Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[knassar]

I feel there's a big difference between removing ports (which Apple is known to want to do), and removing model line-ups. The Pro line is a business segment, a marketing strategy and a specific population that's being targeted.

The consequences of killing off the Pro line are much more far-reaching than just simplifying their notebook line-up. Your post even suggests that they tend to keep products alive for longer (see: Macbook Pro (non retina), macbook air 11", etc.) rather than kill them off in groups.

In short, nice theory, but not buying it.

 

[Mago]

Not to be a Debbie Downer or anything, but does your speculation have any basis in fact or is this just your wishlist?

I wrote 'my speculation on what have been leaked' which includes leaks from Apple related publications, my own analysis on hardware available and shows trends (as ces).

Maybe the only item which maybe point of whish list is what's about Apple Pencil, since pencil is a trend on MS SURFACE Related products it's also a trend in the category.

About Thunderbolt 3 ports, Intel only has two controllers for Skylake Z170 with one or two ports which can not be combined so you can offer only one or two Thunderbolt 3 configuration on Skylake Z170.

Maybe I'm wrong on power on usb-c I'm not sure if high power mode is compatible or its possible to be concurrent with Thunderbolt 3.

As for display, a bunch of laptop offer 4k Apple need to grow to keep it up, but maybe they decide just to stay at 16:9 and the resolution ends on 3200x1800 (same vertical just a bit wider) and the 14" model on 2880x1600.

The retina display with on board gpu was mentioned years ago, past CES Intel mentioned will arrive display with on board gpu this year, none was show at CES also docks with dGPU where mentioned but only Thunderbolt 3 cages with pcie gpu on board where shown, that gives Apple chance for two first.

About lineup simplification the industry trends is to eliminate dGPU on laptops this year, also the macbook air is unlikely will get an update (the update was the macbook 12") will follow the classic macbook pro 13" path.

 

[Blue Sun]

I doubt a full redesign is in the works, although I do expect the TB ports will be replaced by USB-C ports compatible with TB3. The 15" may drop the dGPU entirely this time round, but I hope they don't.

Fingers crossed that Apples obsession with thinness and lightness doesn't come at a cost to performance, especially in their Pro machines. Serious quad core CPUs and dGPUs need adequate cooling.

 

[frosse]

Still no mentioning of new MacBooks in Gurman's latest 9to5Mac piece. March event seems to focus on iPhone 5SE, new iPad Air and Apple Watch Bands.

Apple is currently aiming to unveil the new 4-inch the iPhone 5se, the iPad Air 3, and new Apple Watch band options at an event on Tuesday, March 15th, according to sources.

 

[PantalonesSucia]

Still no mentioning of new MacBooks in Gurman's latest 9to5Mac piece. March event seems to focus on iPhone 5SE, new iPad Air and Apple Watch Bands.

Yeah, this does not bode well for us hoping for a March MBP release.

 

[knassar]

Yeah, this does not bode well for us hoping for a March MBP release.

god dammit.

 

[cmChimera]

WWDC 2016: Bring on Polaris Macbook Pro.

 

[TechZeke]

Still no mentioning of new MacBooks in Gurman's latest 9to5Mac piece. March event seems to focus on iPhone 5SE, new iPad Air and Apple Watch Bands.

Yeah, this does not bode well for us hoping for a March MBP release.

Assuming there's a redesign.

If it's just going to be a spec bump, refreshed MacBooks will take all of but 5 minutes of the Keynote.

 

[Baldrake]

WWDC 2016: Bring on Polaris Macbook Pro.

Frankly, I'd wait for that. I'd rather a revolutionary release in June (or even later) than a spec bump in March.

 

[knassar]

Assuming there's a redesign.

If it's just going to be a spec bump, refreshed MacBooks will take all of but 5 minutes of the Keynote.

Just saw that Kaby Lake is announced H2 2016. If you factor in a few month delay, such as what we've seen with Skylake, that means the redesign could come in Q1/Q2 2017.

That's a year long wait for a redesign.

This is the moment when I realise that I've been putting my hopes up WAY too high for a redesign. The disappointment would be a hard hit to take if Apple doesn't deliver.

 

[cmChimera]

Frankly, I'd wait for that. I'd rather a revolutionary release in June (or even later) than a spec bump in March.

It'd be worth waiting for. If they redesign without Polaris, I may just wait for the inevitable refresh that includes it.

 

[knassar]

Assuming there's a redesign.

If it's just going to be a spec bump, refreshed MacBooks will take all of but 5 minutes of the Keynote.

