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You could use Bluetooth for both.
I am using, but i dont represent the masses
My world is wireless but im not selfish and i wonder from others perspective.
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Yes. With the lack of rumors there are few things I can say about the upcoming MBP with 100% certainty, but the inclusion of DDR4 is one of them.

That and:
  • USB type-c ports (At least one w/ thunderbolt 3)
  • All metal design
  • Thinner design
  • Colors
  • Butterfly keyboard
  • Force touch trackpad or some iteration (3D touch?)
  • Longer battery life
  • A **** ton of USB type-a and 3.5 mm ports. Just. Everywhere.
We already have force tracpad in both mbp , you didnt know?
 
I am using, but i dont represent the masses
My world is wireless but im not selfish and i wonder from others perspective.

I'm not selfish either, I just don't believe that Apple is going to include a lightning port on the MacBook just so you can plug in lightning EarPods.
 
I am using, but i dont represent the masses
My world is wireless but im not selfish and i wonder from others perspective.

Bluetooth is fine in my opinion. I recently got bluetooth earphones as a gift and after the initial pairing (which took a couple of seconds) they connect as fast as plugging a headphone jack. It's just turning them on or enabling bluetooth in my iPad/iPhone, the symbol flashes and boom. Done, the process is instant. There's a downside though. If I connect them to anything other than my iPhone or iPad, they won't connect automatically and have to pair (select manually from the bluetooth menu on the Settings app) them again, something you don't need to do with the good old as f*** (recently discovered fact) 3.5mm jack. Other than that, they are perfect.

EDIT: also forgot to mention the range...I was seriously underestimating bluetooth.
 
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Bluetooth is fine in my opinion. I recently got bluetooth earphones as a gift and after the initial pairing (which took a couple of seconds) they connect as fast as plugging a headphone jack. It's just turning them on or enabling bluetooth in my iPad/iPhone, the symbol flashes and boom. Done, the process is instant. There's a downside though. If I connect them to anything other than my iPhone or iPad, they won't connect automatically and have to pair (select manually from the bluetooth menu on the Settings app) them again, something you don't need to do with the good old as f*** (recently discovered fact) 3.5mm jack. Other than that, they are perfect.

EDIT: also forgot to mention the range...I was seriously underestimating bluetooth.
What model did you get ?
 
I actually didn't even think that that could have been sarcasm... I'm kinda embarrassed now :oops: didn't mean to tell anyone :)

Perhaps I was overly cryptic.

I actually meant "SuchInnovation" was being sarcastic and the person who shall remain nameless didn't catch it. The first line gives it away: "Zero functionality"
 
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Do you guys think Apple will keep MagSafe or ditch for USB C? I've never used MagSafe before but I've only heard good things about it.
 
AHAHAHAHA HOLY CRAP. I just actually took the time look at the first page of this thread.
Rumoured, based on the specs from wikipedia:
- 2015 launch

Oh man 2015 :D I'm interested to see how far solid state storage will have increased in terms of speed and size by then......

I plan on using my 2012 Retina Macbook till at least 2016. I tend to keep my computers between 4-5 years
SURPRISE BUDDY! YOU'RE IN LUCK!!!
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Do you guys think Apple will keep MagSafe or ditch for USB C? I've never used MagSafe before but I've only heard good things about it.


Actually, someone over on the redesign thread had a really nice idea about how Apple may go about doing this:
rather than usb-c, which is a waste of ports in a laptop, i'd imagine something like the smart connector of the ipads, flush to the case, attaches magnetically and stays in position.
basically like the magsafe, only without the recessed port. i can dream right?

I really hope they do something like this.
 
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Man, seriously, calm down.
It's not "your" Mac.
You're not special.

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Wasn't it Jim Morrison who said that?

This made me *so* happy.
 
I was actually thinking the inverse of this earlier. The smart connector on the iPad Pro seems to be capable of many things and perhaps a lot more that we don't know about. So what if Apple was to launch a iPP dock similar to the keyboard on the Surface Book? basically a rMBP without the screen that you could dock into and use the iPP as a display. That would be kinda cool, redundant but cool.

I'm recalling a scene from Ed, Edd & Eddy, the episode One + One = Ed. Edd, double-D, exclaims while vigorously writing notes in the midst of an ethereally morphing environment, "Hello! An original scene transition... interesting!" The start of the following scene is where I find us with Apple: completely in the dark.

Follow me here. Apple didn't like, or maybe didn't notice... hasn't consulted me regarding, at least, my suggestion to install an operating system on a cable that links their iOS devices together. Your idea here is essentially the same, but I won't reiterate my silly nudge to nabbing the Final Fantasy naming scheme for such an "OS X 2." Hear me out, it's four simple steps that obviate a magic:

1.) dock iPad Pro or such iOS device with Smart Connector
2.) app icons, Springboard, etc. react to physicality of the docking-motion
3.) logic falls into place, Dock & Finder rise to the screen
4.) MacOS device!

