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Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone catch me up on what is expected for the next Macbook Pro? Is it essentially:
  • Skylake (definite)
  • More Thunderbolt ports (maybe)
  • USB Type-C charging (maybe)
I have a early 2011 13" MBP that is in bad shape (very slow, crashes, occurrences of flashing question mark on start-up) and I don't know how much longer it will hold out. I'd like to wait for the update, but I'm worried I might not make it. If I would only be missing a speed bump to Skylake, I wouldn't mind updating now, but if there are any form factor changes, I might try to wait. What is the likelihood that the next update sees any major changes?
 
hfletcher said:
It's possible they include 4 TB3 ports on the 15" (4x4 = 16 PCIe lanes) if they use some lanes from the PCH instead of directly from the CPU.
Also, no dGPU means more free PCIe lanes.

Edit: Oops, just realised Skylake-H doesn't have a PCH. That's only on Desktop variants. Does anyone know if 16 lanes is the maximum for the whole device?
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Mobile Skylake has 16 PCIe lanes total. PLX might be used to increase this number but is quite unlikely IMHO.
AFAIK 1 TB3 interface uses 2 lanes (i. e. not 4x4 but 4x2).
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Russell Bell said:
Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone catch me up on what is expected for the next Macbook Pro? Is it essentially:
  • Skylake (definite)
  • More Thunderbolt ports (maybe)
  • USB Type-C charging (maybe)
I have a early 2011 13" MBP that is in bad shape (very slow, crashes, occurrences of flashing question mark on start-up) and I don't know how much longer it will hold out. I'd like to wait for the update, but I'm worried I might not make it. If I would only be missing a speed bump to Skylake, I wouldn't mind updating now, but if there are any form factor changes, I might try to wait. What is the likelihood that the next update sees any major changes?
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Major things to consider
- Skylake has some hardware video encoders you'd like to have if you encode a lot
- Skylake iGPU is huge performance bump
- SSD will most likely be NVMe - better latencies and power efficiency
- Shift to USB-C connections for everything - if you buy current one you might end up not being able to fully use bleeding edge devices as they're created for USB-C
- Thunderbolt 3 is a huge performance bump and enables you to use external GPU (aka top-tier gaming rMBP)
- Speculations about 14" and 16" instead of 13" and 15"
- Speculations about huge performance bump for dGPU (highly unlikely before June or even later)
- Speculations about 4k-5k inner display
- Speculations about 5k Thunderbolt Display - it's likely you won't be able to connect it to current MBPs
- Speculations about full redesign

All in all next release might include a lot of major changes. Whether they will be implemented is up to Apple. I'd wait.
 
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Pdp7 said:
I mentioned in another thread, a MagSafe redesign could be the ticket to providing power to charge the laptop over a usb-c port. The charging cable included could look just like the current one, but move the MagSafe breakaway to the powerbrick end, and use usb-c on the laptop end. The powerbrick could contain the magnetic connector and would function the same if someone tripped on the cord. You could still have the fat extension power cord that attaches to the brick, or use the portable pronged adapter.
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But.... that wouldn't solve anything as you could still drag the laptop off a table by tripping or pulling on the cord. You just couldn't drag the brick around (unless you trip on the cable going from the brick to the wall)

Bricksafe™
 
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My trackpad is not responding all the time and I am sick of it, what day of the month do you think the march event might be? Also what are the chances that they'll update the 13" mbpr at that time. Apple has fixed my computer about 5 times for major repair the next time they should be replacing my mbpr 13" *here is hoping*! 2 times fixed for my trackpad, once for the ssd going out (of course I lost everything) and once for the battery. And once for the keyboard. So on this model the trackpad, the keyboard and the battery are all glued together according to the apple genius bar. So that is literally 4 times that they swapped out the trackpad, keyboard and battery combo. And this time after they fixed it it's the worst it's ever been. I will wait it out.
 
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volcomvenom said:
My trackpad is not responding all the time and I am sick of it, what day of the month do you think the march event might be? Also what are the chances that they'll update the 13" mbpr at that time. Apple has fixed my computer about 5 times for major repair the next time they should be replacing my mbpr 13" *here is hoping*! 2 times fixed for my trackpad, once for the ssd going out (of course I lost everything) and once for the battery. And once for the keyboard. So on this model the trackpad, the keyboard and the battery are all glued together according to the apple genius bar. So that is literally 4 times that they swapped out the trackpad, keyboard and battery combo. And this time after they fixed it it's the worst it's ever been. I will wait it out.
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Per Mark Gurman: "Apple is currently planning to hold its keynote during the week of March 14th, but the final date is still in flux, according to sources."

Source:
http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/27/ipad-air-3-march-event-new-apple-watch-bands/
 
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Just picked up the Akitio Neutrino U3.1 (USB 3.1 Gen 2) enclosure. I figure you nerds will thin the supplies of USB-C enclosures and cables once the new MBP drops so I'll buy mine and use it in superslowmo in the meantime.
 
