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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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senthor said:
I'm sorry to disappoint, but your 13" non retina i7 has no quad. It has hyperthreading, but is dual core.
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My whole life is a lie. And i'm so dumb. Anyway i'm ready to welcome the new 13" i7 :)

EDIT: i hope there will be a 13" i7 version. Today only 13" i5 are available.
Yeah, i am not updated at all about new macs and stuff.
 
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Mr. Hawk said:
My whole life is a lie. And i'm so dumb. Anyway i'm ready to welcome the new 13" i7 :)

EDIT: i hope there will be a 13" i7 version. Today only 13" i5 are available.
Yeah, i am not updated at all about new macs and stuff.
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The current 13" MBPs can still be configured to have i7 processors.
 
Baldrake said:
Well, three reasons off the top of my head - heat, battery life, fan noise. MBP's are all about balance.
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Spot on. A lot of people seem to miss the point on this. They won't put anything in it that will kill the battery life. Same reason why we've got < 1080p displays on the iPhone.
 
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Baldrake said:
Sorry, but doing this on a touchpad would be awful.
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Y tho?


No, honestly, I don't see how it would be that much different than a normal graphics tablet. There's still enough palmrest-space left on either side to comfortably place your hand while writing/drawing.
 
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Hey guys, just a few questions:

1. How long after the announcement do we expect the Macbook Pros to go on sale?

2. Are we expecting an increase in price? Or will the entry model 15 inch still be $2000?

3. How long does the shipping usually take after you place your order?

I'm still running on a 2011 Macbook Air and can't wait to get a much more powerful machine, as I will be going into college next year for engineering and that will be crucial!
 
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onVacation said:
Y tho?


No, honestly, I don't see how it would be that much different than a normal graphics tablet. There's still enough palmrest-space left on either side to comfortably place your hand while writing/drawing.
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  1. The touchpad is too small. Graphics tablets map to the display 1:1, and so you'd be frustrated trying to micro-position the stylus where you wanted it.
  2. Graphics tablets (e.g., Wacom) use a hover mode to move the mouse pointer. I may be wrong, but I don't thin the pencil supports that - you actually have to touch.
  3. Mac apps are designed for mouse, not stylus. Developers would have to write in pencil support. Microsoft has shown what a dog's breakfast this turns out to be.
My take on this anyway...
 
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Rob_2811 said:
Spot on. A lot of people seem to miss he point on this. They put anything in it that will kill the battery life. Same reason why we've got < 1080p displays on the iPhone.
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this exactly. I see zero reason for having a higher resolution than my iPhone 6s at 750p. any higher resolution will just decrease battery life greatly while providing minimal benefits. this is the same with the macs.
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still don't know why a 13in MacBook is happening since it's only 1 in larger than the 12in
 
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Rob_2811 said:
a 13 inch version of the Macbook seems really strange.
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It's probably 14. But the supply chain prolly mistook it for 13.

Makes sense for a 12,13,14,15 lineup lol.

I might consider a 14" rMB, if it has a 15W i7 processor or the "X" version of the A10 Fusion, 14 hours battery life, and is fanless.
Not happening though lol.
 
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Baldrake said:
  1. The touchpad is too small. Graphics tablets map to the display 1:1, and so you'd be frustrated trying to micro-position the stylus where you wanted it.
  2. Graphics tablets (e.g., Wacom) use a hover mode to move the mouse pointer. I may be wrong, but I don't thin the pencil supports that - you actually have to touch.
  3. Mac apps are designed for mouse, not stylus. Developers would have to write in pencil support. Microsoft has shown what a dog's breakfast this turns out to be.
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Alright, I see where you're coming from, BUT:

  1. The "hope" for this feature is based on the assumption that the new trackpad will be much bigger (something like what we saw on those renders). I've (succesfully) used the Intuos Pro S (active area 6" x 4") with a 27" 1440p screen, so the new trackpad should be enough for 13" or 15".
  2. That's a good point, I didn't think about that. However, I do think that this could be implemented in the trackpad itself without additional hardware for the Pencil. I could be wrong, though.
  3. I don't get this. The Pencil would (or at least should) just work like your mouse (/finger), just more precise, so it's easier to write (Evernote, OneNote or whatever) or draw (PS, etc.). I don't think any "writing in pencil support" is necessary. The problem with the Surface line is that Windows is designed to be used with a mouse and doesn't work too well when used as a touchscreen device with just your finger. (At least I can't remember having any trouble using the Surface Pen).
 
Uni Grad said:
It's probably 14. But the supply chain prolly mistook it for 13.

Makes sense for a 12,13,14,15 lineup lol.

