Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[EnesM]

I'm so nervous. Please surprise us, Apple. I hope the machine is a beast.

There's been way too much hype. That's why people are starting to feel disappointed even before they've seen the keynote...

I honestly don't know what have people expected all this time. A miracle? It's an update to Apple's laptop series, that's all there is to it.

 

[ihatetoregister]

you, me and everyone - you just don't see the potential of incredible usability improvement. Watchout 6-12 month ahead - and all other PC's will have this bar too.

This guy here, he's right. It's going to be everywhere. Also, since it's OLED, there shouldn't be a concern over battery life.

 

[ssong]

There's been way too much hype. That's why people are starting to feel disappointed even before they've seen the keynote...

I honestly don't know what have people expected all this time. A miracle? It's an update to Apple's laptop series, that's all there is to it.

That alone is a miracle and enough to have me excited, albeit worried as well with the fear that Apple may seem boring compared to MS

 

[blackberrycubed]

This guy here, he's right. It's going to be everywhere. Also, since it's OLED, there shouldn't be a concern over battery life.

how about oled screen burnin ?????

 

[Baldrake]

How do you type on glass? iPad or iPhone in landscape? do you slap your fingers down or do you adapt to what you're used to? You'll get used to it over time.
I tried out the keyboard a few times over the last year and didn't like it the first time around. Second time i took a little more time and tried the macbook->magic keyboard back and forth for an hour and i actually like the low travel. Felt quick after i got used to it and i was typing really fast on it.
I don't think it will be an issue for most people after a week.

I sure as heck don't touch-type on an iPad. I'm much slower and make way more errors than with a proper keyboard. Not the most convincing argument, I'm afraid.

 

[x-evil-x]

That's not quite correct. While it in fact has been designed to allow for shallower keyboards, there's nothing that precludes them to build a butterfly mechanism keyboard with more key travel. The only question is whether that would really be necessary, but there are arguments for using it instead of the scissor mechanism, like reduced "wobble" and an increased stiffness, that would make it worthwhile.
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It still was an issue on the rMB for many, many people after several weeks and months.

If its an issue for up to the return period then people should return it. I know me personally i liked it after an hour. A week with one and i wouldn't want to go back.

 

[MarcBou]

In the last couple of years Microsoft showed to be innovative, today I liked their new line. The Surface is very beautiful and versatile, Apple now has to fight them. Tomorrow is the great day (the "D-DAY") and Apple will show its machines to contrast Microsoft's products.
The fight seems very interesting... Please Apple don't disappoint us.
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No 15" laptop? For a lot of us a 13" machine is not an option, so even if it was great I wouldnt buy it instead a 15" MBP (I've allways had Windows computers, this will be my first Mac laptop)

Also, 3200$ for 13,5" and 16Gb of RAM?? Seriously??

 

[ianmcqueen]

I just saw the Surface Studio and was pretty amazed. Any Mac consumer should be happy that this much competition is being introduced to the market.

But then I saw the OLED touch bar and new MBP concepts and was like, "Yeah. These will still be better."

 

[Janichsan]

If its an issue for up to the return period then people should return it.

Which in fact many people did.

 

[Speechless]

There's been way too much hype. That's why people are starting to feel disappointed even before they've seen the keynote...

I honestly don't know what have people expected all this time. A miracle? It's an update to Apple's laptop series, that's all there is to it.

I agree.
I was never really knowledgeable on processing specs/graphics. This thread taught me A LOT about it all. I'll be upgrading from an early 2013 rMBP which has caused me many many problems this past year. I'm really just hoping to see a huge speed improvement from the 8GB of RAM/256GB of Storage/Intel HD Graphics Mac I already have. I feel like that asking for too much though.. which is why I'm a little nervous.

 

[x-evil-x]

I sure as heck don't touch-type on an iPad. I'm much slower and make way more errors than with a proper keyboard. Not the most convincing argument, I'm afraid.

Im not talking about touch typing on a glass screen I'm talking about how much force you use when using a glass screen. With the macbook keyboard you still get feedback so you can touch type on it. It still feels like a real keyboard not glass. But you adjust your level of force depending on what your typing on is all I'm saying. You won't be slamming down as hard on a lower travel keyboard as with the standard scissor keyboard.

 

[ihatetoregister]

how about oled screen burnin ?????

Shouldn't be an issue. First, this happens mainly on LED and Plasma, and second, since the icon are contextual, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

[Baltimoron]

As a writer, this flitter-flutter keyboard may be a deal-breaker for me. I'll be listening to reviews (from you my esteemed peers as well as the credentialed media,) and I'll do some first-hand testing (pun intended!), but it sounds like this simply won't work for actual "pros" who type many hundreds of words in a sitting. Actually, NaNoWriMo might provide a good field test as thousands of people hammer away on new Macbook Pros all month. Will be interesting.

