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Been lurking on here for wayyyy too long (since 2007 lol).

Anyone see the news about Bash coming to Windows 10? (http://arstechnica.com/information-...dows-10-preview-with-bash-support-is-out-now/)

I've been waiting for a MBP update for quite some time, but this kind of changes the landscape for me. I'm gonna try out the preview to see how it all goes, but having Bash will certainly make windows feel less crappy for the development of web-ish things. After all, I should now be able to brew or wget from Windows and that's pretty huge. A unix command line is what really tied me to mac, but if my dev won't feel second class on Windows I might be a convert.

Just food for thought.

I am also thinking about going 100% Win10 if this thing works out. Windows 10 will be able to emulate Linux kernel calls meaning it will be MORE NATIVE as comparing to OSX's BSD which still require recompiling. OSX is POSIX compliant which a lot of developer like because they can run/compile source code just like they do on Linux so they can test server deployment that uses npm/ruby rake/redis etc. However, with linux subsystem coming to Win10, this is no longer necessary. A lot of people don't really care about OSX user interface but stay in OSX because "POSIX complianceness". Very excited and happy to see Microsoft embraces Linux and make Win10 more developer friendly.
 
I envy you coding guys for your relatively easy switch to W10 as an option. Well graphics-design in a one-man-show of a mobile business is a bit tougher. I so hope for something reasonable.
 
I envy you coding guys for your relatively easy switch to W10 as an option. Well graphics-design in a one-man-show of a mobile business is a bit tougher. I so hope for something reasonable.

I would have thought switching easier for a graphic designer?

Are you tied to any Mac only programs?
 
If – I assume – you are using Creative Cloud, Adobe will allow you a switch from Mac to PC. Or are there apps that are specific for iPad/Mac? (Curious.)

Edit: I posted a second before you :)
 
I would have thought switching easier for a graphic designer?

Are you tied to any Mac only programs?

No I'm not, I'm mainly using Adobe Creative Cloud. Without elaborating too much (because I've done so several times a few pages back already and don't want to bore mainstay readers) it's the way Windows handles files and how the OS itself impacts my productivity and workflow. I work with a large amount of files for different customers each day, building brochures, magazines and catalogues and "preview" alone is a mac-only killer feature that saves me copious amounts of time identifying files and different versions of photos on the fly with just the press of the spacebar. Spotlight is unrivaled by W10's search. Also I still feel more secure on a Mac operating system having had only 2 crashes in 8 years of work (once it was the fusion drive configuration going bad and the other time some major adobe hiccup which had to be patched out the next day). I'm running W10 on a small backup-laptop (for exotic filetypes i.e. garbage files some customers send me) and I really like W10 compared to every other Windows, but after many tries, I just can't get the same kind of workflow in my daily routine. Still trying to though, not giving up yet because if Apple doesn't deliver a "people who work on it for a living"-macbook pro I might have to think about options.
 
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No I'm not, I'm mainly using Adobe Creative Cloud. Without elaborating too much (because I've done so several times a few pages back already and don't want to bore mainstay readers) it's the way Windows handles files and how the OS itself impacts my productivity and workflow. I work with a large amount of files for different customers each day, building brochures, magazines and catalogues and "preview" alone is a mac-only killer feature that saves me copious amounts of time identifying files and different versions of photos on the fly with just the press of the spacebar. Spotlight is unrivaled by W10's search. Also I still feel more secure on a Mac operating system having had only 2 crashes in 8 years of work (once it was the fusion drive configuration going bad and the other time some major adobe hiccup which had to be patched out the next day). I'm running W10 on a small backup-laptop (for exotic filetypes i.e. garbage files some customers send me) and I really like W10 compared to every other Windows, but after many tries, I just can't get the same kind of workflow in my daily routine. Still trying to though, not giving up yet because if Apple doesn't deliver a "people who work on it for a living"-macbook pro I might have to think about options.

The 'switch' would be easier for me, but I haven't used a Windows system ( fully) since around 2007...could always stick it on my old laptop and have a look!
 
So, i had to succumb and purchase a current 13" & 15" to replace some outdated mbp's here (2010's) and while i'm not too pleased about no updates to the 15" at the recent event, once i got over the 'hate', i must say, the 15" flies compared to the 2010....so much so i may even have a Viking burial for the old fella :p

Will still sell immediately for a Skylake when (if? ha) it comes out though!
 
sup guys? just to inform you: I'm still waiting for my new macbook... and with each day without a release I'm sure something "new" is coming :) can't wait :) I hope it's worth it :)
 
I am a Audio Engineer and I am in need of a new computer because my laptop is dying.
I am waiting since January and now I am quite annoyed.
I have some big jobs outside my studio where I have to travel around Europe in the next months and I have to pack my mac mini, because my 13MBP is not powerful enough, that is something I do not want to do.
I am ready to spend big money on a machine but I do not want to buy a 2 years old CPU and old ports.