Now what the heck was the use-case that made connecting an iPhone to an iPad Lightning-to-Lightning-wise seem like such a profitable endeavor... "is Eddy rich yet!?" ;)
 
I was actually thinking the inverse of this earlier. The smart connector on the iPad Pro seems to be capable of many things and perhaps a lot more that we don't know about. So what if Apple was to launch a iPP dock similar to the keyboard on the Surface Book? basically a rMBP without the screen that you could dock into and use the iPP as a display. That would be kinda cool, redundant but cool.

Yeah seriously I could see this being great. iPad and the MacBook line merge together...to create a Surface Book style hybrid. You could use iOS when not plugged into the keyboard dock. And once the tablet/screen is plugged into the smart connector, the device could switch to Mac OS...and blocking all access to iOS. That way, iOS and Mac OS stay seperate in use, yet together in hardware. The IPPs speakers and screen are wonderful. Limitations are making the IPP as thin as the macbook lid, with thin bezels. Also theyd have to remove the touch id button, or somehow flush it with the display glass. Otherwise itll looke weired.Using a dual ARM/Intel CPU.... possibly ARM in screen...intel in base keyboard.

Man that would be the day though.

Alright enough fantasizing...back to agonizing till WWDC.:(
 
I really hope they don't drop the SDXC card slot with the new models! I've got a MiniDisk with 128 GB storage permanently inserted on the right side, and use it as a backup drive for all my important programs. Would be a shame if we lost that one. Of course, I suppose if a 2 TB SSD is made available the pain might go away, but I've really gotten to like that little MiniDisk!
 
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The 2TB SSD is only an option if you are prepared to donate your left kidney. Otherwise i am afraid i won't be able to afford the fantasy price Apple is calling for storage tiers.
 
420 pages and no rumors.
Please stop those whines. There were news about new macbooks earlier this month.

How else are they going to sell the Lightning headphones? You're living in the past. Get that credit card out NOW.

Lightning is an 'iDevices' feature I consider. Old slow connector. Iphone 7 (hopefully) will introduce USBC or lightning-2 (with higher speeds) connector. They will make own cables until 2020. Later in 2020 Apple will be forced to use one cable as the other manufacturers at least in European Union.

Speaking about other connectors than 3.5mm. They can switch it from 3,5mm to USBC but they will be forced to add 5-th USBC port instead. Do you imagine RMBP15 with 5x USB-C connectors? Personally, I don't!

Why 5-th? because now we have 2 TB2 ports + 2USB ports + 1 audio port. Means producer can connect all his 5 devices right now!

They can of course downgrade laptop ports wise and make consumer feel like cheated again and add 2-USBC + 1-USBC-TB3 + 1-USBC in place of audio port = 4. But then don't whine about 1 and only TB3.
 
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The highest sound quality (that which of interest to professionals) is through high quality speakers, not flimsy ear buds delivered via a 3.5mm that was forced to be reliable by trial and error over about 30/40 years than because a high quality designer was doing his/her job right.

These new air buds look fantastic - wireless charge em in the case. How cool is that? Those who want dangly wires can go and buy a flush USB-C to 3.5mm jack dongle. Please don't ruin my Mac just because you were born in the 1970s or 1980s.

Don't talk about audio equipment if you don't have any basic knowledge about it.

The simplified short version:
Digital input goes into DAC and gets converted to analog output.
Analog signal travels through a cable plugged into your headphone jack.
The analog signal drives your speakers, which vibrate to create audio.

You have to go analog anyway, there is no way around to drive any speaker in the world.
If the DAC is inside your device (like it is in today's consumer devices) you have to transmit the analog signal to the speaker. There are a few professional DACs (priced in the thousands, just for the DAC itself) which could benefit from a better cable connection, but any consumer stuff out there is not bottlenecked by the headphone jack or the cable.

If you are putting out digital signal over a cable to your speakers, you have to put a DAC into the speakers. Now speakers are getting more expensive and you have to make room for a good DAC inside headphones, while you just could use the (for 99.9% of users) perfectly fine DAC inside your computer. And before anybody asks: No, you can't remove the DAC inside the MacBook/iPhone/whatever, because you need it to drive your internal speakers.
 
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Don't talk about audio equipment if you don't have any basic knowledge about it.

The simplified short version:
Digital input goes into DAC and gets converted to analog output.
Analog signal travels through a cable plugged into your headphone jack.
The analog signal drives your speakers, which vibrate to create audio.