The new chassis have probably been in the works for a while now. I find it difficult to imagine they'd drop a redesign that's in the works in favour of a spec bump. So maybe the most likely date is in fact June.

 

[Henkna]

Apple frustrates me. Really need a MacBook now. Don't wanna the 2015 model. Long time waiting before its June!

 

[Mago]

The industry trends point to bigger screen, rumours of updated Macbook with cinema (16:9) are year long, what to expect on the lower end is minor redesign of the curent macbooks pros just switching TB2 for TB3 and HDMI 2.0 and Skylake internals, but I fear (and isn't something I like to happen), we face an full redesign pointing to something like that crappy Macbook 12", relaying on TB3 connected GPU for graphic demanding tasks and baked by a long blah blah on how convenient and awesome is the new technology.

I do respect 9to5mac.com they are pretty accurate on show announcements but no all the time they predict all the announcements, I think Apple misses am opportunity to launch earlier (while not available for sale until April) than at WWDC are 2 months of sales lost (at this point everybody knows a new MacBook Pro is coming and waiting for it, so there are minimal the sales from legacy inventory they could lose).

And updated iPad and an updated iPhone5 Se barely deceives an keynote, the iPad Air E would be enough to be announced visit press release, as the iPhone5 se, same for the watch nothing really new just more cosmetic options.

WWDC is more software centric and a mega launch of the new MacBooks and all the TB3 stuff (5k display, docks) plus the updated Mac Pro are too much

 

[MareLuce]

This is the worst wait ever.

 

[knassar]

This is the worst wait ever.

Totally. I'm so frustrated, that I'm starting to accessorize in anticipation of my new laptop.

Sooooo, I have a mechanical keyboard on the way.

(it helps)

 

[snc]

Guys there is no much to wait to be honest, skylake is about 10% better than haswell, iris580 will be little brtter than r370 and polaris is probably long wait so no macbook with polaris soon. Maybe most users of this topic can't wait for thunderbolt 3

 

[knassar]

Guys there is no much to wait to be honest, skylake is about 10% better than haswell, iris580 will be little brtter than r370 and polaris is probably long wait so no macbook with polaris soon. Maybe most users of this topic can't wait for thunderbolt 3

I just want to replace my water damaged mid-2010 Core2Duo 13" MBP before it kicks the bucket

 

[snc]

I just want to replace my water damaged mid-2010 Core2Duo 13" MBP before it kicks the bucket

I would buy pro 13 as it has broadwell which is very close to skylake

 

[doitdada]

Guys there is no much to wait to be honest, skylake is about 10% better than haswell, iris580 will be little brtter than r370 and polaris is probably long wait so no macbook with polaris soon. Maybe most users of this topic can't wait for thunderbolt 3

Polaris is already in production
http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris/

 

[snc]

Polaris is already in production
http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris/

Mobile version came always later than desktop and dont now if this change this year

 

[knassar]

I would buy pro 13 as it has broadwell which is very close to skylake

Yeah but I figured it was worth waiting for the udpate anyway. I might as well buy the newest stuff - I thought the updates would drop by January, and now I feel like I've already waited so long, so I might as well wait until the new MBPs are here.

 

[nicovh]

Yeah but I figured it was worth waiting for the udpate anyway. I might as well buy the newest stuff - I thought the updates would drop by January, and now I feel like I've already waited so long, so I might as well wait until the new MBPs are here.

Been waiting since February 2015.... Haven't had the need to buy it yet so I've just been waiting. If it isn't available before September I am absolutely screwed though...

 

[Mago]

I want an new MacBook past year I took the wrong way to try to replace my MacBook Pro 2011 with an iPad Air fully loaded, this ended on a mess, notwithstanding at home and the office I have desktops I considered on short travel it could be more convenient to use an iPad than carrying an heavy laptop, please don't laugh so loud, I'll never forget iPads are just big iPods good as eReader and more less effective as Web browser.

Ok I'm on the market for an laptop but Thunderbolt 3 really changes everything it opens many possibilities not only a new Thundebolt Display 2 with dGPU also I can run nVidia GPU you a cage with this.

So I'm F%cked by Apple, and I must to wait for this and resolve with my mac mini on long travels (not that bad).

 

[nicovh]

Polaris is already in production
http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris/

That's exciting! And it's the mobile 14nm FinFET GPU's!

"AMD’s Polaris architecture-based 14nm FinFET GPUs deliver a remarkable generational jump in power efficiency. Polaris-based GPUs are designed for fluid frame rates in graphics, gaming, VR and multimedia applications running on compelling small form-factor thin and light computer designs."

It would be amazing if it got included in the upcoming update!