I am concerned because apple to my eyes seems to not care anymore about working professionals, personally I do not care about all this BS about space grey or pink for MBP and is a clear signs that they do not care about productivity but more about style.
When I switched to mac 8 years ago it was a 'wow' moment for me because audio performance were much better on Macs.
Now I would like to switch to a Win machine but unfortunately the 'audio' world is much more settled on Macs. Also a device like the Dell xps 15 does not seems as well built as a MBP and the Mac customer service, for a freelance that rely on its computer for a living, seems the best.
I want to switch but there are few things that do not make this thing possible!
 
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Now I would like to switch to a Win machine but unfortunately the 'audio' world is much more settled on Macs.

I don't know what kind of super specific software and plugins do you use, but almost 95% of all audio software(almost every plugin and DAW) is for both OS platforms.
 
I am a Audio Engineer and I am in need of a new computer because my laptop is dying.
I am waiting since January and now I am quite annoyed.
I have some big jobs outside my studio where I have to travel around Europe in the next months and I have to pack my mac mini, because my 13MBP is not powerful enough, that is something I do not want to do.
I am ready to spend big money on a machine but I do not want to buy a 2 years old CPU and old ports.

I am concerned because apple to my eyes seems to not care anymore about working professionals, personally I do not care about all this BS about space grey or pink for MBP and is a clear signs that they do not care about productivity but more about style.
When I switched to mac 8 years ago it was a 'wow' moment for me because audio performance were much better on Macs.
Now I would like to switch to a Win machine but unfortunately the 'audio' world is much more settled on Macs. Also a device like the Dell xps 15 does not seems as well built as a MBP and the Mac customer service, for a freelance that rely on its computer for a living, seems the best.
I want to switch but there are few things that do not make this thing possible!

I can relate alot to this too!

The new quad-core CPU with Intel Iris Pro 580 graphics will most likely be more powerful than the CPU in your mac mini.
If I were you, I would wait until WWDC in june, where Apple will most likely announce the new redesigned MacBook Pro's. You could then choose the most powerful CPU and RAM configuration.
As far as I can find both 13-inch MBP and Mac Mini have dual-core CPU's. So getting a 15" inch laptop with a quad core processor will by itself show a significant boost in performance over the dual-core cpu's.

The only downside of getting the new MacBook Pro I could then think of, is port compatibility.
If Apple decides not to include a USB-A 3.1 port, then ALOT of external audio interfaces and DAC's will have to have an adapter or a new USB-A to USB-C cable.
Both of these options might add latency so I am very curious how things are going to pan out for us.
(And we all know Apple will charge us a nice fat price for such a simple cable/adapter)

Alot of studios might have to switch to USB-C, or even better, Thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces and DAC's. It would be great to have some new & improved gear that's growing with the advancement of technology, but it will definitely not be great for our wallets.

 
I am a Audio Engineer and I am in need of a new computer because my laptop is dying.
I am waiting since January and now I am quite annoyed.
I have some big jobs outside my studio where I have to travel around Europe in the next months and I have to pack my mac mini, because my 13MBP is not powerful enough, that is something I do not want to do.
I am ready to spend big money on a machine but I do not want to buy a 2 years old CPU and old ports.

I am concerned because apple to my eyes seems to not care anymore about working professionals, personally I do not care about all this BS about space grey or pink for MBP and is a clear signs that they do not care about productivity but more about style.
When I switched to mac 8 years ago it was a 'wow' moment for me because audio performance were much better on Macs.
Now I would like to switch to a Win machine but unfortunately the 'audio' world is much more settled on Macs. Also a device like the Dell xps 15 does not seems as well built as a MBP and the Mac customer service, for a freelance that rely on its computer for a living, seems the best.
I want to switch but there are few things that do not make this thing possible!
your mac mini is more powerful than 13" MBP? what specs do you have on both?
 
I don't know what kind of super specific software and plugins do you use, but almost 95% of all audio software(almost every plugin and DAW) is for both OS platforms.

It is true but..
- 95% of my clients come to me with mac hard-drive and sessions.
- few plugins that I use are mac only
- A lot of hardware still interface with Firewire (Kyma Pacarana) that works better with Mac
- Some company are switching to support more Windows (UAD with their new interface) but it seems to me still not reliable as with mac
- Core Audio on mac is really good for both audio and midi routing


I can relate alot to this too!

The new quad-core CPU with Intel Iris Pro 580 graphics will most likely be more powerful than the CPU in your mac mini.
If I were you, I would wait until WWDC in june, where Apple will most likely announce the new redesigned MacBook Pro's. You could then choose the most powerful CPU and RAM configuration.
As far as I can find both 13-inch MBP and Mac Mini have dual-core CPU's. So getting a 15" inch laptop with a quad core processor will by itself show a significant boost in performance over the dual-core cpu's.

