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I just enjoy waiting like forever, Apple. Don't mind me, juuuuust take your time....
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:eek: :( o_O
 
Just beeen checking on 3rd party stock levels here in the U.K. The 13" seems available still but some stores are out of all 15" varieties and are missing some MBA models too. Also the 2012 cMBP is unavailable for delivery at the UK's biggest electronics retailer.

Anyone else noticing decreasing availability where they are?
 
Okay guys, it's finally happened. One of us has finally gone literally insane during this wait. That sorry SOB is me.

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(Me hiding my identity and covering my shame)

It's 5:05 AM. I'm siting here at my computer. I haven't slept since 2 days ago. I haven't exited my door in 58 hours. I've eaten 3 1/2 meals since Friday evening. I once had a long and meaningful conversation with another person--oops, no, turns out that was the mirror. Ooh look, now I've drawn pretty pictures on it. I've finished all my work and now I just reread Serban's posts.

What am I doing with my life?

I could be making new friends. I could have gone out for a walk.

But no.

I am here. On the Internet.

Apple....just....Mac me, please.

Like, SERIOUSLY, please.

A new device won't alter the circumstances or conditions of my life. I know this. But DAMMMIT, after all this time I deserve to waste away on a new piece of hardware!
 
You seem overly optimistic ! I guess i lost faith about 3 events ago (and i still remember last year October "no event") :oops:
Same boat and SO pissed that Windows laptops won't even ship with Windows 7 anymore or without stupid touch screens. Hopefully the MBP ships with El capitan after all the bugs I've heard they really should wait with Sierra
 
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Same boat and SO pissed that Windows laptops won't even ship with Windows 7 anymore or without stupid touch screens. Hopefully the MBP ships with El capitan after all the bugs I've heard they really should wait with Sierra

If you still think Windows 7 is better than 10 you have clearly not been paying much attention.

Windows 10 is by far the best Windows ever made.
 
or without stupid touch screens.
Don't knock the touch screen, its a great addition, I use it all the time on my Surface Book. Either with the stylus or with my finger (depending on what I'm doing).

Windows 10 is by far the best Windows ever made.
Agreed, Win10 is a solid stable OS, and I've been pleased with it. OS X, has some advantages, but windows 10 has been great for me.
 
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Again, it baffles me how people generalize over WIN 10 as being "great". The moment you start to dig into the guts of WIN10 because you want to setup a solid backup solution or network, things fall apart. Also the spyfunctions... the incohesive design, scaling and about that touch-screen. I can see people use a touchscreen on a 2-1, foldback or a pure tablet. But on a classic Laptop-design it just sucks. The screen would wobble, it's not ergonomic and I'd be way faster with the trackpad anyways. But that's just me. I don't see the benefit of having a touchscreen and anything more than FULL HD on a 13 Inch Laptop other than draining your battery just for fun.

But having worked with Win10 for a while outside of the "email, facebook, word"-workflow it's as horrendous as it always was.
 
Again, it baffles me how people generalize over WIN 10 as being "great".
I use it everyday and I find it great, why is that so hard to understand? Different strokes for different folks.

The moment you start to dig into the guts of WIN10 because you want to setup a solid backup solution or network, things fall apart.
I've not had one issue with backing up or networking, wifi has worked seamlessly and consistently whether I'm on a public hotspot or my company's secured wifi.

and I'd be way faster with the trackpad anyways.
That's the key word right there - you'd be faster which is fine, but that doesn't mean everyone would be faster, other people prefer or like the touch screen.

But having worked with Win10 for a while outside of the "email, facebook, word"-workflow it's as horrendous as it always was.
What tasks specifically outside of email, facebook and word are horrendous?
[doublepost=1476702145][/doublepost]I will say that scaling is inferior in windows 10, especially compared to OS X, but then there are things in OS X, that are inferior to Windows. No OS is perfect, each has good and bad associated with them
 
Again, it baffles me how people generalize over WIN 10 as being "great". The moment you start to dig into the guts of WIN10 because you want to setup a solid backup solution or network, things fall apart.

Same for macOS, the moment you start to dig into the guts of Sierra, things fall apart.
Not even guts, just basic UNIX:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683334

That doesn't mean Sierra isn't solid for most computing, same with Windows 10.
 
I use it everyday and I find it great, why is that so hard to understand? Different strokes for different folks.


I've not had one issue with backing up or networking, wifi has worked seamlessly and consistently whether I'm on a public hotspot or my company's secured wifi.


That's the key word right there - you'd be faster which is fine, but that doesn't mean everyone would be faster, other people prefer or like the touch screen.


