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How long before the new macbooks hit the refurbished section after release? I am guessing it wouldn't be that long...
 
Stupid to release a Skylake at this point.

Thank God I bought a new MBP during the summer.

I'll be waiting for v2 of the new MBP. I reckon it'll be release date plus about year.
 
Being better informed would help you out in this decision. See you in 2018

Pretty much, yeah.

Then again, I'll probably just suck it up and buy it about 8 weeks after launch (in case they f*ck it up). I like to have the latest stuff. Always doing ones best work is a psychological thing for me.
 
Stupid to release a Skylake at this point.

Thank God I bought a new MBP during the summer.

I'll be waiting for v2 of the new MBP. I reckon it'll be release date plus about year.

Oh hello there liebe Oppenheim!
How are you?
We missed you!
Are you enjoying your old legacy flimsy 3.5 mm Jack + SD reader?
Also, are you ready to wait 3 years for next Coffee Lake MBP?
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looks like I am getting my iPhone 7 before the new MacBook Pro! delivers on Tuesday 10/18! :) maybe we will see invites the same day I get my new iPhone :D
 
They wouldn't need to make any real adjustments. Developers currently submit their code and Apple compiles the binary code to run on the specific CPU architecture.

That's not how it works on the Mac. Do you seriously see that happening with Adobe CS for example?
 
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Pretty much, yeah.

Then again, I'll probably just suck it up and buy it about 8 weeks after launch (in case they f*ck it up). I like to have the latest stuff. Always doing ones best work is a psychological thing for me.

I agree the best tools make work much more of a pleasure.

But Wrong is right - Coffee lake not out for a long time so the next update can only be minor. Buy the one coming up soon and keep for a while.
 
a) Could ARM have designed something we don’t know about ?

b) Could another company ?

I’m not trying to stoke the fires of rumour, just get some educated responses to talk I hear from other Apple pundits. And yes, I’m waiting for a 15-inch MBP and yes, I want all the ports and 24GB RAM minimum.

Praying Apple don’t sacrifice functionality to skinny design – if they want to make anything thinner and lighter it should be the fugly brick that is :apple: Watch.
You'll be lucky if they offer over 16 to be honest
 
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Unscientific test: I usually have Word, Mail, Photoshop CC and Safari open on my iMac.

Under El Cap, I reliably had 68-70% of my 24GB RAM available.

Under Sierra it’s 45–50%. No doubt Sierra’s memory handling will be improved, but I wouldn’t want a MBP with less than 24GB, and ideally it would have 32GB. (incidentally I added 2 x 8GB RAM chips from Crucial to up the iMac’s supplied paltry 8GB: cost £85/$125).

That Photoshop CC must surely be a RAM hog! Be careful about taking raw memory figures. The active memory and memory pressure are more relevant to performance.

I have 16 GB in my rMBP and never noticed lack of RAM to be much of a problem. Only once did I see full usage when running two data-heavy computational tasks simultaneously in 64-bit apps in Windows and even then the software most likely just used what's available out of convenience and because it could. It didn't suffer any major performance penalty from hitting the memory ceiling so far as I could tell and doubtless having 32 or even 64 GB would've made massive gains in this instance. I don't work with video though so not sure how demanding that is.

I find it's generally only poorly coded and inefficient apps that have problems. Well coded apps should be able to handle themselves gracefully even if they run out of RAM. Heck, there are some people that say FCPX is usable on an 8 GB retina MacBook!

Having said that, at this point and especially if you do a lot of heavy lifting, 32 GB is probably recommended for future-proofing a high-end laptop. I'm happy with my 2015 rMBP but I'll most likely want 32 GB in my next one in a year or two.
 
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That's not how it works on the Mac. Do you seriously see that happening with Adobe CS for example?

Yes it is, and who's said they would ditch Intel Macs? If they never made another Intel Mac you would still be able to buy them for years anyway if you need to run a specific application which isn't supported by any new architecture.
 
Assuming they do send invites on Thursday and have a release the following week (say, the 27th), what's the likelihood they'll actually ship before November? Is it usually fairly immediate for MB releases or does it take a few weeks? I need to have a MBP in hand by 10/31 at the latest and I'd really love for it to be a new model and not a 2015 model.
 
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Assuming they do send invites on Thursday and have a release the following week (say, the 27th), what's the likelihood they'll actually ship before November? Is it usually fairly immediate for MB releases or does it take a few weeks? I need to have a MBP in hand by 10/31 at the latest and I'd really love for it to be a new model and not a 2015 model.
I would say 0% likelihood these ship before November
 
That'll show Apple. Now they get money from you on outdated hardware.

For sure, and its the last thing I want to do. But what is the alternative for those of us on hardware that is on its final leg.

I have been using a 2011 MBA (with a smashed screen) connected to an external monitor, and is getting slower by the day.
 
That Photoshop CC must surely be a RAM hog! Be careful about taking raw memory figures. The active memory and memory pressure are more relevant to performance.

I have 16 GB in my rMBP and never noticed lack of RAM to be much of a problem. Only once did I see full usage when running two data-heavy computational tasks simultaneously in 64-bit apps in Windows and even then the software most likely just used what's available out of convenience and because it could. It didn't suffer any major performance penalty from hitting the memory ceiling so far as I could tell and doubtless having 32 or even 64 GB would've made massive gains in this instance. I don't work with video though so not sure how demanding that is.
It doesn't work like that with most Adobe products, thankfully. The apps themselves, for as long as I can remember as I began using Adobe software during the 4.0 days, was that it had a memory scaling feature. This tied into history states. It wasn't much of an issue in the days of 32 bit programs and not being able to address a whole lot, but it's different now. You can set an Adobe product to constrain itself to however much RAM you'll allow it. I've got 64 GB myself and have mine set to 12 GB with a mere 12 history states, as I don't need a whole lot to go back and fix an error. Even in today's world with SSDs, m.2 or PCI-E SSD, you won't find many using it as a RAM disk over a traditional Caviar Black or a 10-15K drive setup. The amount of data an Adobe program like Photoshop or Premiere or After Effects can do during complex work would put your writes on your SSD to around 30-50 GB a day. If you're a professional, it wouldn't be too hard to write terabytes of data compared to other people.

If I'm editing video I've taken myself from family events, I'll slide the RAM scale up and within a few seconds of encoding a 1080p or higher video, it'll easily use 40 GB of RAM. I've toyed with the idea of setting up a small offload network in my home office with a PC setup up with dual M4000s, but I don't do a lot of video editing and the investment wouldn't be wise in the long run.
 
Long time reader, thought posting here would help because shared agony is better right?

I don't fully get one thing: A keynote on the 27th would be a Thursday.
When has Apple ever done a keynote on a Thursday? All the ones that I can remember off the top of my head were on Tuesday or Wednesday (WWDC being the exception on a Monday).
 
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Long time reader, thought posting here would help because shared agony is better right?

I don't fully get one thing: A keynote on the 27th would be a Thursday.
When has Apple ever done a keynote on a Thursday? All the ones that I can remember off the top of my head were on Tuesday or Wednesday (WWDC being the exception on a Monday).

This years March event was on a Monday also.

They held an event to announce iBooks Author/iTunes U on a Thursday a few years ago, I dont recall any actual hardware announcements but theses no reason why they couldn't.
 
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