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YUSSS That's what I'm talking about, Jony!

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YUSSS That's what I'm talking about, Jony!

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Not gonna lie, I would buy the **** out of that gold one. But in all seriousness, I'm very close to buying a SurfaceBook or a Razer Blade.

The only thing holding me back is how much I love the integration of iMessage, Photos, etc.
Plz Apple. Plz.
 
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What if Apple dearest did something crazy:

MacBook - 12 inch - Core M processor
MacBook "Air" (but with Retina display) - 13 or 14 inch - Dual Core i5/i7 processor
MacBook Pro - 15 or 16 inch - Quad Core processor

But then again, is it that crazy? :O

The 13 inch Air and 13 inch Pro are relatively similar aside from a few things (screen, processor, etc.) but if they were to join them and make the MacBook Pro 13 inch as thin as or maybe even thinner than the Air, designate that as the MacBook Air line. Then the larger (15 or 16) MacBook is designated for professional (ahem, prosumer) user.

The only issue I have with this is compromise. What processor would they use in the 13-inch Air/Pro hybrid? Would it include Iris 550 or something lower?

Seems logic. 13" MBP is not a pro laptop anymore, let's be honest... It's just a dual core that performs good, but any intensive task (video editing, rendering, mixing high quality audio...) will need at least the 15" quad core power. An Air with i7 performs the same as a 13" MBP, and slightly worse than the same MBP with i7.
So if they let the MB be the new 11" MBA, make the 13" MBP thinner and put it the MBA label, and mantain the 15" as the MBP, it will make sense. But seeing how they labeled the 10" iPad "Pro", when it was the Air before (and the 13" was the Pro), I guess Apple won't reduce their Macbook lines. Btw, Apple has a freaking mess with their labels and product lines.

@WRONG Right, I mentioned GTX1080m to put a high performance level dGPU as an example, but they will probably go Polaris. The point was that Apple used to put GT750m, MX370, and all these kind of dGPUs that are quite average performing, similar to the Iris 580. I'm very interested in the eGPU solutions, and since there are only 2 as you said, more will jump on the wagon because its the future of "mobile" GPU power. And by mobile I mean that you can put a desktop GPU in a laptop, thing that was quite tricky to do (and not full supported).
 
Seems logic. 13" MBP is not a pro laptop anymore, let's be honest... It's just a dual core that performs good, but any intensive task (video editing, rendering, mixing high quality audio...) will need at least the 15" quad core power. An Air with i7 performs the same as a 13" MBP, and slightly worse than the same MBP with i7.
So if they let the MB be the new 11" MBA, make the 13" MBP thinner and put it the MBA label, and mantain the 15" as the MBP, it will make sense. But seeing how they labeled the 10" iPad "Pro", when it was the Air before (and the 13" was the Pro), I guess Apple won't reduce their Macbook lines. Btw, Apple has a freaking mess with their labels and product lines.

Hard to disagree. What once used to actually be a pro model is now just a pretty screen and a really old processor with an iGPU that's beginning to run out of steam. If this is the trend, it would be better to kill off the 13" pro, since there's nothing pro about it.
 
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in this case..there is no pro laptop out there...the pro products are only the one with dual gpu pr xeon cpu and that it
 
Been lurking this thread for months. Both entertaining and great way to deal with the delays (misery loves company).

My perspective on the new MBPs is very simple: all I care about is 32GB of RAM. And the longer these delays go on, the more likely we'll get it as an option. And if it doesn't happen, I may have to seriously consider moving from a laptop for a main machine back to a desktop (Mac Pro).

Hoping for WWDC or earlier release.
 
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Polaris 11 spotted with 16 CU, that depending on core count in every Compute Unit should have 1024 GCN cores.

We are looking at at least desktop GTX 960 levels of performance in 115 mm2, and 25W GPU.
 
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Oh, so a dGPU isn't needed after all. HPC data centre far better (cheaper and performance) for all day processing.
You misunderstand. It's not necessary for the dGPU to be active at all times. It kicks in when it is needed. This is the current implementation as well.



Like a conspiracy theorist, you saw universal truths that aren't there.
Non-answer.


Figured as much.