I've held off the XPS 13 due to the GPU not being up to par - but now that they have upgraded it to Intel HD 540, it is now seeming very tempting.

The reasons really are:
- I am not sure when the rMBP 13 is going to ccome
- If it does come out, at best it will have the Intel HD 540 anyway
- If no re-design, it will be larger then the XPS 13 - and no edge-to-edge screen would be a bummer.

So, I am actually hoping someone could help convince me it is worth waiting for the refresh rather than just settling on the XPS 13. If XPS 13 had 16:10 screen and a 65-70wh battery, I would have just bitten by now :X.
 
Ma2k5 said:
I've held off the XPS 13 due to the GPU not being up to par - but now that they have upgraded it to Intel HD 540, it is now seeming very tempting.

The reasons really are:
- I am not sure when the rMBP 13 is going to ccome
- If it does come out, at best it will have the Intel HD 540 anyway
- If no re-design, it will be larger then the XPS 13 - and no edge-to-edge screen would be a bummer.

So, I am actually hoping someone could help convince me it is worth waiting for the refresh rather than just settling on the XPS 13.
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The 13" rMBP is most likely to have the HD 550, actually.
 
I'm sure this has asked many times before but...

Does anyone have any idea on pricing? Do redesigns come with a redesigned price?
 
Extreemwisse said:
I'm sure this has asked many times before but...

Does anyone have any idea on pricing? Do redesigns come with a redesigned price?
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It can and probably will increase in price, but I'm guessing not more than 300 dollars/euros. We don't know what parts Apple will use and what the manufacturing costs will be. Of course Apple slaps on a huge amount for their own profit, but don't expect the price to jump up over 500+ dollars all of a sudden.
If Xeon processors will be used, that by itself costs almost double than the Intel Iris Pro 580 chipsets. OLED would also bring quite a price with it. It'd be nice to have the before mentioned 2 but we probably won't see them included in this update.
 
Every time I check for news about MBP and the "leak" from DigiTimes comes up, I hope they got it wrong.
Also, I'm worried Apple will downgrade the Pros and make the Air became the new "Pro" or something similar...
I'm really hoping I'm wrong...
 
Well **** them if they do so. I have already thought about a backup plan - Lenovo ThinkPad P50 Xeon E3-1505M v5, 15.6" 4K IPS with Color Sensor, 16 GB DDR4 (will then expand to be 64 GB), NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB, 512 GB NVMe SSD (will then add 1-2 HDDs for some space), spill resistant keyboard, a lot of ports (incl. TB3) and blessed Linux. Two bad points I see is slightly bigger weight and 2 spatial channels wi-fi (3 on rMBP 15"). Lack of OS X may be seen as bad point as well but for me it's OK. Apple, if you hear me - don't make me buy it!
 
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I wouldn't hold my breath on DigiTimes guys. They only have been accurate when it comes to parts and leaks on iOS related devices. Just want hits and ratings. I call bs.
 
Does anyone saw that all of the computers with Skylake CPUs have 1866 MHz memory, not 2133? It should boast performance even more for iGPUs if Apple will go for them.

The problematic part is that Vaio Z tested by mobiletechreview also uses 1866 MHz RAM, for 28W Skylake CPU.
 
koyoot said:
Does anyone saw that all of the computers with Skylake CPUs have 1866 MHz memory, not 2133? It should boast performance even more for iGPUs if Apple will go for them.

The problematic part is that Vaio Z tested by mobiletechreview also uses 1866 MHz RAM, for 28W Skylake CPU.
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LPDDR3 1866 runs at lower voltage than LDDR4 2133. Its likely Apple will go with LPDDR3 imo due to the battery difference. Until a full spec for LPDDR4 comes out im not sure many laptops would use it. Id love if apple did, id gladly sacrifice ~5% of my battery life for it, but im not sure they will.
 
PTLove said:
LPDDR3 1866 runs at lower voltage than LDDR4 2133. Its likely Apple will go with LPDDR3 imo due to the battery difference. Until a full spec for LPDDR4 comes out im not sure many laptops would use it. Id love if apple did, id gladly sacrifice ~5% of my battery life for it, but im not sure they will.
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I almost don't want to imagine the prices Apple would charge for DDR4 RAM upgrades. Puckering at the mere thought of it.
 
j1104638 said:
What games? Surface Pro 4 just doesn't use 45W CPUs for quite obvious reason (their size and, consequently, TDP constraints).
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Previous post blamed Apple for not coming out with the latest MBP (stated that THEY were 'playing games'). He also noted that he'd just get the Surface Pro. Obviously they used dual core (i.e., lower TDP procs), but the point was that the MBP needs a quad-core variant of SkyLake which is NOT available (until recently).
 
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