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Hey guys, let's all relax, ok? :)
Meanwhile, I was searching benchmarks or reviews of the Skull Canyon NUC, aka of our beloved Iris Pro 580.
This is the only thing that I found

How much performance does that [Iris Pro 580] add up to? On one Skull Canyon NUC we played the new game Just Cause 3 at 1920x1080 resolution, with frame rates in the low- to mid-30s. For PC gamers that’s, well, not great, but for integrated graphics, that’s actually pretty impressive.

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3045...nuc-the-most-powerful-game-ready-mini-pc.html

Any thoughts?
 
If you insist on maintaining your 10 and 15 year-old legacy peripherals (for whatever reason), then it seems like a pretty elegant solution.

Frankly, I don't want all these holes in my machine just because there are guys like you who have SD cards for their digital camera and want to connect their laptop to an old Sony LCD TV or whatever.

Oppenheim, I was leaning more towards your argument until you said this ^

When you start looking at legacy stuff, USB 2 is barely in the race of "cutting it". USB 1.0 died when Windows 98 support died. Don't get me started on PATA drives. When was the last time you used a Parallel port? A 56k modem (or even a 28k modem).
 
Hey guys, let's all relax, ok? :)
Meanwhile, I was searching benchmarks or reviews of the Skull Canyon NUC, aka of our beloved Iris Pro 580.
This is the only thing that I found



source:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3045...nuc-the-most-powerful-game-ready-mini-pc.html

Any thoughts?
Minimums were 30 FPS. GTX 950M on high has on average between 24 and 27 FPS in this game. Average, so minimums are lower than that. But we have to wait for reviews. As I said, I think it will be on par with GTX950M.
 
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Dude, I am soo ready for these badboys to come. Iris Pro 580 will be a beast (more than enough for my mobile graphic needs). And a new design for the rMBP will be sick. I am slowly getting excited for the machines man!
 
Dude, I am soo ready for these badboys to come. Iris Pro 580 will be a beast (more than enough for my mobile graphic needs). And a new design for the rMBP will be sick. I am slowly getting excited for the machines man!
Hold your horses, that 30 FPS could have been on medium or low settings, tho :D.

However, for games like Diablo 3 it should be able to get 60FPS in 1080p constantly on at least high settings. Heroes of the Storm also should be able to get 60 FPS in that resolution, at least on medium.
 
yes, but i was asking with thunderbolt 3 in the next MBP we still need native usb 3.1 to have?
 
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yes, but i was asking with thunderbolt 3 in the next MBP we still need native usb 3.1 to have?

Technically not because if a port supports Thunderbolt 3, it should support USB 3.1. But not all USB C ports do not necessarily carry the 3.1 transmission speed.
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Why not make it Cannonlake?


Just saw that multiple Swedish computer parts sellers estimate that they have the 6970HQ in stock April 11th.

Sure, but then you might be waiting another year or more for a Cannonlake MBP. We're talking Q3 or 4 2017 atleast.
 
Sure, but then you might be waiting another year or more for a Cannonlake MBP. We're talking Q3 or 4 2017 atleast.

I was kidding. They won't be waiting for Kaby Lake or Cannonlake as Skylake is good to go and Kaby Lake won't be good to go for atleast I year (I'm guessing).
 
I was kidding. They won't be waiting for Kaby Lake or Cannonlake as Skylake is good to go and Kaby Lake won't be good to go for atleast I year (I'm guessing).

Cannonlake is scheduled for H2 2017, but who knows if or when the appropriate mobile chips will come out for Kaby Lake.
 
Just bought a number of Precision 5510 laptops for my design department. Apple has been telling pro users to go away for awhile now, and we've completed our transition.

We were once Apple top to bottom. Xserves, Mac Pros, MBP's.

First the xserves were abandoned.

The workstation market has been abandoned.

I had been holding out for a Skylake MBP, but even if one ships, then what? It'll hang around for at least a year without an update, have too little memory, too few ports, etc.

We'll keep one or two around for the occasional Mac-only software. And I plan to still user them at home where performance isn't much a concern.

I haven't had a windows laptop in over 10 years but I'm excited to try!
 
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Technically not because if a port supports Thunderbolt 3, it should support USB 3.1. But not all USB C ports do not necessarily carry the 3.1 transmission speed.
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Sure, but then you might be waiting another year or more for a Cannonlake MBP. We're talking Q3 or 4 2017 atleast.

However, wouldn't a Cannonlake redesign be more suitable than a Skylake redesign. From Broadwell to Skylake, 14nm transistors are still retained...it's the Cannonlake 10nm that would would require a chassis redesign, unless the sockets are the same.

But I'm sure Apple will end up redesigning this WWDC, just goes against logic though.
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I think I heard Intel fired their mobile chip guy- possible due to all the delays

Great.
 
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Just bought a number of Precision 5510 laptops for my design department. Apple has been telling pro users to go away for awhile now, and we've completed our transition.

We were once Apple top to bottom. Xserves, Mac Pros, MBP's.

First the xserves were abandoned.

The workstation market has been abandoned.

I had been holding out for a Skylake MBP, but even if one ships, then what? It'll hang around for at least a year without an update, have too little memory, too few ports, etc.

We'll keep one or two around for the occasional Mac-only software. And I plan to still user them at home where performance isn't much a concern.

I haven't had a windows laptop in over 10 years but I'm excited to try!

Be interested to here how you get on with those...what made you choose that model and not a Lenovo P50 say?

I'm hopefully hanging on till the macs come, then I'll compare and choose...apprehension at going back to Windows being the main issue ...
 
Courtesy of, the folks over at Anandtech (Sweepr) found some benches comparing the Macbook Pro 2015 13" to the Vaio Z Flip (which uses a processor suitable for rMBP 2016 13"). Looks like a little more than 2x performance ?
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Courtesy of, the folks over at Anandtech (Sweepr) found some benches comparing the Macbook Pro 2015 13" to the Vaio Z Flip (which uses a processor suitable for rMBP 2016 13"). Looks like a little more than 2x performance ?

I can't wait to see some similar comparisons of the 580, when it eventually comes out. That would probably be the first actual concrete thing for this thread to discuss :p

My random best-guess is it will sit somewhere between a 940M-GDDR5 and the 950M.
 
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And how it that happen if 950m at full hd extra high in metal gear solid 5 is 2.67x (!) faster than iris 550 and in Metro last light 2.05x times faster? And iris 580 is like 1.5 of iris 550 on spec so less in real life scenario. Also mobile pascal and polaris is on the corner. And as far I remeber you were sure that iris 550 will be on pair with 940m ddr5, nope, it isn't ;)

Maybe you should get a PC if you want to play demanding games? Macs are not really made for that.
Not only that, but I don't see the point of arguing about average dGPUs when TB3 will let you put any monster GPU losing only about 20% of its performance, yes, it will be expensive, but if you want a cheaper solution just go back reading my first line. Sorry, but dGPUs are almost dead in laptops, and about to (totally) die in Macbook Pros. Too many flaws (more points of failure, memory sharing overheat, more power consumption thus less battery, less thermal headroom for the CPU/iGPU and other components...) for just a little bit more power that iGPUs can bring.
 
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Damn! That is lowest ever!! should you buy it tho? that is the real question

Yah, I bought it. Pretty decent deal and I needed one for work and writing. If a shiny new Skylake rMBP is released later this year I figure I can sell this one and just eat the difference.
 
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