You have to go analog anyway, there is no way around to drive any speaker in the world.
If the DAC is inside your device (like it is in today's consumer devices) you have to transmit the analog signal to the speaker. There are a few professional DACs (priced in the thousands, just for the DAC itself) which could benefit from a better cable connection, but any consumer stuff out there is not bottlenecked by the headphone jack or the cable.

If you are putting out digital signal over a cable to your speakers, you have to put a DAC into the speakers. Now speakers are getting more expensive and you have to make room for a good DAC inside headphones, while you just could use the (for 99.9% of users) perfectly fine DAC inside your computer. And before anybody asks: No, you can't remove the DAC inside the MacBook/iPhone/whatever, because you need it to drive your internal speakers.

Wow. You know what a DAC is.

"You have to make room for a good DAC" :eek:

There's a LOT more to producing audio of the highest quality than a DAC.

I'm not convinced that the bandwidth and linearity of the headphones that most people use is of the highest quality.

Apple-approved and Apple-designed Bluetooth LE headphones seems the way forward to me. Sure, there are lots of very-high/high quality 3.5mm jack headphones on the market, but the 3.5mm audio jack seems such a constraint in terms of flimsyness, reliability and the wire itself. The benefits of all-wireless should be obvious. It gives you the freedom to walk around the studio and work/interact in ways that you weren't able to before. Plus, dangly wires don't look good.
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iPad/Macbook Pro hybrid?
You people scare the living **** out of me.
:(

I'd love to see the motherboard behind the screen of the new MBP. Keyboard clips on and off. Half the battery behind the screen, the other half under the keyboard.

This might be a bit 2020 though...
 
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Don't talk about audio equipment if you don't have any basic knowledge about it.

The simplified short version:
Digital input goes into DAC and gets converted to analog output.
Analog signal travels through a cable plugged into your headphone jack.
The analog signal drives your speakers, which vibrate to create audio.

You have to go analog anyway, there is no way around to drive any speaker in the world.
If the DAC is inside your device (like it is in today's consumer devices) you have to transmit the analog signal to the speaker. There are a few professional DACs (priced in the thousands, just for the DAC itself) which could benefit from a better cable connection, but any consumer stuff out there is not bottlenecked by the headphone jack or the cable.

If you are putting out digital signal over a cable to your speakers, you have to put a DAC into the speakers. Now speakers are getting more expensive and you have to make room for a good DAC inside headphones, while you just could use the (for 99.9% of users) perfectly fine DAC inside your computer. And before anybody asks: No, you can't remove the DAC inside the MacBook/iPhone/whatever, because you need it to drive your internal speakers.


Don't worry, USB-C is awesome.
In fact, USB-C can be used to transfer analog audio in accordance with the specification of the connector. It all comes down as to how that audio is transmitted.

The USB-C has sideband use pins (SBU1 and SBU2) which can be used for analog audio in audio adapter accessory mode. Use of the sideband pins should not impact data transfers and other vital functionality of USB-C cables, which should make them relatively simple from the engineering point of view. In this case, the USB-C connector will just replace the 3.5 mm mini jack and may even gain some additional features, such as a thermal sensor in an earpiece could measure temperature for fitness tracking.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10273...-cables-to-connect-headsets-to-mobile-devices

Edit: Also, I think the Lightning port can do the same thing because you can get a 3.5mm output form the iPhone dock which I doubt has a DAC.
 
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That's actually quite nice and might be an indicator for USB-C iPhones.


@Oppenheim
I don't even understand what you want to say, your reply isn't addressing anything I've mentioned.
As you've said, most headphones aren't studio quality, so what's your point about dropping the headphone jack for better audio quality? It doesn't make any sense.
 
I know people are pining for a 14" rMB, but I'm not sure they'd get a significant spec boost; it'd still be thin and fanless. Not to mention the price would be well in rMBP territory. Yea, you'd maybe get a second port, but at what cost?

What if... they bring out a 10-11" rMB at WWDC? I'm aware the 12" rMB keyboard defines the width of that machine, so they'd have to do some finagling, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. It would explain them keeping the rMB price the same this year... to squeeze out sales before they release a smaller, cheaper version. With this one, they could knock $200-$300 off of the price to fully replace the MBA.
 
It gives you the freedom to walk around the studio and work/interact in ways that you weren't able to before. Plus, dangly wires don't look good.

How do you imagine walk and work particularly in the studio? You either seat or stand there.
I think we have to see a bold solid line between entertainment and serious content production.

PS: the best headphones on a market for monitoring - Audeze (for instance LCD-3, LCD-4) are still utilize 6mm straight jack.
 
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