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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Theres a 4K and 5K iMac...the notebooks should be 3K at least.
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Yeah big design flaw on their part.
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Yeah big design flaw on their part.
I wouldn't hold my breath. If you look at https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/wwdc/ last time Apple announced hardware updates was 2013.
Yo apple I know you wanna make everything thinner but if you could make a macbook pro that didn't sound like I was trying to launch a quantum computer into the orbit of Jupiter when I'm browsing youtube that would be awesome.
I agree with those who says that a potentiale butterfly keyboard in the next MBP should be more like the Magic Keyboard. The main difference is the travel of the keys.
Just imagining what this thread will look like if no MBPs are announced at WWDC 
lucky for you sound doesn't propagate in space, not sure about jupiter's atmosphere though..
i remember the old days with the white macbook and gma950 graphics.. my god that thing sucked. youtube and everything flash were making my ears bleed. it got somehow better with html5 though.
what's your current model btw?
It can't be more stupid than that time a user propose to get rid of all the ports in the Mac, and use only the USB-C.
Oh wait...
Just imagining what this thread will look like if no MBPs are announced at WWDC
So umm... I'm assuming most of you saw this, but I figured I'd just drop this here..
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...ther-apple-watch-bands-coming-as-soon-as-june
Yet another strappy event..
[doublepost=1462098721][/doublepost]And for those who were considering Win 10 as an alternative in case Apple doesn't deliver (like my self) consider below...
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ch-experiences-in-windows-10-through-cortana/
I dunno about the rest of you, but I personally prefer Google over Bing, and Chrome over Edge (preferably Safari overall though).. But the fact that MS is starting to take the end-to-end control approach is a bit worrisome...
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...ther-apple-watch-bands-coming-as-soon-as-june
Yet another strappy event..
[doublepost=1462098721][/doublepost]And for those who were considering Win 10 as an alternative in case Apple doesn't deliver (like my self) consider below...
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ch-experiences-in-windows-10-through-cortana/
I dunno about the rest of you, but I personally prefer Google over Bing, and Chrome over Edge (preferably Safari overall though).. But the fact that MS is starting to take the end-to-end control approach is a bit worrisome...
Apple's been doing this since forever, why should you be worried by microsoft now?
having full control pays off, consumers like things to work cohesively out of the box, rather than having (freedom) to fine-tune every small detail on their own.
maybe i missed your point..
True, but Apple did this from the beginning, a lot of people are using Chrome and Google and they won't be able to anymore (with cortana).
My backup plan: to put in my mid-2009 13'' mbpro:
- a SSD
- more RAM (I'm on 2 Gb right now)
- a new battery
I wonder how much would that cost....pretty sure it could get me through the next 2-3 years.
I'm not optimistic right now, I feel we will get these new beasts no earlier than september-october, and that they'll put very very few ports on them....
Too pessimistic?
- a SSD
- more RAM (I'm on 2 Gb right now)
- a new battery
I wonder how much would that cost....pretty sure it could get me through the next 2-3 years.
I'm not optimistic right now, I feel we will get these new beasts no earlier than september-october, and that they'll put very very few ports on them....
Too pessimistic?
What's stupid about it? You haven't done anything other than state it to be so. I've given my rationale to the usual chorus of angry folks (the type who is also considering the MS Surface and Dell XPS - i.e. not Mac users. Probably not creators, but consumers) whining and moaning about their really important 64gb USB sticks (that they got for free) and use for "backup" and/or their really important external USB2 4TB cheap Chinese hard disks.
All USB-c, no other ports (including 3.5mm), invisible mouse, vanishing screen bezel, amazing power consumption and keyboard options (tactile touch and travel distance options) is the future. How can you even think about tacking on a legacy USB port? Why not a parallel port while they're at it for fear some Windows user might feel left out?
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I think the 2009 is no longer officially supported. I think the 2010 13" still is. So, at any point, your updates may stop working. Depends on what you're doing and the risk you're comfortable with.
I have a 2010 13". A classic machine. I think it's the best laptop ever made. Yes, really! I put an SSD and 16gb RAM in it and El Cap. It's a wonderful machine. I don't use it very much, but it's a joy to open her up.
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I've already answered many times to you, almost 100 pages ago, and I've already stated too many times that your problem is how you explain your ideas.
I won't do it one more time, because either you aren't unable to read, or you just don't want to understand.
Those are the ports Apple "needs" to eliminate.
Fine, let's assume Apple will do it.
What are their substitutions?
How is Apple going to replace them?
An adaptor maybe?
Yeah, saving space for carrying around more things.
Really, I don't see any proper solution.
And this should be the design task: find solution to a problem.
MacBook Air? Problem: heavy laptop for light use -> Solution: eliminate heavy parts, like HDD and DVD reader, and thick ports; and flash-based architecture.
MacBook? Problem: as old MacBook Air, heavy laptop for light use -> Solution: eliminate heavy parts, this time the fans, and shrink the logic board.