The only downside of getting the new MacBook Pro I could then think of, is port compatibility.
If Apple decides not to include a USB-A 3.1 port, then ALOT of external audio interfaces and DAC's will have to have an adapter or a new USB-A to USB-C cable.
Both of these options might add latency so I am very curious how things are going to pan out for us.
(And we all know Apple will charge us a nice fat price for such a simple cable/adapter)

Alot of studios might have to switch to USB-C, or even better, Thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces and DAC's. It would be great to have some new & improved gear that's growing with the advancement of technology, but it will definitely not be great for our wallets.

My macmini is Quad-core and is a beast compared to my MBP that is dual core. (they are both i7 that I think for audio is great with its virtual cores)
I honestly do not think that the adapters will add a sensible amount of latency but surely we will have to spend a lot of money on adapters.
Thunderbolt interfaces are already a reality in a lot of studios and I , if I buy a new mac, will make the switch to a UAD Apollo Thunderbolt.
 
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My macmini is Quad-core and is a beast compared to my MBP that is dual core.

I didn't know Mac Mini's could have a Quad-core cpu. I checked the Apple website just now and couldn't find an option for a quadcore, only dual core.

Nice choice with the Apollo Twin Thunderbolt! Wish I had the money for it!
 
I didn't know Mac Mini's could have a Quad-core cpu. I checked the Apple website just now and couldn't find an option for a quadcore, only dual core.

Nice choice with the Apollo Twin Thunderbolt! Wish I had the money for it!
the macmini5,3 and macmini6,2 both have quad core CPUs
 
I didn't know Mac Mini's could have a Quad-core cpu. I checked the Apple website just now and couldn't find an option for a quadcore, only dual core.

It had Quad-Core cpus before Apple decided to "upgrade" it.

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Guys, I don't know why this hasn't been picked up yet, but have you seen this patent of Apple:

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Source

Do you think they would use such a keyboard on the new MBPs? Maybe it's just for the new rMB or for no laptops at all.

It's just that the direction they're heading to doesn't put my fears to rest. The never ending hunt for ultra thinness and portability....they are bound to make some "Innovation" mistakes.

Although utilizing the haptic feedback with the magnets, etc. it could work.

Well, we need to see the new MBPs at WWDC, can't wait any longer and I can't justify buying a 2 year old spec machine at such a price.

P.S.: Sorry if this has been posted earlier.
 
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I imagine the patent is just because Apple wanted to patent it (ie protect something they were exploring). That doesnt mean they intend to use it.
 
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my new xps 15 16gb 4k touch display will arrive tomorrow - I will test it with all new firmware and driver updates.
I hope most of the problems are ironed out -- we will see and I hope I have time to report it here
nowadays I use both systems macox x and windows 10 and sometimes I have to think to figure out which one I am actually using ...
my most important problem with windows 10 is the more or less difficult 1:1 backup of all the system (bootable)
 
I didn't know Mac Mini's could have a Quad-core cpu. I checked the Apple website just now and couldn't find an option for a quadcore, only dual core.

Nice choice with the Apollo Twin Thunderbolt! Wish I had the money for it!

It's the infamous late 2012 macmini that I'm also holding onto until the end of days (or OS upgrades from Apple). It's rocking a quad i7 2,6 GHz, 16 GB Ram, Intel HD, 512 GB Samsung Evo Pro SSD, 1TB 7.200 rpm HSGT Hard Disk all in this small package. At the time of buying it was tremendous value for money for around 800 and all upgrades to hard disk and ram done myself as you could still open and service it yourself.

All that is now crippled by Apple, a true dick move. it's dual core only now (and the latest models are WAY weaker than my late 2012) and they still sell them with starting gigs of 4 GB, the backpanel that you could remove from the mini to do your upgrades is now soldered shut as are the rams, soldered onto the logic board. What a crap.
 
It had Quad-Core cpus before Apple decided to "upgrade" it.

Qq3nhtk.jpg

This truly boggles my mind to this day. The Mini had a ton of potential with the rise of Intel iGPU's. A Skylake Mac mini with a 6770HQ, Iris Pro 580, upgradeable RAM/HDD/SSD like the 2012 model would be a real nice, compact, powerhouse for the money.
 
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It had Quad-Core cpus before Apple decided to "upgrade" it.

Qq3nhtk.jpg

I am really concerned that apple does not care anymore about pro-performances also the last update to the MacPro was 2 years and a half ago, this is insane.
Steve Jobs created ipod/ipad/iphone but for him the pro-market was always a priority, the 'new' metal seems just phones, watch bands and pink metal
 
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I am really concerned that apple does not care anymore about pro-performances also the last update to the MacPro was 2 years and a half ago, this is insane.
Steve Jobs created ipod/ipad/iphone but for him the pro-market was always a priority, the 'new' metal seems just phones, watch bands and pink metal

Apple was dragging its feet about updating the Mac Pro well before Steve Jobs left his mortal coil, my friend.
 
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