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I have learned a life lesson today.

I was a man of principle, going all in on only one ecosystem at a time. First I went with Google, ditched them for their privacy crap and lack of consistence. Then I went Microsoft, ditched them because of pretty promises but head smacking anger inducing implementations. Last I went Apple, the holy grail so I thought. Finally an ecosystem with privacy and stuff that works pretty well. But today I felt cheated again. Unreasonable prices, unreasonable gimmicky touchbar, unreasonable low outdated internals, no price drop or even higher price for 2 year old hardware. Dongles, dongles, dongles.

Oh yes I learned a hard lesson. So many years I was an avid technology enthusiast. So many hours wasted comparing everything. So many days wasted reading, writing and researching.
In the end though, those 3 tech giants?
They can all go **** themselves.
 
I've been using XPS 15 (4k, quad core Skylake, 16GB) for the last 6 months for work, and from my experience:

Pros
Amazing screen picture quality
Super thin bezel
Decent performance
Nice design

Cons
Terrible keyboard (very shallow, little resistance)
Battery life average at best
Some windows software has scaling issues with 4k, so you might end up setting the screen res down to full hd
The dark palm rest gets visibly dirty immediately and is impossible to clean
I've been using XPS 15 (4k, quad core Skylake, 16GB) for the last 6 months for work, and from my experience:

But for more than €1000 less, it's worth it right? I video edit a lot (4k but downscaled) so I think for the price it's really good.
 
I got it to work by starting over. Don't add anything to your bag until you've applied the credit.
Awesome! I called them up and got approved, got my edu credit added, and now I'm waiting on this:
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Not what I set out to get, but, mama just can't justify an extra thousand+ and I'm not gonna buy the 15" if it wasn't maxed out. I think now that I'm a more casual pro user, this will be perfect for me. :)
 
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The base 13" with Touch Bar is my absolute limit moneywise.

If I can't afford 16 GB would you tell me to better buy a different brand? I want it to last me five years. I guess I will laugh about 8 GB in five years, right?
 
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Can we all talk about how so many of you sh***** on the Chinese guy from the chinese forums who said that there will be a new Macbook Pro with 2 USB-C(Thunderbolt 3 USB-C form factor) ports, and with no OLED touchbar?

Turns out he is Right after all, and it's nice to be skeptical, but not to the point where you blatantly call someone a fraud just because he was passing on information that people on the Chinese forum were talking about.
 
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I have learned a life lesson today.

I was a man of principle, going all in on only one ecosystem at a time. First I went with Google, ditched them for their privacy crap and lack of consistence. Then I went Microsoft, ditched them because of pretty promises but head smacking anger inducing implementations. Last I went Apple, the holy grail so I thought. Finally an ecosystem with privacy and stuff that works pretty well. But today I felt cheated again. Unreasonable prices, unreasonable gimmicky touchbar, unreasonable low outdated internals, no price drop or even higher price for 2 year old hardware. Dongles, dongles, dongles.

Oh yes I learned a hard lesson. So many years I was an avid technology enthusiast. So many hours wasted comparing everything. So many days wasted reading, writing and researching.
In the end though, those 3 tech giants?
They can all go **** themselves.

Pretty much my thoughts. I'm thinking about slowly breaking off from Apple's ecosystem a little bit of a time. Might have a mix of brands in my life. The Apple bubble is bursting, they're just not on top anymore.
 
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Awesome! I called them up and got approved, got my edu credit added, and now I'm waiting on this:
14882320_1323953167648876_5047229559067118047_o.jpg

Not what I set out to get, but, mama just can't justify an extra thousand+ and I'm not gonna buy the 15" if it wasn't maxed out. I think now that I'm a more casual pro user, this will be perfect for me. :)

Every product release, every forum thread. There's always a handful of people who bought something they didn't want because they didn't want to wait longer/save more/the prices were higher than expected. Aha.
 
I have learned a life lesson today.

