The major "issue" with Osx is the top menu bar being the one of the "active" app, as opposed to one menu per window.
But not that clear if they should try to move out of that or not.
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The major "issue" with Osx is the top menu bar being the one of the "active" app, as opposed to one menu per window.
But not that clear if they should try to move out of that or not.
This sentence is AMAZING hahaha. Gotta love the internet
It's really a shame Apple let us wait for updates so long. Unfortunately many people still buying the old 2015 rMbp. So why Apple feel themselves to hurry up? Sold my iMac two months ago, and was hoping on updates at the march event. Now I will wait till wwdc. If nothing happens then it's bye bye Apple!
iMac? I am sorry to disappoint you, but it's been 4 years since the last major spring/summer iMac update. Wait until October or just quit. The current iMac is already a good buy.
I understand what you mean. I think this article nails a few points right.
https://medium.com/swlh/macos-it-s-time-to-take-the-next-step-ee7871ccd3c7#.r5i4pvjd4
Sure it does. The basic OS element and most praised feature is basically from the Panther/Tiger/Leopard age 10 years ago with small addition from iOS. In terms of animation..... Probably back to the age of Cheetah......
Well, I personally feel that Apple doesn't really have a fleshed out design language. Aqua has sort of lost its way. It's just a Jony Ive flattening. Not to say that the current UI doesn't look nice to the eyes (it looks and works better than most OSs, including Windows 10), however its not unique. It's just a blatant response to iOS' flattened apps, and blurred overlays.
I would like for Apple to flesh out their design language, like Google has done with their Material Design.
Ohh now we understand. We thought you sold an apple for another apple.
Yes the mbp will be at wwdc for 99%
I know... my company just bought this LAST YEAR. A couple of months before this new one came out.
Told them to wait. You think they'd listen?!
And... best thing... they didn't really need it urgently and could've waited...
Well the scary thing about Apple updating OS/X is that it probably just means making it more like iOS.
This is a company fat on $200 billion in cash, with an aging and unimaginative design and management team.
Don't expect too much from them.
Oh ya. I saw that one too.
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Haha... that is actually one of the things I LOVE compared to Windows... where the menu bars being all over the place make me furious!
I'm an Apple user since 2006 ... here"s some points.
The Intel Switch and the use of a BSD based mach kernel has saved Apple.
If you look at the reliable part of OSX, not Sandboxing, Document Versions and iCloud,
you'll note that everything that is really the base of all of this is still BSD/Unix based.
I would like to see Apple innovating not only "on top" of this layer, but really work on
Virtualisation, Memory Management, a real File System and so forth.
BUT, I do believe Apple is not capable to do these changes.
Aside from Chris Lattner (sp?) who is working on Swift and LLVM related projects,
Apple has not created a new great low/level approach to something.
Most of you might not really know what I'm trying to express here, I'm sorry.
Modern CPU and GPU hardware has so many exciting features that are currently not used by OSX at all.
And I explicitly do not talk about Final Cut or some other Pro Software.
I mean a new concept for the really low level stuff.
If you take time and read about the Mach Kernel and look at the low-level API's, you'll quickly realise that
Apple has just been able to keep up supporting new hardware components but there's next to no innovation.
Examples just from the top of my head:
A new virtual memory manager with virtualisation build into the OS
A new filesystem (versioning, compression, replication), no CoreStorage is just a block device abstraction
A new NETWORK filesystem, not SMB or AFP
A better GPU abstraction layer that supports stuff like CUDA (sth like DirectX)
A network enabled centralised Spotlight Service for your LAN, shareable on iCloud and ties in to the network filessytem
A better TimeMaschine implementation that's not just hard links on a sparse bundle
I could go on and on ...
I really do NOT care if the appearance of a button changes.
The Intel Switch and the use of a BSD based mach kernel has saved Apple.
If you look at the reliable part of OSX, not Sandboxing, Document Versions and iCloud,
you'll note that everything that is really the base of all of this is still BSD/Unix based.
I would like to see Apple innovating not only "on top" of this layer, but really work on
Virtualisation, Memory Management, a real File System and so forth.
BUT, I do believe Apple is not capable to do these changes.
Aside from Chris Lattner (sp?) who is working on Swift and LLVM related projects,
Apple has not created a new great low/level approach to something.
Most of you might not really know what I'm trying to express here, I'm sorry.
Modern CPU and GPU hardware has so many exciting features that are currently not used by OSX at all.
And I explicitly do not talk about Final Cut or some other Pro Software.
I mean a new concept for the really low level stuff.
If you take time and read about the Mach Kernel and look at the low-level API's, you'll quickly realise that
Apple has just been able to keep up supporting new hardware components but there's next to no innovation.
Examples just from the top of my head:
A new virtual memory manager with virtualisation build into the OS
A new filesystem (versioning, compression, replication), no CoreStorage is just a block device abstraction
A new NETWORK filesystem, not SMB or AFP
A better GPU abstraction layer that supports stuff like CUDA (sth like DirectX)
A network enabled centralised Spotlight Service for your LAN, shareable on iCloud and ties in to the network filessytem
A better TimeMaschine implementation that's not just hard links on a sparse bundle
I could go on and on ...
I really do NOT care if the appearance of a button changes.
I'm also glad Windows came so far, since now it's up to Apple to be on par or improve it. No competence = lazziness and no big leaps (just see Intel doing his own, now that he doesn't compete with AMD). So come on Apple, bring us NEW and STABLE stuff (but seeing Apple last OS releases, these two features seem to exclude themselves).