What tasks specifically outside of email, facebook and word are horrendous?
[doublepost=1476702145][/doublepost]I will say that scaling is inferior in windows 10, especially compared to OS X, but then there are things in OS X, that are inferior to Windows. No OS is perfect, each has good and bad associated with them


I'm fine with people liking Windows 10, I just can't grasp it.
By networking I mean not using your laptop in Starbucks but setting up a company-network with different work-groups, users and remote desktops. Also I find the different levels of system settings tiresome. After multiple clicks it looks like you're back in Windows 7 and have different options than what you're usually presented with. When I'm administrator on that machine I should be able to get to the guts of the settings within a few clicks and it should look consistent with the rest of the OS. IMO.

Also I still have that ONE problem on different Windows 10 machines (even different licences) I cannot find how to fix. The tab "recent places" where it shows you where you were saving stuff before or opening stuff from before. It's always empty. This - for me and my special use-case is an absolute dealbreaker as I work with Layouts of huge magazines and catalogues which are tacked together from multiple files, literally hundreds each and every day. When I want to import files into InDesign I often jump directories. Having the "last visited folders" function in MacOS is a HUGE timesaver as I don't have to navigate the whole directory structure each and every time. But on Windows, for WHATEVER reason, the tab "last places" (the thing with the dropdown arrow) always is empty.

I could go on. But I guess everyone's bored already.

If Win10 was any more reliable or had the polish of MacOS I'd be gone. But how things are, I'm locked into the ecosystem... :/
 
Again, it baffles me how people generalize over WIN 10 as being "great". The moment you start to dig into the guts of WIN10 because you want to setup a solid backup solution or network, things fall apart. Also the spyfunctions... the incohesive design, scaling and about that touch-screen. I can see people use a touchscreen on a 2-1, foldback or a pure tablet. But on a classic Laptop-design it just sucks. The screen would wobble, it's not ergonomic and I'd be way faster with the trackpad anyways. But that's just me. I don't see the benefit of having a touchscreen and anything more than FULL HD on a 13 Inch Laptop other than draining your battery just for fun.

But having worked with Win10 for a while outside of the "email, facebook, word"-workflow it's as horrendous as it always was.
Don't forget about Windows updates. I have no intention to upgrade my iMac from win7 to 10. I have heard that win10 automatically updates whenever it feels like it and you can easily lose hours of work if you haven't saved. Win10 has some setting that should prevent it from updating on your "active hours" but sometimes it just ignores it and updates anyway. I myself would have a hard time saying which are my active hours so that would not work too well even if it worked. I just can't imagine working with OS that does things like updates without my consent and sends all kinds of telemetry data to Microsoft. If I have to give up on macOS some day, I'll have to look into linux.
 
By networking I mean not using your laptop in Starbucks but setting up a company-network with different work-groups, users and remote desktops.

Some people just don't use Windows for these tasks i.e. I offload all my networking needs to my trusty Linux server and others have different setups where they don't run into the same problems as you do.

If Win10 was any more reliable or had the polish of MacOS I'd be gone.

As a developer, I'd consider an OS without working curl anything but polished.
It may not matter to you, because you have different use case for macOS than I do, why can't you apply the same logic to Windows 10?
 
Don't forget about Windows updates. I have no intention to upgrade my iMac from win7 to 10. I have heard that win10 automatically updates whenever it feels like it and you can easily lose hours of work if you haven't saved. Win10 has some setting that should prevent it from updating on your "active hours" but sometimes it just ignores it and updates anyway. I myself would have a hard time saying which are my active hours so that would not work too well even if it worked. I just can't imagine working with OS that does things like updates without my consent and sends all kinds of telemetry data to Microsoft. If I have to give up on macOS some day, I'll have to look into linux.

I can warmly recommend Ubuntu Mate. You can easily make it look like Win10, Win7 or MacOS in the settings with just a few clicks. For common computing it's good enough, the OS is stable, fast and comfy to use. Only lack of official software might be a hindrance (if it would have Adobe CC, I'd be gone already).
 
I'm fine with people liking Windows 10, I just can't grasp it.
But that's not what you said, you complained about how people generalize over win 10 as being great which you're clearly inferring that its an inferior OS, I pointed out that's not the case.
Again, it baffles me how people generalize over WIN 10 as being "great".

While you may prefer OS X, other prefer windows, and preference does not mean one is actually better then the other.

By networking I mean not using your laptop in Starbucks but setting up a company-network with different work-groups, users and remote desktops.
Funny thing, is that's what I do all the time, I remote into to my network, manage servers and desktops and I find it problem free.

The tab "recent places" where it shows you where you were saving stuff before or opening stuff from before. It's always empty.
Odd. I can't say that I ran into this issue, I'm not saying its not a valid problem, but one that I've not run into.
 
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