I was a man of principle, going all in on only one ecosystem at a time. First I went with Google, ditched them for their privacy crap and lack of consistence. Then I went Microsoft, ditched them because of pretty promises but head smacking anger inducing implementations. Last I went Apple, the holy grail so I thought. Finally an ecosystem with privacy and stuff that works pretty well. But today I felt cheated again. Unreasonable prices, unreasonable gimmicky touchbar, unreasonable low outdated internals, no price drop or even higher price for 2 year old hardware. Dongles, dongles, dongles.

Oh yes I learned a hard lesson. So many years I was an avid technology enthusiast. So many hours wasted comparing everything. So many days wasted reading, writing and researching.
In the end though, those 3 tech giants?
They can all go **** themselves.

Well then, we should all get together and open a tech company, and create the ultimate computer that we want lol.


Theres at least a good 150 of us.
 
I have learned a life lesson today.

I was a man of principle, going all in on only one ecosystem at a time. First I went with Google, ditched them for their privacy crap and lack of consistence. Then I went Microsoft, ditched them because of pretty promises but head smacking anger inducing implementations. Last I went Apple, the holy grail so I thought. Finally an ecosystem with privacy and stuff that works pretty well. But today I felt cheated again. Unreasonable prices, unreasonable gimmicky touchbar, unreasonable low outdated internals, no price drop or even higher price for 2 year old hardware. Dongles, dongles, dongles.

Oh yes I learned a hard lesson. So many years I was an avid technology enthusiast. So many hours wasted comparing everything. So many days wasted reading, writing and researching.
In the end though, those 3 tech giants?
They can all go **** themselves.
get the best of all worlds ;)
 
But for more than €1000 less, it's worth it right? I video edit a lot (4k but downscaled) so I think for the price it's really good.

Yes, for this difference in price the XPS 15 is definitely worth it, if they were at the same price I would go with the Macbook Pro, but apple went crazy with pricing, especially without the 32GB option.
 
According to CNET, the keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the 12" rMB.

That is gonna annoy some people:

While the keyboard on the new MacBook Pro models have the same shallow key travel (an industry term for the distance the key moves downward to register an input) as the version on the 12-inch MacBook, the new "feel" of the keys, and how they register a click gives the keyboard a more substantial feel. In a brief typing test I was struck by how much the keyboard felt like the one on a 12-inch MacBook, and how unlike the current generation of MacBook Pros it felt. You lose that satisfying feeling of your fingers being on big, chunky keys that click down with a satisfying thunk. Instead, typing becomes a quieter, more subtle task.


https://www.cnet.com/products/apple-macbook-pro-with-touch-bar-13-inch-2016/preview/
 
Really?

I'll pay it gladly for the smaller form factor, lower weight, wider gamut monitor, brighter monitor, and 4 x TB3!

Meh, marginally smaller form factor and slightly lighter for a computer that's supposed to rest on your lap/desk most of the time, I wouldn't really care. Additional ports is nice but it probably cost Apple $5 to add them in.

You're pretty much paying $500 extra for the touch bar and the overdue performance boost that the MBP lineup hadn't seen in 1.5 years.
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According to CNET, the keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the 12" rMB.

That is gonna annoy some people:

While the keyboard on the new MacBook Pro models have the same shallow key travel (an industry term for the distance the key moves downward to register an input) as the version on the 12-inch MacBook, the new "feel" of the keys, and how they register a click gives the keyboard a more substantial feel. In a brief typing test I was struck by how much the keyboard felt like the one on a 12-inch MacBook, and how unlike the current generation of MacBook Pros it felt. You lose that satisfying feeling of your fingers being on big, chunky keys that click down with a satisfying thunk. Instead, typing becomes a quieter, more subtle task.


https://www.cnet.com/products/apple-macbook-pro-with-touch-bar-13-inch-2016/preview/


That's expected tbh. What else did people think they were getting?
I wonder how the keyboard will hold up against intensive gaming or heavy usage.

I know the 12" MB has a lot of issues with its low travel keyboard, a lot of people ended up with jammed/sticky keys.
The outgoing MBP's keyboard is a lot better IMO.
 
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