 

[Speechless]

I see A LOT of posts about the butterfly keyboard in here..is it really that bad?

 

[DSTOFEL]

I wish there was a i5, 256gb, 16gb ram, integrated gpu, same battery life for $1600. then I might consider. base $2399 is way over my price range.

There are some deals to be had on the current i5 models. I just picked up (ie 2 weeks ago) the Surface Book (i5, 256GB, 8GB ram and NVidia discrete graphics card model) for $1,250 from Best Buy (ie the model that lists for $1,899). Saved another $100 on the 2 year accidental damage/extended GS warranty (ie $279 down to $179). So, $1,429 all in.

Now, I had to use a combination of price matches and promotional deals available at the time...but the deals are there if you work them. Granted, mine is 1 year old tech now and I didn't get the new updated battery life just announced today for the i7 model. But, at this price, I can keep it for a while and sell/upgrade to a refreshed model when I come across another great deal.

At the "list" prices, the SB's are a tough sell (for me anyway). But if you can work a deal.....

 

[ugru]

Shouldn't be an issue. First, this happens mainly on LED and Plasma, and second, since the icon are contextual, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

On the contrary...this happens on PLASMA and OLED. LED panels (being simply a LCD with LED retro illumination) are pratically immune. It is a problem of light emitting pixels technology.

Being the icons contextual, on the other hand, you are correct to say it is a very limited issue...

 

[xmonkey]

Really digging the new Surface products, but woah at those prices. The i7 Surface Book is just way too much money.

The AIO PC is expensive, but the comparable Cintiq product is almost as much and that doesn't include a PC so if you're in that market it's kind of a value.

 

[Baldrake]

Im not talking about touch typing on a glass screen I'm talking about how much force you use when using a glass screen. With the macbook keyboard you still get feedback so you can touch type on it. It still feels like a real keyboard not glass. But you adjust your level of force depending on what your typing on is all I'm saying. You won't be slamming down as hard on a lower travel keyboard as with the standard scissor keyboard.

I don't want to get into an internet argument, especially when we're going to know more tomorrow.

But I realize that you have to adjust the force you use. That was my point. It's hard to get it just right. Too light and you miss keys, too hard and you hurt your fingers. I have used the rMB keyboard and my take-away is that this makes it impossible (for me at least) to touch-type.

 

[snowboardpunk]

The aio seems amazing but I need a laptop and the surface book seems disappointing? I'm always thinking of making the switch to windows because of revit. But the new surfacebook doesn't offer 32 gb ram and the i7 is a 15watt i7? And not sure how powerful the dgpu is or is going to be compared to the 15 rMBP. AND it costs more. Is it just me or does it seem the rMBP still seems like the way to go?

I do know their two different sizes and I do prefer the 13 in. But would rather have a more powerful laptop

 

[volcomvenom]

Really digging the new Surface products, but woah at those prices. The i7 Surface Book is just way too much money.

The AIO PC is expensive, but the comparable Cintiq product is almost as much and that doesn't include a PC so if you're in that market it's kind of a value.

It kind of reminds me of Google's greed with their new Pixel phones (I am talking about the high prices).

 

[jjiangweilan]

Even in Windows, I don't really use esc key, but I do use Del

 

[idark77]

No 15" laptop? For a lot of us a 13" machine is not an option, so even if it was great I wouldnt buy it instead a 15" MBP (I've allways had Windows computers, this will be my first Mac laptop)

Also, 3200$ for 13,5" and 16Gb of RAM?? Seriously??

That was just my opinion, if you don't like -> don't buy!!!

 

[volcomvenom]

The aio seems amazing but I need a laptop and the surface book seems disappointing? I'm always thinking of making the switch to windows because of revit. But the new surfacebook doesn't offer 32 gb ram and the i7 is a 15watt i7? And not sure how powerful the dgpu is or is going to be compared to the 15 rMBP. AND it costs more. Is it just me or does it seem the rMBP still seems like the way to go?

No DOUBT in my mind!

 

[Paapaa]

I see A LOT of posts about the butterfly keyboard in here..is it really that bad?

I've read a lot of MacBook reviews where the keyboard first felt a bit odd but later on the reviewer actually prefers it to the old keyboard. But there is of course a "learning curve". I guess some people hate that curve...

 

[Sheppard]

just one question from Germany:
I sold my 2012 rMBP 3 months ago and want to get the new one tommorrow. What do you think is the best way to order? Apple Online Store with Delivery or with Pickup in Local Apple Store (~80km). I miss my Mac so much and want to get it as quick as possible. In three weeks I gonna travel to Dubai for work and want to have the new MBP with me.
Kindly wish you all a nice and exciting keynote tommorrow and thanks for further helpful replies.
Snuggi

If I was you, I would buy one in Dubai when you landed. Much cheaper!