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what if Apple discounted the whole Mac lineup. (i know that won't happen since iOS development is Mac only but let's imagine). would you buy the current MacBook Pro knowing there won't be a successor?

Nope, I'd find an alternative, sell my iPhone7+ and get the Pixel and just generally start moving away from Apple.
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If refresh includes Broadwell chips this thread continues correct?

I'm kinda hoping that happens now lol. The collective rage will be enough to power this planet for years to come. Stories will be told of this day.
 
This sounds about right. Sell my iPhone 7 Plus and get a Pixel XL and a Dell XPS 15 (kaby lake refresh) or the New Razer Blade.

Yeah, I'm sure Apple sees the value that their ecosystem brings. That ecosystem is primarily between phone/laptop (with a small bonus of the watch). The iPhone/Laptop combo is unrivaled by any competitor. The closest I saw was Microsoft's continuum, but with Windows Phone all but dead that's not likely going to happen.
 
With that word "Hello" on the invite, has nobody speculated whether Adele will be closing out the keynote?!

Hello from the other side
I must have called a thousand times...

(to ask about the new Macbook Pros)

...And it's no secret that the both of us
Are running out of time

(to release / buy new Macbook Pros)
- Hello, Adele


What a message of solidarity that would be. Apple acknowledging the pain we've experienced waiting for so long.

No? Anyone?

;)
 
$2,000 is my spending limit for the 15" with AppleCare. I think this will be possible after tax with student discounts and $100 off with my new Amex, which means the 15" can cost up to $2,200 for that to be feasible. I was originally going to do a 13", but after landing a summer internship that's my reward lol.

Definitely going to do classic silver, never had a Mac before and want to experience that classic feel.
How are you getting 100$ off on the Amex card? I just got mine in august for this purchase
 
Yeah, I'm sure Apple sees the value that their ecosystem brings. That ecosystem is primarily between phone/laptop (with a small bonus of the watch). The iPhone/Laptop combo is unrivaled by any competitor. The closest I saw was Microsoft's continuum, but with Windows Phone all but dead that's not likely going to happen.
I would absolutely love if iMessage was available for Windows. I use iMessage a lot on my Mac. It is so much better than texting on your phone.
 
I would absolutely love if iMessage was available for Windows. I use iMessage a lot on my Mac. It is so much better than texting on your phone.

Here in Europe we mostly use whatsapp for texting, not iMessage (actually I dont know anybody who uses iMessage) and u can use whatsapp on Windows or Mac. Don't know why Apple need to have a personal texting app just for them, you cant communicate with other devices with Android? (Don't really know how it works)
 
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With that word "Hello" on the invite, has nobody speculated whether Adele will be closing out the keynote?!

Hello from the other side
I must have called a thousand times...

(to ask about the new Macbook Pros)

...And it's no secret that the both of us
Are running out of time

(to release / buy new Macbook Pros)
- Hello, Adele


What a message of solidarity that would be. Apple acknowledging the pain we've experienced waiting for so long.

No? Anyone?

;)

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again


- Simon & Garfunkel

That's how I think about the invites and the wait.:p
 
When you buy the "3 years" you get 3 years from the purchase date regardless of when you tack it onto the original 1 year.

Same with the 4 years if you're talking about the special university apple care program.
What's the special university apple care program and how do I get it ?
 
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I have a 2012 with dGPU and have never had problems. With that said, DON'T buy one anyway ... so I can get one faster!

The 2012 MBP had a nVidia 650M which never had the well documented issues (including Apple extending the warranties) that the 8600M and 6750M had. Anyway, I was (mostly) being facetious about my suggestion to not buy one with a dgpu.
 
Here in Europe we mostly use whatsapp for texting, not iMessage (actually I dont know anybody who uses iMessage) and u can use whatsapp on Windows or Mac. Don't know why Apple need to have a personal texting app just for them, you cant communicate with other devices with Android? (Don't really know how it works)
Meh, WhatsApp is huge spyware. Avoid at all costs. Better is Signal or iMessage, since Apple's privacy is better than Facebook. And btw those Pixel phones are also just logging devices. I really wonder why people want every facet of their lives stored at Google and Facebook.
 
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Here in Europe we mostly use whatsapp for texting, not iMessage (actually I dont know anybody who uses iMessage) and u can use whatsapp on Windows or Mac. Don't know why Apple need to have a personal texting app just for them, you cant communicate with other devices with Android? (Don't really know how it works)
iMessage is amazing. As long as you have wifi you can text anyone on the Apple platform. I understand whatsapp and how convenient it is, but with iMessage on my Mac I can even text Android users as long as my phone is connected to the same wifi network. It's just really convenient.
 
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Here in Europe we mostly use whatsapp for texting, not iMessage (actually I dont know anybody who uses iMessage) and u can use whatsapp on Windows or Mac. Don't know why Apple need to have a personal texting app just for them, you cant communicate with other devices with Android? (Don't really know how it works)
Hmmm...Europe's a big place. In Sweden, Apple is king. I have about 5 contacts in my phone that I can't iMessage with.
 
Meh, WhatsApp is huge spyware. Avoid at all costs. Better is Signal or iMessage, since Apple's privacy is better than Facebook. And btw those Pixel phones are also just logging devices. I really wonder why people want every facet of their lives stored at Google and Facebook.

Unless your entire post is sarcasm that is some of the most uninformed **** i have read over here.
 
