Pretty sure Gurman has had everything well in advance of the last couple of events. He even had one of the images of the Macbook from the Apple website in January last year.
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Just ordered XPS 15 4k. And, goodbye guys, have fun and be patient.
But the Problem ist: Dell installs Windows on this beautiful piece of Hardware... A real Mac user can't switch to Windows... ;-)
With the way Apple is trending, those days are coming to an end my friend.
Hmmm I'm worried about the road Apple is going down as well but as of now, Mac OS, for me, ist still lightyears ahead of Windows 10, even though it did some nice catching up.
I personally see myself - a few years down the road - where I have a hardcore workstation laptop running neither Windows nor Mac OS X but some Linux distribution like https://elementary.io - I tested it for a while and besides the lack of software I'm used to in a professional environment (i.e. creative suite) it worked really nice. For a "common casual user" I really see no need in using either Mac OS or Windows as of TODAY. You can do EVERYTHING on that (and similar like mint and ubuntu) Linux distros you would do on any other computer, with the only difference that everything is free...
The moment there's Adobe Creative Suite on Linux, I'm probably gone.
I'm not too sure though, my friend uses a Dell XPS 15 and I've been called over far too many times to fix an issue here and issue there. Drivers failing, missing drivers, scaling issues even with magnification, distorted audio because of driver + build quality, flaky touchscreen. the list goes on.
had to do multiple fresh installs just to get rid of the bloatware, deal with windows 10 upgrade issues, and find the right drivers (which arent always the ones listed on dells page)
Given that I'm also looking to get a 15 inch laptop in the near future, made me firmly choose Apple despite the better internals on the dell...
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given that I'm quite curious about linux my self, do you think that would happen anytime in the near future?
And how plausible do you think it would be to use, let's say something as underpowered as a chromebook, but use paperspace.io to use heavier software?
Hmmm I'm worried about the road Apple is going down as well but as of now, Mac OS, for me, ist still lightyears ahead of Windows 10, even though it did some nice catching up.
I personally see myself - a few years down the road - where I have a hardcore workstation laptop running neither Windows nor Mac OS X but some Linux distribution like https://elementary.io - I tested it for a while and besides the lack of software I'm used to in a professional environment (i.e. creative suite) it worked really nice. For a "common casual user" I really see no need in using either Mac OS or Windows as of TODAY. You can do EVERYTHING on that (and similar like mint and ubuntu) Linux distros you would do on any other computer, with the only difference that everything is free...
The moment there's Adobe Creative Suite on Linux, I'm probably gone.
Would you mind to share your personal experience? Things that you have felt or use in OS X that makes you think it's "still lightyears ahead of Windows 10"? I ask as someone who is going to meet OS X for the first time (virtual box os x roms don't count), I'm just curious.
I understand switching because being fed up with Apple, but I'd at least wait for the Keynote on Monday.
The main reason I haven't pulled the trigger on something else is because I know Im going to be pissed and have buyer's remorse when that shiny new rMBP releases.
Actully
Actully try to share r expirence in detalis cause me 2 its gonna be my first mac anyway new one the 2016 depends on when i go home then i will buy cause i am stuck on a ship , to be hones i am using HP pavillon 6 or something like this in 2011 and since i bought it its like hell on earth lol but still working anyway , and also since instarted using Iphones and ipads and got intouch with the simplicity and protection of apple i have decided to buy the mac but been like 25 years may b on windows so that transition wont be easy ... But i need more motivation towards apple
Actully try to share r expirence in detalis cause me 2 its gonna be my first mac anyway new one the 2016 depends on when i go home then i will buy cause i am stuck on a ship , to be hones i am using HP pavillon 6 or something like this in 2011 and since i bought it its like hell on earth lol but still working anyway , and also since instarted using Iphones and ipads and got intouch with the simplicity and protection of apple i have decided to buy the mac but been like 25 years may b on windows so that transition wont be easy ... But i need more motivation towards apple
May I chime in and tell you why I prefer OS X? As I said a few pages back, the reason why I love OS X is the small things. Here are just a few of them:
- In Windows, setting default apps will cause icons on the desktop and in the taskbar to flash for some reason. (Sometimes they flash randomly.) This never happens in OS X.
- Installing apps and uninstalling apps are so much simpler in OS X. I don't have to worry about application files being scattered throughout the entire file system. Managing what apps appear in the Start menu in Windows is a chore.
- I love how you can interact with the content in an inactive window using the mouse without bringing the window to the front while pressing the Command key. This is a huge time-saver. I don't think this is possible in Windows.
- The ability to hide all windows of an app in OS X is handy.
- In OS X, clicking Close or Minimize in an inactive window doesn't bring it to the front first.
- OS X looks more refined than Windows.
- Animations feel more natural in OS X.
- I love OS X’s text antialiasing.
- You can search for menu items in the Help menu.
I prefer OS X because I actually need it to code.........
Hmmm I'm worried about the road Apple is going down as well but as of now, Mac OS, for me, ist still lightyears ahead of Windows 10, even though it did some nice catching up.
I personally see myself - a few years down the road - where I have a hardcore workstation laptop running neither Windows nor Mac OS X but some Linux distribution like https://elementary.io - I tested it for a while and besides the lack of software I'm used to in a professional environment (i.e. creative suite) it worked really nice. For a "common casual user" I really see no need in using either Mac OS or Windows as of TODAY. You can do EVERYTHING on that (and similar like mint and ubuntu) Linux distros you would do on any other computer, with the only difference that everything is free...
The moment there's Adobe Creative Suite on Linux, I'm probably gone.
I think I'll try installing a linux distribution (I'm looking into manjaro) once I get the machine. I've heard that dell's laptop has nice compatibility with linux…They even released a XPS 13 with built-in ubuntu system.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/02/intel-skylake-notebooks-desktops/
You'll see the ones for the 13" in that article.
