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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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MacBH928 said:
I never understood how this works. In early 2000 I used to browse the internet and it looks pretty much the same, even YouTube was the same except it probably didn't have better quality than 480p. How come it became so intensive?

I remember in late 90's where people would try to minimize images that were like 40kb to be more 10kb so it would load faster.

I heard about this before but I don't believe it. So you have access to a powerful machine that you can do intensive 3D graphics and 4K video editing on a weaker computer like the macbook and it is as if you were running locally? No slow downs, frame drops, ?
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Actually YES. With the speed of cable modems, and LTE, it is very easy to edit files on a remote machine, even with precision. Now you aren't going to be able to use a Stylus on a remote machine, but you get in there and really work.

There will be some lag, if you play back video from the remote machine to your local machine. But you can get a faster connection. Which could help alleviate that. But no I think I did mention if you are a videographer you will have a hard time tho. But I usually just put my machines to work and then leave them to do the task at hand.

Then I come back here for another 250 post UGH...haha

Mr. Dee said:
I guess you were living in a cave when the gen Retina MacBook Pro launched in 2012; even though it was still using a of standard components that Apple used in the conventional MacBook Pro at the time.

- Faulty Retina Displays was a big deal
- Performance issues because of the resources needed to drive that Retina display
- Yellowing of the display was also an issue.

Some of these issues even affected the redesigned iMac when it launched. Even the 2013 revisions of the MacBook Pro continued to experience problems. So my recommendation does have merit.

The last I checked, the MacBook's butterfly keyboard is not great and reviews out there and my own time playing with one would say so.
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- Here is the difference, the MacBook Air and MacBook all use x86 processors. Which means, all desktop macOS software is guaranteed to work, regardless of the brand or model.

- iPhone SE is a 4 inch smartphone, I don't see how that could be confused with a larger iPhone. Its about meeting market demand. A lot persons out there don't like or want 4.7 or 5.5 inch devices.

- iPad Air 2 and iPad Pro, I agree, but the fundamental difference is, they are both the same; they are not using some alternative platform or architecture, they are still iPads. They run the same iOS apps, but there are small distinctions such as Pencil Support, True Tone, better camera, improved display.

An ARM MacBook would be running ARM based version of macOS for which there exist no desktop apps other than those Apple bundle and releases through the App store. Considering how bad the Mac app store is today just for x86, I bet it would be even worse under ARM. Sure, Apple could enable some switch to make iOS apps run out of the box in a windowed mode, but it would still not be macOS x86 that can run traditional desktop apps. The market has proven with the Surface RT, looks like Windows, but can't run Windows software.
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There is only one thing you seem not to have in your memory or recollection...

Apple went from chip to chip:

6502 (Apple //e, among other chips)
68000 (dropping support for 6502)
68020 (leaving 68000 unable to run newer software)
68030 (leaving non PMU guys in the cold)
601 (with emulation for 680xx, but leaving then in the dust with...)
604 (even leaving some 601 in their wake)
G3/G4/G5 (same thing all previous unable to run NEW Wares)
x86 (with PPC emulation)
x64 (leaving 32 bit guys out to dry)

but mainly
6502 to Motorola 680xx to PPC to Intel and now to Arm
why? Experience in making CPU shifts

Microsoft and most PC companies have been with one chip the WHOLE time
ARM was the first time a PC company (Microsoft) even really tried to switch
people over. Believe me they wanted to and thought they had something
cutting edge. But the plain and simple fact was they couldn't cut it...

Apple has proper libraries this time with the OS X frameworks and compilers, to probably make it fun and almost effortless. It's one of their greatest advantages really.

I mean think about this:

If a "new" chip came out and was like 10 times faster and 2 times cooler, wouldn't you want to be able to just SWITCH? and yeah you leave the other chips behind, but this is TECH you have to be able to go from Technology to the next Technology, even if it's a CPU.

It's really just like ADB to USB, SCSI to FireWire, FireWire to Thunderbolt, etc

Just way more encompassing and involved. But Apple hopefully still has some 60 year old guys laying around in the backrooms who can guide some of the younger programers and engineers thru this and pass on the knowledge.

It's needed to simply be the best.

While all of the rest stay on the EOL x86_64 architecture.

The main reason tho, is Apple wants developers to get paid from the App Stores. Minimal Piracy, they want to make bootlegs a thing of the past. For the new generations...

NOTE: I forgot to mention [Making software that required the latest and greatest video chips, leaving prior GPUs to cry and want more] So they have no problem making newer versions of programs older machines can't run... and only newer ones can...
 
