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Different question, do you think there will be a dGPU 13inch mbp model? I'd love to see it because of the portability and working with a second screen would be great when not on the go!
 
I am really concerned that apple does not care anymore about pro-performances also the last update to the MacPro was 2 years and a half ago, this is insane.
Steve Jobs created ipod/ipad/iphone but for him the pro-market was always a priority, the 'new' metal seems just phones, watch bands and pink metal

Unfortunately, the buyer's guide shows where Apple's priority's are. Watch bands, iPhones, and getting people to switch to iPad Pros. It's fairly obvious that the Mac has become a side job, like the iPods.

Meanwhile, the competition is either catching up or has caught up. If Apple doesn't switch up soon, my rMBP and iMac may be my last Macs.
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Different question, do you think there will be a dGPU 13inch mbp model? I'd love to see it because of the portability and working with a second screen would be great when not on the go!


Doubt it. The Iris 550 is already keeping up with the low/mid-end Maxwell dGPUs. The 13" rMBP will probably perform on-par with the Surface Book's dGPU if it ever gets an update.
 
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I hope the new MacBook Pro's don't have the same fate as the Mac Mini, where they disable the potential of great performance.

When I come across an insanely powerful and fast laptop/computer, I always get so excited. Hopefully I won't be let down with the upcoming update(s)
 
Different question, do you think there will be a dGPU 13inch mbp model? I'd love to see it because of the portability and working with a second screen would be great when not on the go!

15" Model might not even have dGPU so very unlikely that the 13" will get one.

Alot of the eGPU ideas make sense, some have mentioned dGPU in an updated Cinema Display, but another good theory i've seen is that if Apple updates all Mac with TB3 then they can release either a low/mid/high option eGPU with TB3. One that contained a polaris type GPU could run on bus power. Enthusiasts can use something like the Razer Core or Apple can release an upgradable eGPU chassis themselves (unlikely, but still) that would work across all product lines.

It's easy money. Apple charge the same $$$ for the Macbook Pro, Mac Mini but remove dGPU so it's cheaper to build. Then create a reasonably powerful but mobile eGPU that you would see in a larger rig and sell it for $150 bucks.
 
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Apple was dragging its feet about updating the Mac Pro well before Steve Jobs left his mortal coil, my friend.
Exactly. Many people thinks this is the result of Apple being under Tim Cook, when in fact Jobs planned way ahead. Of course, Tim Cooks plays an important role but, he's not the only person that takes decisions. It's not a dictatorship. ;)
 
Apple was dragging its feet about updating the Mac Pro well before Steve Jobs left his mortal coil, my friend.

The longest update cycle was 685, at the moment we are at 844 with at least 60 more days to come, so I have to disagree

Exactly. Many people thinks this is the result of Apple being under Tim Cook, when in fact Jobs planned way ahead. Of course, Tim Cooks plays an important role but, he's not the only person that takes decisions. It's not a dictatorship. ;)

I never mentioned Tim Cook, but " 'new' apple " because I know that it is not mainly Cook that take this kind of decision, but share holders that are blind and just see easy revenues selling phones.
When Steve Jobs came back it was a dictatorship and for a company like apple it was a good thing.
 
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Different question, do you think there will be a dGPU 13inch mbp model? I'd love to see it because of the portability and working with a second screen would be great when not on the go!

Nope, thermals wouldn't allow it.
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15" Model might not even have dGPU so very unlikely that the 13" will get one.

Alot of the eGPU ideas make sense, some have mentioned dGPU in an updated Cinema Display, but another good theory i've seen is that if Apple updates all Mac with TB3 then they can release either a low/mid/high option eGPU with TB3. One that contained a polaris type GPU could run on bus power. Enthusiasts can use something like the Razer Core or Apple can release an upgradable eGPU chassis themselves (unlikely, but still) that would work across all product lines.

It's easy money. Apple charge the same $$$ for the Macbook Pro, Mac Mini but remove dGPU so it's cheaper to build. Then create a reasonably powerful but mobile eGPU that you would see in a larger rig and sell it for $150 bucks.