Offtopic: is it me or even the way they talk and introduce other members is the same as the Keynotes? Dunno if it happens in all this "tech" presentations, since I've only seen 2 Keynotes, but it's the first thing that came to my mind. I find quite annoying this emotive-slow-exagerated talking, like if they were adressing to kids who can barely understand the repercussion of what they are saying.
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Oh ya. I saw that one too.
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Haha... that is actually one of the things I LOVE compared to Windows... where the menu bars being all over the place make me furious!
Yes it clearly has its pros and cons, but somehow with more screen space and higher DPI, you tend to move out of the "one app usage at a time", this principle dates from the very first Mac user interface, I'm not sure starting from scratch they would go that way now.
So, today is the first of April.
No April fools, please.
And also 40 years of Apple.
Damn, I'm so confused...
No April fools, please.
And also 40 years of Apple.
Damn, I'm so confused...
My experiences with Windows 10
from the perspective of everyday usage and a graphic designer
I've been using Win10 now for a while because I seriously think of switching if Apple doesn't deliver with their next iteration of Macs. Unfortunately my personal experience with Windows 10 was less than glorious in my everyday workflow. Here's some experiences that might some of you inspire to switch, stay or don't give a damn whatsoever! I'd like to hear some input from you guys.
the positive
I hope this was some insight for the "maybe switchers" one way or another. I'd LOVE to like Windows 10, but coming from Mac OS and the whole ecosystem and habits I have working with my computer, it's REALLY hard to do!
from the perspective of everyday usage and a graphic designer
I've been using Win10 now for a while because I seriously think of switching if Apple doesn't deliver with their next iteration of Macs. Unfortunately my personal experience with Windows 10 was less than glorious in my everyday workflow. Here's some experiences that might some of you inspire to switch, stay or don't give a damn whatsoever!
I'd like to hear some input from you guys.the positive
- Windows 10 has come a long way. It feels snappy and blazingly fast, I cannot comment on the windows-drag that will appear over time because the system gets cluttered with old files and it's still based on the registry and dll files.
- gaming, if you're into it, is well integrated into Windows (not a big plus for me personally)
- you can customize many aspects of the OS, Win 10 is not the tile-abomination Windows 8 was. Unless you want to.
- Adobe Creative Suite runs just as fine as it runs on Mac OS
- Windows 10 makes the best from available system ressources and even battery efficiency on laptops is FAR improved over Windows 7 or Linux Mint.
- In many weeks of usage it was running stable with no bluescreen of death or anything else interrupting my workflow.
- the appearance of Windows is inconsistent, in the deeper system settings, menues look like from Windows 7 and of course since Windows relies on many third party apps for basic functions that are otherwise included in Mac OS they also can look slightly different, using icons and symbols from all iterations of windows
- Win10 spies on you. A lot. Switching off all the spying (which is by default on) takes the better half of the installation routine and even after that you have to rely on third party software to KEEP your settings switched off, otherwise MS will reactivate them with every update without telling you.
- the default photo-app is abysmal and has to load each and every picture on its own. Preview on Mac OS allows me to look at a bigger preview version of almost any file (not only JPGs, PNGs, and RAW files, also adobe files are natively supported in Mac OS) by just pressing the space bar. Not so in Windows 10. For all that functionality you need additional software.
- Xbox and gaming, the MS Store and generally your "MS Account" is so heavily integrated in the system and forced down your throat it's annoying at best. During installation the option to just create a local user is cleverly hidden under a tiny text-link, you're encouraged to log in with your LIVE account, OR create one (which ties in wonderfully with all the spying).
- It's planned to display ads on your login-screen (optimized by all the spying). Belch.
- When working with many files and folders in Indesign when setting up a magazine, Mac OS allows me to see the last 5 used folders in the OS-dialogue for "import file" or "open file" - this saves a lot of time and many many clicks during the course of a work-laden day. Not so in Windows, either way I'm too dumb to do it otherwise or I really HAVE to click my whole way through the whole folder structure each and every time.
- Just the other day I was at a customers and set up an online bookkeeping and organizing system, he's really a nut with computers so I decided to set him up the webpage for the system in a link-file and put it onto the taskbar for one-click-access. I was in NO WAY able to attach that link file to the taskbar. I tried dragging it on it, to no avail, tried right-clicking the file hoping or an option "attach to taskbar" to appear - nope. I gave up and it resides on the desktop now. Small thing, yet it seemed so illogical to me.
- Windows SEARCH sucks... compared to spotlight. On its own its a nice addition many Mac users have been used to for a long time. But in direct comparison... it shows results completely randomly and for example - I was looking for the executable for the Mail program - I found no way of "showing the file in the explorer" - on its location. I can just CLICK and execute it. Also a huge negative for me, because manually looking for the file in the Program folder also didn't bring me any results. There was a folder for the mailing app but no executable (to create a link upon).
- The APP store/marketplace is a MESS. It's nothing like what we're used to from Mac OS. Don't like it at all, even though it's heavily integrated into the system - you CAN though remove tiles, functions and features with relative ease, even "downgrading" your start menue to something that looks like it's from windows 7 (only in modern design of course, but without all those tiles).
I hope this was some insight for the "maybe switchers" one way or another. I'd LOVE to like Windows 10, but coming from Mac OS and the whole ecosystem and habits I have working with my computer, it's REALLY hard to do!
Great, thanks for sharing your experience!
One short question: does Windows 10 have something like the OSX Spaces?
Maybe it sounds silly, but for me it's seriously one of the most useful things in OSX.
One short question: does Windows 10 have something like the OSX Spaces?
Maybe it sounds silly, but for me it's seriously one of the most useful things in OSX.
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