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If I didn't have a mid 2009 15" MBP I would wait for the next one but this thing is really on its deathbed :(
 
Any idea on how much better the Radeon Pro 460 over the intel iris graphics 550 would be?

AMD RX 460 has a 174% advantage over Iris 550 (Source)

AMD Radeon Pro 460 is very similar to the RX 460, albeit with a slight performance penalty (2.15 vs. 1.86 TFLOPS), so applying this performance penalty to the above advantage yields ~150%.

In other words, AMD Pro 460 is roughly 2.5x faster than Iris 550.
 
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Does anyone know if the huge trackpad is going to be a problem ? I mean it looks like it spans over where my hands rest on the current MBP 13"

I can get a 512 gb 4k razer blade stealth with 16g. Ram, razer core, 1080 card and a 4k 27 inch monitor for less than the cost of the 15 inch I preprdered

With kabylake lake of course... sigh.

Should I stick with my 15 inch 512 gb 2.7 460 preorder?

Frankly, no. That's dumb. The only reason I'm going to get this expensive outdated hardware once more is because my work is going to pay for it.
This is the LAST TIME I'm going with Apple. I mean I'm not surprised, I said it many times in this thread : Apple = Outdated hardware and expensive price. They did it again (Ah!).

Every true new innovation they do ( battery life, Retina, or in this case the OLED bar ) is just copied 3 to 6 months after in the PC world.
No one would bother if it was running Windows. No one.

While I'm getting the 2016 mbp from my work, I'm also going to get the blade Stealth ofr myself, and re-learn to work on Windows (with dual boot on some linux distrib), and never ever have to deal with this stupidity ver again.
 
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guys. now I'm having second thoughts about the color I chose. I picked a space grey 13in oled. I like the space grey on the 12in but is this the same? I know that the iPhone space grey is much different and I hope Apple didn't change it again. all I see are videos of the silver color and I'm starting to really like it for some reason. somebody help.
 
Jesus wept this is awful. They just killed the macbookpro - emojiis/?!?!? No. And no 32GB option. And no quad core 13". And price increases ??? And no mag safe ?? And feckin dongles ?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?

Where are dem feckin angry emojiis when you need them.....if only i had a touch bar......NOT:mad::mad::mad:
 
Well I ordered one. 2.7Ghz with 8Mb cache and Radeon 460. 512 storage.

3100 € (I added a USB-C to USB-A adapter).

My god. I was thinking about spending around 2700, so this 400€ better be worth the money. This will be my main and only machine for the next 4-5 years, so...
 
The 2015 ones say "N/A" for L4 cache, whereas the 2016 ones say 128 MB, but I don't really know what L4 cache is or how important it is.

The L4 cache is the fourth level of cache.

In these processors, the first level of cache is in each core. Then, each core has a second (larger, but slower) level of caching. After that, there's an even bigger third level of caching for all cores combined. Finally, the L4 cache, if present, is another cache level on a separate die in the CPU package.

Most benchmarks show that the L4 cache has little benefit. I think it was mainly added so that the big iGPU wouldn't slow the CPU cores too much by hogging the memory bus. Without the 580 iGPU, the L4 isn't really needed.
 
That made it easy - 2015 Refurb 2.8 i7 1TB. Don't need the USB-C, don't need the Gee-Wiz bar, just need something newer than the 2011 17". Maybe in a year or two, once they really do update the MBP, I'll look at the new model.
Yeah refurb is the way to go. I might try to pick up a recent ish 11" Air. I had one once and made the mistake of seeling it. Great travel laptop
 
That space between the 15 inch's keyboard and screen is disgusting.

Yes kind of think so as well, more or less ...

I placed an order for a 15 512 (no other option, so with the Radeon Pro 455 2 Go) and now thinking about cancelling this order for a 13 16g RAM 512 SSD, one big reason being that I think it looks better ..

Plus 3199 € for the config I took is really kind of outrageous

The 13 16ram 512 would be 2439, quite a difference.

Not sure ...

Btw does anybody knows whether the headphone jack on the 13 and 15 new MBPs is still also an optical audio line out (like on previous models), or is it just a simple headphone jack ?

I use my MBP a lot closed, hooked to a desktop display, and to my audio video amp via optical audio out, and would be quite pissed to go back to analog hook up to the amp which created plenty of scratching and strange things ...
 
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