I'm glad this is happening cause if the OLED bar ends up being a total failure, then I'll just buy the 14 rMacBook in exchange for losing power.
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I could see a 12/14 MB with just a couple USB-C ports. Then a 13/15 MBP with a couple USB-C and a couple TB3, with higher CPU/memory/storage capabilities.
 
onVacation said:
Alright, I see where you're coming from, BUT:

  1. The "hope" for this feature is based on the assumption that the new trackpad will be much bigger (something like what we saw on those renders). I've (succesfully) used the Intuos Pro S (active area 6" x 4") with a 27" 1440p screen, so the new trackpad should be enough for 13" or 15".
  2. That's a good point, I didn't think about that. However, I do think that this could be implemented in the trackpad itself without additional hardware for the Pencil. I could be wrong, though.
  3. I don't get this. The Pencil would (or at least should) just work like your mouse (/finger), just more precise, so it's easier to write (Evernote, OneNote or whatever) or draw (PS, etc.). I don't think any "writing in pencil support" is necessary. The problem with the Surface line is that Windows is designed to be used with a mouse and doesn't work too well when used as a touchscreen device with just your finger. (At least I can't remember having any trouble using the Surface Pen).
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Regarding #3, I see the same issue with macOS. It's just not designed for touch/pencil support. But that's not to say that it wouldn't work for specific apps (like Photoshop).
 
onVacation said:
Alright, I see where you're coming from, BUT:

I don't get this. The Pencil would (or at least should) just work like your mouse (/finger), just more precise, so it's easier to write (Evernote, OneNote or whatever) or draw (PS, etc.). I don't think any "writing in pencil support" is necessary. The problem with the Surface line is that Windows is designed to be used with a mouse and doesn't work too well when used as a touchscreen device with just your finger. (At least I can't remember having any trouble using the Surface Pen).
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not to hijack this but I think I can answer your third point. What the guy was probably trying to say is that currently apps on the mac are designed for keyboard and mouse input. The software it self doesn't support any other methods of input (unless it's a graphics app and there's support for graphics tablets). Even if there were support for graphics tablets it wouldn't be fully compatible with the Apple Pencil as the tech would have minor differences that require extra lines of code to be written.

Apps like AstroPad (from what I understand) use the native drivers on the iPad to translate that to fairly precise input on the mac. So all in all, there will be a bit of a teething issue in the beginning but once it's fully supported then it should be fine.
 
Yeah, I don't understand what this MBA update is going to be. Is it going to be cheaper than the 12" MB? Is it going to have a retina display? Is it going to be significantly thinner than the 13" MBP? I don't really see where it could fit in, even considering multiple possibilities. But we'll find out...
 
any chance that 13" MBA/rMB could be actually a 14" ? as in... the current 13" measures at 13.3, what if it's 13.9"? still is technically '13'
 
what I don't understand is why people want pencil support for a MacBook. I feel typing is so much faster than drawing on a small surface area.
 
My guess is Schiller takes to the stage and explains how he and Serban agonised over the design of the new Macbook cuts to a video of Jony Ive explaining how the new model is unapologetically an inch bigger than last years model (Still only one port) cuts back to Schiller who's all like..










*Crowd goes absolutely wild*
 
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Ming rumors:
Our new predictions also include: (1) Intel’s (US) Skylake processor; (2) the same panel resolution but better display quality and energy efficiency thanks to an oxide panel; (3) a new option of 2TB SSD storage capacity; (4) adoption of a similar processor as Apple Watch to control the OLED touch bar more energy-efficiently in the new MacBook Pro models; and (5) a Type-C & MagSafe-like adapter rolled out by Apple or a third-party supplier, given positive reviews for the MagSafe charging design.
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  1. Finally! First time we have rumors that it really is a Skylake processor we are waiting for.
  2. Too bad it's the same panel resolution, I wanted at least 2100x3360. :(
  3. 2TB option!! Hopefully, 1TB is a lot cheaper.
  4. Similar processor as Apple Watch to control the touch bar is interesting.
  5. Hopefully, that MagSafe-like adapter is included.
 
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GubbyMan said:
Ming rumors:


  1. Finally! First time we have rumors that it really is a Skylake processor we are waiting for.
  2. Too bad it's the same panel resolution, I wanted at least 2100x3360. :(
  3. 2TB option!! Hopefully, 1TB is a lot cheaper.
  4. Similar processor as Apple Watch to control the touch bar is interesting.
  5. Hopefully, that MagSafe-like adapter is included.
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Wheres that taken from?

The 2TB SSD is guaranteed to be unapologetically five grand :eek:

EDIT: just seen the front page article
 
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Mkondrak said:
what I don't understand is why people want pencil support for a MacBook. I feel typing is so much faster than drawing on a small surface area.
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Have you ever tried typing in diagrams, structural formulas or matrices? The latter does work with Latex, but it's a pain in the a**, especially if you have to correct something.

Having a laptop that supports proper stylus input without needing a big Wacom tablet, an iPad with AstroPad or anything like that would be nice.
 
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