That's for the design team. Most people don't know what's good for them.
If only they had the sage advice of Oppenheim. The guy on Macrumors that knows what every user needs better than they do themselves.
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Polaris 11 spotted with 16 CU, that depending on core count in every Compute Unit should have 1024 GCN cores.

We are looking at at least desktop GTX 960 levels of performance in 115 mm2, and 25W GPU.
Can't wait to see more on Polaris.
 
It is cut down part. Full P11 is 1280 GCN4 core GPU. With performance levels of GTX 970M. But possibly 1/3 of TDP. Everything depends how Primitive Discard Accelerator will work in every scenario. At 1 GHz core clock P11 should have 2.5 TFLOPs of compute performance. Lowering it to 850 MHz would bring 2 TFLOPs. Compute performance roughly the same as FirePro D300 from Mac Pro, but in a drop of power consumed. Other thing is gaming performance. And that will be completely different. SIMD vs SIMD you can expect performance of Maxwell GPU, or slightly better.

So think about it this way: 1280 GCN core GPU can be slightly faster than 1280 CUDA core GPU that has the same core clock. And 1280 CUDA core GPU from Nvidia is... GTX 970M.
 
$2,000 13" (non retina) MBP*
$2,400 21" iMac
$2,700 13" rMBP
$3100 15" rMBP

Guess Apple has some practise with iGPU selling for $2,000 and up if you max out SSD & memory (which they can force your hand with if they're not user accessible to upgrade).


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*To put that one in perspective: iPad Pro 12.9" Wifi Cellular 256GB, Smart Keyboard, Smart Case, Pencil, USB-C 29W charger and USB-C cable is $1760
 
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$2,000 13" (non retina) MBP
$2,400 21" iMac
$2,700 13" rMBP
$3100 15" rMBP

Guess Apple has some practise with iGPU selling for $2,000 and up if you max out SSD & memory (which they can force your hand with if they're not user accessible to upgrade).
Wow that 13" non-retina is just ridiculous.
 
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yea that 13" non retina is ridiculous?? take a look at their thunderbolt display with the same price at $999
i really think apple forgot about them
 
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Now a new thinner watch rumored for WWDC, hope that's not bad news for the MBP releases.
If they don't come by June I'm going to ... (not sure what)
 
The only issue I have with this is compromise. What processor would they use in the 13-inch Air/Pro hybrid? Would it include Iris 550 or something lower?
as i said in my previous post, if you check the geekbench of the current air and 13" pro, you'll see they got really close. that points toward a merge of the two lines (eg. only one 13/14" model).
the highest graphics in the 15w cpus (the ones that the air has, to be clear) is the iris 540.
iris 550 has the same cores but higher frequency.

if i were apple, i'll make the lineup like this:
12" -> macbook mini
14" -> macbook
16" -> macbook pro

but it seems they still haven't figured out a consistent way to call their products...
mac mini - imac (?) - mac pro
iphone se (?) - 6s - 6s plus (!?)
ipad mini3 - air2 - pro9.7 - pro12.9 (???)
see what i mean?
 
i really hope a MBP with LTE option
laptops with sim cards (or virtual sim, whatever) seems like something everyone would love to have, but no one (very few actually) offers... why???
tethering is just not the same thing, imo.
 
laptops with sim cards (or virtual sim, whatever) seems like something everyone would love to have, but no one (very few actually) offers... why???
tethering is just not the same thing, imo.
since apple already put a sealed sim into the 9.7" ipad pro .. i think this is the future that apple is telling us.
any macbook will have i think. even that rumour with an small intern battery for imac and mac pro that prevents your computer shut down instant because of your power outlet and run for another 5-10 min on battery so you have time to shut down your mac properly
 
How would anyone here know?
I was just asking what people thought about IGZO and whether they think it'll be implemented or not.

As for anyone knowing anything here, well no one knows anything. Apple knows. Not us. However, in that case, this thread shouldn't even exist, yet it does. Why? For the mere purpose of speculation, and that's all I was doing, speculating. And that's what we're all doing, speculating, so I was merely contributing to that speculation.

I don't know why you have to be all sassy about that.
 
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