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Maybe I missed those pages, but is anyone surprised how wrong we were on the 15'' processors? We were all thinking Skylake H 6770 for the base model with Iris Pro 580, but we got something else.

I don't know which processor specifically is in the base 15, but the up-spec processor has to be the 6920 because that's the only 2.9ghz unit. That means it uses the HD530 iGPU. For those who have been following regularly, that breaks a LOT of assumptions we had here.
 
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Here's the relative performance of the newly introduced AMD GPUs:

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You're getting a low-med tier GPU across the board. HAPPY SHOPPING
 
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Wuiffi said:
do you guys remember, when the Pro name meant, the device was build for professionals?
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Considering how many people here claim to be 'pros', it's strange that they are making such a fuss over spending $2-3,000 on an important work tool that should last 5 years. That's what... a whole $10 a week? Seriously...

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Exile714 said:
Maybe I missed those pages, but is anyone surprised how wrong we were on the 15'' processors? We were all thinking Skylake H 6770 for the base model with Iris Pro 580, but we got something else.

I don't know which processor specifically is in the base 15, but the up-spec processor has to be the 6920 because that's the only 2.9ghz unit. That means it uses the HD530 iGPU. For those who have been following regularly, that breaks a LOT of assumptions we had here.
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I'm definitely surprised. Easily the biggest miss we had on here. Very unfortunate that Apple did this, IMO.
 
Let the buyer beware.
For those of you who don't like i7 (slightly likely to generate more heat and causes to fan to operate more, etc than i5) and looking for i5 MacBook Pro, CPU performance gain wouldn't happen unless you get Touch Bar model. (that is comparing this year's model to 2014' or 2015' models)

2015' MacBook Pro 13' Retina Display: i5 2.9GHz Broadwell CPU.
vs.
2016' Macbook Pro 13' non Touch Bar: i5 2.0GHz Skylake CPU. (its also the only model with USB ports)

Practically, upgrade only begins from Touch Bar basic models.
 
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x-evil-x said:
don't forget all 15" have dgpu thrown in. 400$ difference in price in the 15" too
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Yeah, but for the same price, I could have gotten twice the SSD space last year for what amounts to essentially the same machine.

I just ended my auction for my 2015 15"/2.5/1TB. I am holding on to it now. Apple has lost their damn minds with that pricing.
 
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ALRS_S48 said:
Here's the relative performance of the newly introduced AMD GPUs:

NMPUDw8.png


You're getting a low-med tier GPU across the board. HAPPY SHOPPING
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I might be wrong, but doesn't this mean the 460 has equivalent(ish) TFLOPS to the 1050 desktop variant?
I personally think that's pretty decent.
 
dk808 said:
So the 450 is pretty much ****

I would rather have an integrated gpu
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Pretty much. AMD Pro 450's benchmarks vs. the Iris Pro 580 will be interesting. I predict similar performance. I didn't include the compute performance for Nvidia or Intel GPU since TFLOPS mean little across differing architectures (it's like comparing apples to oranges).

But is anyone surprised? The top GPU (AMD Pro 460) is ~20% slower than the med-range RX 460
 
Very very disappointed.

The emoji icons and the social media icons???

Pathetic.

The multimedia keyboard looks like a piece of sh*t - ruined the design.

But I'm going to buy one anyway. Picking it up on Saturday.

Apple need to fire a lot of people and spin out their Mac division.
 
ALRS_S48 said:
Pretty much. AMD Pro 450's benchmarks vs. the Iris Pro 580 will be interesting. I predict similar performance. I didn't include the compute performance for Nvidia or Intel GPU since TFLOPS mean little across differing architectures (it's like comparing apples to oranges).

But is anyone surprised? The top GPU (AMD Pro 460) is ~20% slower than the med-range RX 460
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Do you have any benchmarks right now to say that it will be 20% slower than RX 460?
 
hfletcher said:
I might be wrong, but doesn't this mean the 460 has equivalent(ish) TFLOPS to the 1050 desktop variant?
I personally think that's pretty decent.
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You'll need to benchmark applications/games to compare the performance of differing architectures (Polaris vs. Nvidia's Pascal). Even though the 1050 GTX has less compute performance on paper, it outclasses the desktop RX 460 by 10-15%. In other words, the 1050 GTX is likely ~40% than the AMD 460 Pro in gaming benchmarks.
 
I've got only one question: how do apple manage to get 4 thunderbolt ports on 12 pcie lanes? Keep in mind that 4 lanes are used by the ssd and 1 lane is for sure used by the wlan, so 7 lines available in total for 4 thunderblot 3 ports. Kinda magic...
 
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koyoot said:
Do you have any benchmarks right now to say that it will be 20% slower than RX 460?
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No, but AMD Pro 460's performance can be directly inferred by its compute power when compared to the exact same architecture of the RX 460 (both are AMD Polaris based).

2.15 TFLOPs vs. 1.86 TFLOPs, expect a decrease in performance. We'll wait for benchmarks to confirm.
 
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