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I know the "Press Embargo" theory is the epitome of wishful thinking, but Gruber released his podcast this week and it is nearly TWO HOURS of not talking about macbooks. I'm sorry, but how does anyone THAT involved with Apple not mention the macbook situation at all?

If Gruber, Gurman, etc. aren't under embargo I honestly have no idea what's going on.
 
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thefauxtography said:
I know the "Press Embargo" theory is the epitome of wishful thinking, but Gruber released his podcast this week and it is nearly TWO HOURS of not talking about macbooks. I'm sorry, but how does anyone THAT involved with Apple not mention the macbook situation at all?

If Gruber, Gurman, etc. aren't under embargo I honestly have no idea what's going on.
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I do agree the silence is deafening. It's very odd.
 
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Pleasa Steve can you update MacBook, iMac to Skylake?
 
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meldea said:
I took a look and this doesn't appear to be true.
  • iPhone 7 event: 9 days (August 29 for a September 7 event)
  • 2016 WWDC keynote: 12 days (June 1 for a June 13 for event
  • iPad / iPhone SE event: 11 days (March 10 for a March 21 event)
  • iPhone 6S: 13 days (August 27 for a September 9 event)
If no invite comes tomorrow then we are moving into unusually short lead time for a event on the 27th. Meaning, if we don't hear anything tomorrow, there is probably not an event on the 27th.
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Check for October events, it's always been 7/8 days
 
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How would the election and the earnings call influence the release dates. I somehow feel they will release very soon if at all to stay away from the other events.

Since there is no invite yet I'm pessimistic.
 
Dydegu said:
I can almost taste Tim Cook up on stage in a couple weeks: "Just launching last month, the iPhone 7 blah blah, launching in more countries, our users taking beautiful portraits already, blah blah, iOS 10 adoption rate. Now with AirPods, truly wireless, etc."

Then he launches into, "We haven't forgotten about our bread and butter products. Mac has always been the soul of Apple. And today we have a few exciting things to share with you. First up, the MacBook. Two years ago, we launched the new MacBook. It was an incredible innovation from many different aspects. It embraced our passion for a wireless world. So we asked ourselves... how do we bring this new design to our other products? We haven't forgotten that our customers still love our Air and Pro laptops. First up, the MacBook Pro has always been the perfect balance of portability and raw power. That's why today, we're announcing an all new design. And here it is." *Cue reveal video of the bombest most fire MBP we could have ever imagined* Then Tim walks back on stage holding this work of art. "This... is the new MacBook Pro. We spent a lot of time getting it just right and we think you're going to love it. To tell you all about it, here's Phil Schiller." *thunderous applause*
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We've been through this song and dance before. They say the same crap about EVERY product regardless of how insignificant it is. Pretty sure they said something along the same lines for a $50 NYLON BAND. I know it's going to be good. Otherwise I wouldn't be dropping thousands of dollars on it!
 
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GubbyMan said:
Apple just released the 4:th beta of iOS 10.1 but no new beta of macOS 10.12.1. Could this mean the last macOS beta will be the one that was released Oct 11 and they are already producing the new MBP with it?
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MacOS Sierra has been released on tuesdays so probably tomorrow
 
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andiwm2003 said:
How would the election and the earnings call influence the release dates. I somehow feel they will release very soon if at all to stay away from the other events.

Since there is no invite yet I'm pessimistic.
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I think you're overestimating the importance of this release. Macs are not Apple's star product anymore, likely because consumers don't buy new computers until they really need them. They could easily do a press release instead of an event.
 
Xhakaology said:
Check for October events, it's always been 7/8 days
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A few years ago, Apple was at the 7 or 8 day range for almost all of its media invitations, regardless of the month. So if you're filtering only October events, you are going to get an average of 7/8 days simply because of Apple's older patterns.

In the last two years, invitation lead time has gone up a bit (who knows why), and I think what Apple has done recently is more indicative of how they will approach this event.

Even if we don't see an invite tomorrow, I will of course hold out hope for something on Wednesday or Thursday. Tuesday afternoon is simply when we should start worrying, and Thursday afternoon is the point of no return.
 
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I sold my late-2013 rMBP last month and have been without a laptop ever since.

I have to say not even one of the current offerings appeal to me. rMB is simply too much of a compromise in favor of portability. One single port might just be doable, but failing keyboards on a $1200 laptop is not acceptable. Also, I don't think the performance would be sufficient either.

The MBP feels terribly outdated, and as for the MBA - don't even get me started.

These new laptops can't come soon enough.
 
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I don't think the event invite (if there is one) will mention anything about "waiting," "time," or especially "Skylake."

I bet it will have something to do with the dynamic function row. 3 to 1 odds the word "dynamic" appears somewhere in the invite.
 
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