So we spend $2500 for a 15" high end rMBP with no dGPU, plus the cost of the eGPU chassis (and possibly the cost of the actual GPU card). All while making the whole thing about as elegant as lugging around an iMac between the office/home.
 
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The longest update cycle was 685, at the moment we are at 844 with at least 60 more days to come, so I have to disagree.

I have to disagree with your disagreement.
The MacRumors buyer's guide is somehow misleading, because the 2012 upgrade was really awful, and a lot of customers went mad with it. So you should count also the precedent upgrade, and then the numbers change: 1241 without update.
The matter is also similar for the iMac and the MacBook Pro.
 
I have to disagree with your disagreement.
The MacRumors buyer's guide is somehow misleading, because the 2012 upgrade was really awful, and a lot of customers went mad with it. So you should count also the precedent upgrade, and then the numbers change: 1241 without update.
The matter is also similar for the iMac and the MacBook Pro.

I have to disagree with your disagreement of my disagreement:
the fact that the update was not up to expectation is not a reason to say that apple did not update.

But having said that, do you feel that nowadays apple care about pro-workstations (Laptop and Desktop) as much as 5 years ago? (it is not a rhetorical question but I am really curious)
 
I'm so tired of waiting, we need at least some serious rumors !!
Wtf is going on ?
The lack of rumors is down to either of these possibilities:
1. Apple has managed to keep new parts secret.
2. We're looking at a simple internal Skylake refresh, with no design change.
 
I have to disagree with your disagreement of my disagreement:
the fact that the update was not up to expectation is not a reason to say that apple did not update.

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That "update" wasn't up to expectation. It was a fake update. After two years of waiting, the Mac Pro came with almost the same CPU, the same GPU and similar RAMs. Always with the same price o_O
I remember even how a lot of professional went crazy and create a petition to Apple.

Anyway no, of course now Apple care less about their pro-products. But it's a long story, it's not started 5 years ago, but even before.

Just another example: today KGI Analist came up with some rumors about the upcoming Apple Watch 2... and yet we don't have nothing about the next Macs. There are no rumors, at all, for all the Mac family.
This is really sad.
 
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I'm so tired of waiting, we need at least some serious rumors !!
Wtf is going on ?
nothing about the pros so far, but i'd expect at least the speed bump to the 12" MB within this week, which has been 'leaked' by some source code of osx .11.4.
i hope they won't wait for wwdc for that too..
it seems to me as if they have the products ready and wait for them to be released only when sales drop.
too many fanboys buying anything that comes in yellow/pink gold, methink ;)
 
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So I keep hearing about this "keyless keyboard" thing in the news due to the recent patent Apple filed for it, and I really hope that isn't implemented on the MacBooks.
Maybe in the MacBook, could make the device even thinner. If Apple finds a way to implement this without sacrificing typing experience all too much, they could make an extremely thin laptop in the future, considering more power efficient components will be invented.
 
Just another example: today KGI Analist came up with some rumors about the upcoming Apple Watch 2... and yet we don't have nothing about the next Macs. There are no rumors, at all, for all the Mac family.
This is really sad.

I am depressed :( lol
 
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So we spend $2500 for a 15" high end rMBP with no dGPU, plus the cost of the eGPU chassis (and possibly the cost of the actual GPU card). All while making the whole thing about as elegant as lugging around an iMac between the office/home.

I want dGPU as much as anyone else on this board but that doesn't jive with the thinness thing they have going over there. If they want to stuff an under clocked GPU into an inadequately cooled chassis, fine. Something has to give. We know they won't increase the thickness, the opposite is usually true on a redesign, so the dGPU would probably suffer or be removed if necessary.
 
The lack of rumors is down to either of these possibilities:
1. Apple has managed to keep new parts secret.
2. We're looking at a simple internal Skylake refresh, with no design change.

I fear number 2 is the case with some slight improvements.
 
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I want dGPU as much as anyone else on this board but that doesn't jive with the thinness thing they have going over there. If they want to stuff an under clocked GPU into an inadequately cooled chassis, fine. Something has to give. We know they won't increase the thickness, the opposite is usually true on a redesign, so the dGPU would probably suffer or be removed if necessary.

Agreed. Just hope they adjust price accordingly.
 
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