Last time I was this hyped was three years ago ahead of the launch of Mac Pro 2013. My F5 key took a pounding for a couple of months until December 19, 2013 when the Apple Store finally made MPs available for order. My F5 key got worn down even more as I checked to see if my credit card had been charged and if it had shipped, and I finally received my Mac Pro on January 31, 2014. My F5 key was just a blob of plastic by that stage. Hoping for a much shorter timescale before I get my hands on a MBP 16!

It seems almost certain that the new Macs will be ARM-based. To bring the thoughts I have read and my own together:

(1) Apple has neglected to update its entire Mac line apart from the rMB when it could have very easily done so with Intel CPUs over the last couple of years.
(2) Touch ID is promoted as relying on a "secure enclave" which ARM CPUs have but Intel CPUs do not.
(3) Apple already describes ARM CPUs as "desktop class" and we know from the iPhone 7 that the Axx series now scales to four cores so could potentially scale much further.
(4) Switching to ARM enables Apple to decouple its launch windows going forward from Intel CPU releases, so as to avoid it been benchmarked against the PC industry generally and not face criticism for not updating its line at intervals essentially determined by Intel (the basis of this very thread on Macrumors!).
(5) Intel CPUs have improved negligibly over the last few years, whereas Axx CPUs have done so very radically, and without the need for active cooling.
(6) Reference to ARM CPUs was included in the public version of macOS Sierra as of a month ago (why do that now and indeed why change the name from OSX to macOS at this time?).
(7) Apple Store submissions are no longer CPU architecture dependent, so developers do not need to convert their code or rely on Rosetta 2.0.
(8) Switching to ARM inherently block x86 apps downloaded from outside the App Store which could contain malware.
(9) Folks who currently sell their Apps outside the App store could start selling them via the App Store to make them ARM compatible, so not necessarily a huge issue generally (of course there are exceptions).
(10) Could allow iOS Apps and Games to run natively (and sync with) your Mac, which could be quite fun and potentially allow a purchase of an App in the Apple store to be universal across iOS and macOS if Apple could be so charitable.
(11) Apple has never really cared about how well Windows runs in as VM or on bootcamp.
(12) ARM is more power efficient, enabling Apple to shrink the battery or further extend battery life.
(13) "Hello" in Apple parlance has traditionally accompanied a very significant change and none of the other rumored changes seem significant enough to me.
(14) There isn't a number 14.

Steve Job's "It's True" presentation announcing the switch from PowerPC to Intel is one of my favorites of all time (and I made the mistake of buying a PowerMac just half a year before, and I'm not making that mistake again!). I'm expecting something similar a week today and looking forward to it!
As much as I'm scared of the adjustment period for software developers, I'll be really excited if Apple goes ARM and does it right.
 
Meh, WhatsApp is huge spyware. Avoid at all costs. Better is Signal or iMessage, since Apple's privacy is better than Facebook. And btw those Pixel phones are also just logging devices. I really wonder why people want every facet of their lives stored at Google and Facebook.
It's actually not an option, in messaging apps you use what everybody uses. I can get iMessage but I won't be able to talk with anybody.

IMessage only works with wifi?? Then is absolutly not a good option for me.
 
Question - If the new MBP display is still LED LCD, will we notice a significant difference between that and the OLED Magic Toolbar while using the machine? Like to the point where it would bother your eyes? I've never had anything with an OLED display...
 
Did you ever try escalating the issue through Apple and talking to a higher up? That's how they swapped out my white MacBook out of warranty for chipping issue they all had. 3 fixes and on the 4th I asked if I could get a new computer. Talked to a few people and they approved it.

Yup...escalated it at three different retail locations, with three different supervisors/managers got the same answer each time. I even called Applecare on the phone to see if they would do anything. Trust me, I tried. I read all the forums to see what made my case different than others getting replaced and, to this day, I still don't know. Maybe I smell funny? :oops:

That event made me switch from iOS to Android and from OSX to Windows (albeit temporarily). But, as time passed I've learned to move on and here I am waiting for another MBP lol. This time I'll just stick with the iGPU and get my own eGPU.
 
Question - If the new MBP display is still LED LCD, will we notice a significant difference between that and the OLED Magic Toolbar while using the machine? Like to the point where it would bother your eyes? I've never had anything with an OLED display...

No you really wouldn't. I'm using an OLED device everyday (Nexus 6P) and an IPS monitor. Movies do look better on OLED because of the blacks but you wouldn't watch movies on you toolbar.
 
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Meh, WhatsApp is huge spyware. Avoid at all costs. Better is Signal or iMessage, since Apple's privacy is better than Facebook. And btw those Pixel phones are also just logging devices. I really wonder why people want every facet of their lives stored at Google and Facebook.

It's hilarious that people will rip Google devices not realizing that some iCloud services are running on Google and Amazon servers. If you don't understand how encryption works then don't bring it up.
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Unless your entire post is sarcasm that is some of the most uninformed **** i have read over here.

You must be new here. Lots of posts with unsubstantiated drivel when it comes to Google here.
 
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It's hilarious that people will rip Google devices not realizing that some iCloud services are running on Google and Amazon servers. If you don't understand how encryption works then don't bring it up.
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You must be new here. Lots of posts with unsubstantiated drivel when it comes to Google here.
They forgot about the fappening and iCloud...
 
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