Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[senthor]

Wow, I'm unhappy. It looks great, I like the Touchbar, the weight and sizes are perfect. But I can't afford one, or more I don't want to. Those base specs are just wildly 2012, and the prices for realistic configurations are absurd. :/



Also, to people looking at the function row one: it's not the same except for the bar. It's a glorified Air.

no Touchbar -> 15W CPU
22% slower than last years model

The specs show that the base one uses the Core i5-6360U, which is a 15W model, and scores 268pts in Cinebench R15 multicore. Last years base uses Core i5-5257U, which is a 28W model, and scores 327pts in Cinebench R15 multicore.

 

[Hyloba]

get the best of all worlds

Let's see.
Windows laptop? No, I'd rather throw my money away.
Chromebook? God no.
Macbook? No, maybe if it only costed 1 soul. But now? No.

 

[Jabbeworck]

I think I'm gonna buy the 13" basic with touch bar, any great solution to put any magsafe alternative?
Do you think 8 ram is enough?

 

[budfoot]

I think I'm gonna buy the 13" basic with touch bar, any great solution to put any magsafe alternative?
Do you think 8 ram is enough?

8GB in 2009, sure. In 2016, no.

 

[Impatientmac]

I think Key placement is more important than the travel. I've been using a friends computer and I find myself making mistakes and typing slower even though the key travel is great. I hope the new keyboard does have more travel though because the little bit I've tried of the rMB was very uncomfortable

 

[ALRS_S48]

Wow, I'm unhappy. It looks great, I like the Touchbar, the weight and sizes are perfect. But I can't afford one, or more I don't want to. Those base specs are just wildly 2012, and the prices for realistic configurations are absurd. :/



Also, to people looking at the function row one: it's not the same except for the bar. It's a glorified Air.

no Touchbar -> 15W CPU
22% slower than last years model

The specs show that the base one uses the Core i5-6360U, which is a 15W model, and scores 268pts in Cinebench R15 multicore. Last years base uses Core i5-5257U, which is a 28W model, and scores 327pts in Cinebench R15 multicore.

That's really damning. Why pay the same price for a touchbar-less 13-inch model that's SLOWER than the outgoing model?

 

[shareef777]

Wow, I'm unhappy. It looks great, I like the Touchbar, the weight and sizes are perfect. But I can't afford one, or more I don't want to. Those base specs are just wildly 2012, and the prices for realistic configurations are absurd. :/



Also, to people looking at the function row one: it's not the same except for the bar. It's a glorified Air.

no Touchbar -> 15W CPU
22% slower than last years model

The specs show that the base one uses the Core i5-6360U, which is a 15W model, and scores 268pts in Cinebench R15 multicore. Last years base uses Core i5-5257U, which is a 28W model, and scores 327pts in Cinebench R15 multicore.

To Apple's defense, they did advertise the non-touchbar 13" as an Air replacement.

 

[Dead0k]

Let's see.
Windows laptop? No, I'd rather throw my money away.
Chromebook? God no.
Macbook? No, maybe if it only costed 1 soul. But now? No.

I mean you can take any macbook you like and use google and microsoft services for example

 

[senthor]

To Apple's defense, they did advertise the non-touchbar 13" as an Air replacement.

Of course, they did, but that didn't stop folks like @Uni Grad from buying it. I just want to make sure people know they're paying $$$ for a performance decrease.

 

[ZeneticX]

Let's see.
Windows laptop? No, I'd rather throw my money away.
Chromebook? God no.
Macbook? No, maybe if it only costed 1 soul. But now? No.

What exactly is wrong with a Windows laptop? When was your last Windows? Vista?

 

[giggles]

Maybe somebody already pointed this out but I was wondering:

no-touchbar 13" with 15W Air-grade cpu and bigger battery = 10hrs

touchbar 13" with 28W cpu and smaller battery = 10hrs

shouldn't the former have a far better battery life? are we 100% positive the screen is identical (including variable refresh rate)?

maybe apple doesn't wanna position the cheapest MBP to have the best battery life in marketing material? but IRL it DOES last longer in ligth workload?

 

[Hyloba]

I mean you can take any macbook you like and use google and microsoft services for example

I know, and I honestly would, but these prices are too outrageous to me. I would be fine with a high price for a device that's worth it, but these aren't.

 

[shareef777]

Of course, they did, but that didn't stop folks like @Uni Grad from buying it. I just want to make sure people know they're paying $$$ for a performance decrease.

I'm still numb from the fact that they still went with an outdated processor!

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...s-Intel-HD-530-Mobile-Skylake/m132950vsm34955

 

[happypeople]

I think I'm gonna buy the 13" basic with touch bar, any great solution to put any magsafe alternative?
Do you think 8 ram is enough?

Griffin makes a usb magnetic charging cable for the rMB. It should work with the new rMBP unless I am mistaken
https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable

 

[nos1609]

Here are the 13" CPU specs

 

[ALRS_S48]

Iris Pro 580 is 42% faster than Iris 550; http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...ntel-Iris-550-Mobile-Skylake/m132950vsm129148

Apple chose the latter.

 

[Rob_2811]

Amazed if anybody thinks that non touch bar 13 inch is value for money. If you're going to get screwed on the pricing get screwed and come away with a decent computer

 

[LevanderK]

Apple you lost a possible customer with those prices was looking forward to my first mac and would have bought a base line 15" but the 2800€ price tag is just ridculous for what i can buy with that amount of money elsewhere...

 

[imom]

Good luck with your shipping charges, insurance and claiming if damage or loss occurs in transit.
UK 3 pin plug and hassle explaining to US genius it was sourced from the UK in the event of a claim.
You might not be smiling then.

Jeeezuz... you don't know how lucky you are. My closest Apple shop is selling the 2015 15" today for £3536. I'm expecting £4,000+ for base 2016 MBP. So yeah, the UK price is GOOD.

 

[Arthur75]

Anybody knows whether the headphone jack on the new models is still also an optical audio line out ?

 

[Hyloba]

What exactly is wrong with a Windows laptop? When was your last Windows? Vista?

Nope. 2013 Samsung laptop with Windows 10. To give you an example. Last week I started working on a project using Illustrator. I was half an hour in when a blue screen appeared. I of course didn't save. Waited 15 minutes for the pc to reboot, but couldn't wait any longer and hard rebooted it. Then updates started installing, marvelous! 15 mins extra gone. I basically wasted an hour and I could start over again.
That and, touchpad randomly stops working, wifi inconsistent and poor, speakers randomly stop working, chrome crashing, file explorer crashing, unavoidable damn small updates every couple of days, inconsistent settings, and more.

Oh right, I had a Surface pro 4 last year. My god, did my high hopes come crashing down fast with that one. What a piece of beautifully engineered crap.

 

[giggles]

Iris Pro 580 is 42% faster than Iris 550; http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...ntel-Iris-550-Mobile-Skylake/m132950vsm129148

Apple chose the latter.

45W was not an option
apple chose the best possible 15W and the best possible 28W for the 13"s

 

[nbourbaki]

So, let's just take a moment to thank the early adopters who will make it possible for Apple to lower the price with the Kaby Lake update next year.

Thanks!!!

 

[budfoot]

What will be interesting is that companies who standardize on Macbook Pros - will they continue to happily pay an EXTRA ~500 for similar specs? It starts to add up when you're buying hundreds of machines a year.

 

[Savle]

I feel disappointed
No 32GB RAM, no Magsafe, butterfly keyboard and it's price...