That's a very interesting and very insightful explanation
. If the dGPU doesn't give any major performance benefits, then why do we still have them if the iGPU is more than capable of delivering 60fps-120fps @ 2160p at a much cooler temperature? If Intel can beat the Titan X and/or the Quadro M6000 and put that in the iGPU-equipped MBP, then I'll be waiting in the Apple line in the rain.I'm an avid video editor and compositor who uses a gaming desktop to handle my post-production needs and I have the last generation non-retina 2012 MBP15 w/ the 1GB Nvidia dGPU which I love even though its hardware is old but I can still edit/composite and it's a real workhorse.
...I'm hoping Apple puts a 32GB DDR4 RAM chip in their rMBPs and a 16GB DDR4 RAM chip in the MBAs/MBs, but that's a separate issue...
Jeez....Honestly, who here bought their first Mac based upon its performance?
Not many of you I bet. Rather, it was due to usability, integration, aesthetic and productivity.
The way some carry on and even shift to Windows systems because the cpu and gpu generation is not has high as the competition, even though the MacBook Pro is a very excellent performing system that is a joy to use....well, maybe they have lost sight of the picture.
Not many of you I bet. Rather, it was due to usability, integration, aesthetic and productivity.
The way some carry on and even shift to Windows systems because the cpu and gpu generation is not has high as the competition, even though the MacBook Pro is a very excellent performing system that is a joy to use....well, maybe they have lost sight of the picture.
Wow, it seems that iGPUs are making a comeback. I used to remember years ago they were a hassle to deal with and every tech geek said to me "buy a dGPU", now you can run anything including Avid/Adobe without a hiccup.
I'm looking forward to see the Iris 580s in action...
Yep, the headline of their event is about their unfinished campus.
'Milanese loop' ... 'Leather loop' .. they're using the word loop for bands... this event will talk about watch bands, no doubt about it.
[doublepost=1458411841][/doublepost]I've pretty much stopped caring, I have the 2012 original rMBP which up until recently has been fine... I've had a career change, using it for work more often, much more resources so the 8GB ram isn't enough.Apart from that this 2012 rMBP is the fastest computer i've ever used and is still as fast as the day I purchased it.
The only reason I haven't purchased is because it's so close i might as well wait to see if they're coming. If there is no announcement on Monday i'll be ordering the current model.
With little to no rumours, leaks or evidence i'll say we're almost at zero chance of this happening, if it does it will be a Skylake speed bump, which lets be honest, most of us won't even notice on day to day usage.
For everyone else holding out, don't feel too bad on Monday, the latest rMBPs will be very capable machines considering my 2012 model is still a beast.
If I may chime in, I bought a Mac because Final Cut Studio was the standard in the entertainment industry and it was only available on a Mac even though the prototype was made for a PC as well, but that's no longer the case since studios and small marketing agencies use either Avid Media Composer and/or Adobe Premiere Pro.
Some studios used Avid before FCS, then changed to FCP7, then back to Avid because FCPX haunted every editor in 2011.
So can anyone tell me if there is some historical precedent for macbook pros selling out on launch? Ideally I would want to wait a few weeks for some first impressions to come in before placing an order, but if there is a likelihood of there being a shortage then I would order early.
The capacity of dedicated VRAM may not, but the speed and the aggregate memory I/O width would do so. Iris Pro is just relying on the system memory bandwidth and the on-package 128MB cache, both of which are shared with the rest of the system.
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Not saying it is impossible (e.g. AMD might bring HBM to its APU product stack), but this claim is a bit over-generalised. Integrated graphics can wipe a lot of entry level cards we used to have, but dGPU can still have an edge by having a dedicated, high-speed pool of memory.
P.S. I am interested in an Skylake rMBP with Iris Pro though.
Right, like I said there will still be higher end dGPUs available that will surpass intel's offerings. What I am saying is on a price to performance ratio, and on a power consumption to performance ratio, intel has closed the gab, and will now beat systems with dGPUs.
If intel wanted to compete with higher end dGPUs like the 145W 980M, they could make a CPU with an iGPU that also has a dedicated high-speed pool of memory.
iPhones can already output to 4k. (3840x2160)
I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 7 will be able to output 2160x1200@90fps
But to play graphically intense VR games at the level of the rift and vive, iPhone probably won't even be able to make 30fps at 1080p
I tested an Iris 540 (nowhere near 580, I know), on the Surface Pro 4, and let me tell you, it was bad. You are putting too much hope into that iGPU. But if you want a $2500 machine with iGPU, go right ahead
So you had the highest end model of the surface pro 4? I did too. And guess what you can't fit a dGPU in that size of tablet. And the performance of the Iris 540 is incredible, when you consider its thermal and power consumption limitations.
And I am not putting too much hope in that iGPU. I have tested several to all GPUs coming out over the last 4-5 years from AMD, Nvidia, and Intel. And it is clear that the iGPU model is going to beat the dGPU model, in most use cases. In the case of a notebook like 13" and 15" MBP the iGPU model wins.
So if I could buy a $2500 computer with a dGPU or $2000 computer with an iGPU, and the iGPU performs better and with better batterylife and costs less. Yes I am going to go right ahead and get that one, and recommend it to all my friends.
@Simplicated and @Ovedius thanks for your answers guys!
Nothing big I see, but well the icons is a good one! Probably one of the most annoying things of windows since ever!
I read somewhere that you should not have files on desktop in Mac because it could slow down speed is it true?
Nothing big I see, but well the icons is a good one! Probably one of the most annoying things of windows since ever!
I read somewhere that you should not have files on desktop in Mac because it could slow down speed is it true?
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