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I think 15-20% (although the 15" is 14%) thinner, as I later clarified, is significant.
I never said it shouldn't have a dGPU, but given the thinness, Apples history, Apples priorities, and the fact that it is 'more powerful' could suggest dropping the dGPUs.

In terms of iGPUs, of course they're not as powerful but all Apple needs is a higher TFLOPS number as an excuse for removing a dGPU, for example with the 21.5" iMac.

At the end of the day, I'm extremely glad they continue to use dGPUs... now we'll have to wait for benchmarks.


Yeah your info on the brand new iMacs and the amazing refreshed Mac Pro's was also dead on! You ROCK MAN!
 
You're right, I agree with you. I'm 95% certain that I will end up cancelling my current order and then waiting for Apple to produce something with enough RAM that a pro can actually use. Why should I pay $3,700 for a laptop that doesn't meet my needs today, let alone 2 years from now?

What a shame and a tremendous let-down after all of the other exciting MBP details that came out today.

Apple these days are talking a good Professional notebook, yet ever more are serving the well heeled consumer. I am sure the sales of Mac`s will boom after these revelations /s Then again Apple has it`s Super Computer the IPP :rolleyes:

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Stop asking this. No one has a clue because no one has one yet to try it. We can all see the exact same information on the Apple site.

You can already do it on existing Macs. But if the question is, will Apple ever officially support this, then the answer is almost certainly not.
 
Haven't seen a post for this yet but here is some info on the Radeon Pro chips.

http://creators.radeon.com/radeon-pro/
"Up to 1.86 tflops" for the 460 - Wow, and it will be even lower than that once throttling kicks in. Big disappointment.

The base 450 is the same performance as the outgoing m370x lol

Also what's up with that dark blue text against that black background? It's so hard to read...
 
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Any XPS 15 users in this thread?

My two options are : rMBP i5/512/8GB for £1754 (student discount)

or

Dell XPS 15 i7/512/16GB for $1958 inc. tax (£1472) (I'm in the US right now on holiday but the MBP won't be available for a while)

I primarily use my laptop for web browsing/streaming movies/TV and some gaming (Civ VI, BF1, FM2017 is what I would be playing)

Obviously the Dell is a better laptop for gaming with the 960m, but can any current owners tell me how good the trackpad, keyboard and battery are in real life? Tbh I prefer Apple's software, display scaling, build quality and trackpad but I'm not sure what to get at this price point. (Windows high res scaling pisses me off, but is it worth £300 more for the mac)

Thanks
 
non oled version will get 15+ hours .... mark my words....

I'm genuinely tempted by the non-oled version now. Only killer is the ports, the oled bar doesn't really bother me. But i think I'd get by, I nearly had the 12" Macbook and really this is just the 12" everyone wanted. A real processor with 2 USB-C and TB3
 
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Amazed if anybody thinks that non touch bar 13 inch is value for money. If you're going to get screwed on the pricing get screwed and come away with a decent computer :D

Can you expand on that? beside the touch bar , are the difference in performance going to be that noticeable?
 
So whilst I think the pricing structure of the new MBP's is a bit crazy, I suspect over the coming months/year the MB price will drop significantly and probably be back in line with the current Air's.
 
Ignoring all the other omissions and questionable choices would it really have killed them to put in a 1080p Facetime Camera?

Unless they plan to "innovate" next year

There needs to be some reason when they quietly update the mbP with kaby and it's 2% increase. 1080P!!! WOOO!
 
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