GTe3. I think it will be GTe3 do to Intel and I find it highly doubtful they will do GTe4 and then go to GTe3.
Rainy weekend in Europe,no new rumors, just a little hope left to see the invites next week..
Don't know honestly. I just think its unlikely.
I'm not sure why anybody would need 64 gb RAM in a notebook to be honest but I very much doubt they will offer it. It isn't in Apples interests to future proof these machines too much.
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