MacBook Pro? Almost the same problem as Air, almost the same solution, but maintaining useful ports.
Redesigned MacBook Pro. Problem? Its design is old. And let's assume it's heavy.
What is the solution? We get rid of ports which are maybe the 2% of the total weight?
Ok, let's do it. And now how we solve the problem of not having ports?
TL : DR - refer to Dutchdude99
Dutchdude99 pretty much answers it but the position that Apple and MS are in are quite different. MS was a software company and for them the key was in software cohesion and adaptability, making sure people can use which ever software solution they want. Neither Bing nor Edge are complete enough to fully replace other solutions that are deeply integrated with most peoples' workflows. They are certainly getting better, but not quite there yet. I know Edge can support firefox and chrome plugins but for them to be optimized and bugs to be worked out, it will take a while. Bing... Although I find it very interesting, it feels a lot more clunky and messy compared to Google, and given that Google is deeply integrated with many peoples' lives, I find it a difficult miss. (I mean how many here use gmail?)
Apple on the other hand, was, is, and hopefully will continue to be a hardware company. They do put a lot of effort in software but it's more of a symbiosis rather than two separate developments. Their end-to-end solution is meant to cover every aspect of the digital experience and for them it is integral as they want the user to have a consistent experience across devices.
MS is technically abandoning its uniqueness and is going in a jack of all trades approach through its universal app platform and support for Android and iOS development and apps. Surely it would be in their best interest (for hardware sales) to leave it a open ended experience as it would mean more people would be likely to try their hardware offerings. From a service / software perspective, it would be detrimental as you're essentially offering your best service for free (I find Cortana really good and it has a lot of potential, the moment MS lets Google use it natively, is the same moment MS shoots bing on the foot while slapping edge with a giant wet fish).
Whoops I meant one to replace the Cinema Display for a retina second monitor. ☺️
Microsoft's version of Siri is using Microsoft's search engine and browser - that's not a surprise at all.
It's not like it had been different in the past, Microsoft always used their own products for system funcionality. Do you know the reason why that pile of garbage Internet Explorer is still integrated in Windows 10, although they are advertising their Edge browser which is preinstalled, too, and can't be uninstalled? Because IE is connected to the whole file system and they can't remove it without rewriting lots of code in that critical field.
It's not like it had been different in the past, Microsoft always used their own products for system funcionality. Do you know the reason why that pile of garbage Internet Explorer is still integrated in Windows 10, although they are advertising their Edge browser which is preinstalled, too, and can't be uninstalled? Because IE is connected to the whole file system and they can't remove it without rewriting lots of code in that critical field.
WWDC is about developers, and the MBP is an important developer tool, and the last time it had a redesign it was announced at WWDC in 2012, so I don't see why it can't/wouldn't be at this WWDC if it's a redesign.
All those ports are easily replaceable by USB-C. When it's done that will be the end of the story.
Why are you afraid of the future?
Yes, if you want to keep your legacy peripherals, you'll have to buy an adapter. They're not that bad. They really aren't. I have a USB-C to USB3 dongle myself.
I bring it around in case I need to charge my Android development device (Nexus 5X) when I'm out and about.I know people right now who carry around DP-VGA, DP-HDMI, USB-Ethernet adapaters (I don't have a HDMI adapter, but I have the others). If you "need" a USB-C to 3.5mm/6mm jack and a USB-C to USB3 adapter too, isn't someone trying to tell you something? Do you see what the way forward might be...???
The future is all-USBC, Bluetooth LE audio and USB-C to high res displays/projectors. The future is higher quality and requires a new standard. The higher quality future is not compatible with the VGA/USB2 past. Why are you so reluctant to embrace this?
Agreed completely. Was pretty disappointed how even on a flat surface, my MBP could get temperatures up to almost 200 degrees just from browsing YouTube or StreetView. Yeah, yeah...thinness, thinness, thinness...but that's what my iPad is for. Power over thinness. That's what I want, but I know Apple doesn't.
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323All those ports are easily replaceable by USB-C. When it's done that will be the end of the story.
Why are you afraid of the future?
Yes, if you want to keep your legacy peripherals, you'll have to buy an adapter. They're not that bad. They really aren't. I have a USB-C to USB3 dongle myself.
I know people right now who carry around DP-VGA, DP-HDMI, USB-Ethernet adapaters (I don't have a HDMI adapter, but I have the others). If you "need" a USB-C to 3.5mm/6mm jack and a USB-C to USB3 adapter too, isn't someone trying to tell you something? Do you see what the way forward might be...???
The future is all-USBC, Bluetooth LE audio and USB-C to high res displays/projectors. The future is higher quality and requires a new standard. The higher quality future is not compatible with the VGA/USB2 past. Why are you so reluctant to embrace this?
Article from 2014...
Are you familiar with the latest versions of the Bluetooth protocol?
Do you think Apple engineers operate at the level of cheap, low-cost Chinese engineers building Bluetooth products for quick sale on dx.com?
You know Apple are into a bit of unified hardware/software design, yeah?
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