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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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have you ever considered that the glowing apple logo might have been dropped because of new display assembly that doesn't let light leak through the back? or also not uniformly/not brightly enough? or maybe, the leaking light could affect the front brightness of the display in that region?
edit: i assume you do know that the apple logo on the back isn't powered by its own light, right?
I would say so too, but it had all sorts of teething problems at launch, with the interface and user experience (not to mention that horrible launch segment by Cue whenever it was). And even today, lots of users are complaining about conflicts between their local libraries and their Music libraries (have you had any of those?)
The watch is compromised, and it had to be. The way they presented the compromise, and the actual choice of allowing 3rd party apps on such a performance compromised watch, is one of those head-scratch-inducing decisions i mentioned. I'm sure you enjoy yours, and I don't doubt I'd enjoy it if I had one too.
I'm not sure about that - the iPhone SE and 10" iPad Pro were well received, but I felt like the event lacked polish, and it lacked content. (maybe this is my rMBP-depraved bias showing though, I can't tell).
All macs need an update, but still. Choices. They could have chosen to update the 15" to Broadwell (at the cost of a 3 month wait), the whole philosophy of the rMB is questionable at times to me, some of the hardware choices on the rMB are also debateable (don't want to beat a dead horse, but the camera and no TB3 just to name a couple).
The lack of confidence is probably a coalescence of all of these things. Less assuredness, wonky hardware/design choices, slight misrepresentations in earnings calls... it all adds up I guess. :/
While I agree with that, i wouldn't call the rMBP refreshes "new products" either - I would argue the same for S generation iPhones.
While this may be accurate, keep in mind Al Gore had already created and put the world wide web into play earlier than these dates. It just had a slow adoption.
I'll get you my friend, no matter what.
I can't believe you guys are still doubting Serban. Just look at some of his previous comments here on MR. He has an amazing track record.
I'm not telling you to blindly believe in him but at least don't tell others that he is not credible.
List of games that have been tested with the Intel 6770. Pretty pumped if the MBP gets this CPU.
https://gameplay.intel.com/Hardware...i7-6770HQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz
https://gameplay.intel.com/Hardware...i7-6770HQ Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz
Revolutionary new MBP brings performance that is "pretty solid for an integrated GPU". 1.5x faster than 2011 MBP. $2499. Glowing logo included. Rose gold.
Admittedly soeven that 5-year view isn't that fantastic though.
~100% gain over 5 years not fantastic? That's absurd.
...Data to prove your statement?
Also, I don't know what were you expecting, but it's almost public knowledge that biggest improvement in Skylake are more GPU power and better power consumption. And maybe they'll have also Polaris dGPU.
Still, I get the problem with the price, but it was always like this.
Maybe Apple will make them a little bit cheaper.
Sarcasm friend. If all they offer is a 6770 for $2000 and no other major improvement, that's going to be a bit of a letdown. I'd much rather see a 6700hq + whatever dGPU (firepro mobile maybe), and that could have been out months ago.
I get the sarcasm, but still I don't get you.
The only thing we know so far, and yet the only thing we know for sure is the name and the type of CPU the new MBP will have.
Which, compared to current generation, is an improvement.
Also, considering how Apple didn't silent-upgraded MBPs with rMB, it's almost for sure the redesign.
All together means new design of the computer, better CPU & GPU performances, more battery life, and who knows what else.
I really don't see the letdown you're talking about...
Any and all consumer products go through revisions, which is all yearly updates are.
The letdown is in the sense that the Macbook Pro 15" is a $2000 starting Pro machine, and the GPU is a sidegrade - at best - to the current model. Which means you are paying a whole lot for that redesign.
Time for Serban to come clean, a little bit.
First of all, is he from Serbia ? Or what ?
Working for Apple, or wot ?
In any case, really tired of waiting !
First of all, is he from Serbia ? Or what ?
Working for Apple, or wot ?
In any case, really tired of waiting !
Sorry, but we don't KNOW anything at this point.
I will grant you that a Skylake CPU has a high probability of showing up in any new MBP at this point. As for a redesign, I think that is really reaching. I would think a redesign would garner some leaks from the various sources akin to what we see with the iPhone leaks.
However, if you have some proof to put forward I think many here would be glad to review it.
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Honesty, I still don't understand the letdown, at all...
Apple products always were and always will be expensive.
And a more powerful CPU, and an integrated GPU almost powerful as a discrete is an huge leap forward.
But those are not recent news, guys. MBP always were like this.
Where is the surprise?
@Pentad: it's true, we know nothing for sure, but at this point there are some of speculation about the MBP we can make, that are quite verifiable.
It is going to use Skylake.
It is going to use the newest CPU, which are released just know.
It is probably going to have a redesign, due to the "no silent-upgrade" fact.
Why should all this not happen?
And no, I have no proofs, just logic and the thousands of suppositions already made in this thread.
Apple products always were and always will be expensive.
And a more powerful CPU, and an integrated GPU almost powerful as a discrete is an huge leap forward.
But those are not recent news, guys. MBP always were like this.
Where is the surprise?
@Pentad: it's true, we know nothing for sure, but at this point there are some of speculation about the MBP we can make, that are quite verifiable.
It is going to use Skylake.
It is going to use the newest CPU, which are released just know.
It is probably going to have a redesign, due to the "no silent-upgrade" fact.
Why should all this not happen?
And no, I have no proofs, just logic and the thousands of suppositions already made in this thread.
I'm perfectly content with a skylake version of the existing machines.
My wishes/wants would be (on top of the existing stuff, incl. USB-A/C, 3.5mm headphone jack, etc..):
- 2TB PCIe NVMe options (double current, 1TB still acceptable)
- 32GB RAM option, preferably the machines are based on DDR4 (and not DDR3 like many competitors)
- Polaris dGPU w/ GDDR5 (2GB probably possible here)
- Additional TB3 port(s) (still need to hook up ext monitor/LAN/etc..)
- HDMI 2.0 w/ 4k/60hz@4:4:4 output (the HD550/HD580 *can* do this, so the dGPU *should* match)
- Intel Xeon E3-1200M V5 CPU's instead of the 'generic' i5/i7 lines (pipe dream)
- Force Touch/3D Touch trackpad (continuation but with additional features like iPhone)
- Butterfly keyboard (very likely I would think)
- Keeps glowing logo
- Some kind of biometric login (I do *not* want a home button w/ TouchID..)
I will buy a Lenovo T460p instead if:
- removed all useful ports.
- basically anything Oppenheim said.
If Oppenheim's dreams come true, I would still buy Apple if:
- Some amazing external TB3 dock became available that would pass-through power, output of 4k/60hz@4:4:4, ethernet, and some USB-A ports.
I believe most of my primary list is what people want/expect anyway.
I'm totally in love with the versatility and utility of my Mid-2012 non-Retina MBP, I acquired this for $100 and just upgraded the RAM and put in an SSD (removed the DVD burner in favor of the original HDD in that tray instead). It has been my primary computing access point (paired with an ESXi 6.0u1 Lenovo TS440 server with 32GB RAM, Xeon Quad and about 16TB overall storage).
Yada yada, I'm an InfoSec person, so CPU power reigns supreme for me, the dGPU is nice for certain workflows I encounter, but isn't required, I could live without one pretty easily. In fact, I'm parting out my desktop PC because this laptop/server model has been so much better for my workflow and saves tons of time transferring items around and wasting time waiting.
My wishes/wants would be (on top of the existing stuff, incl. USB-A/C, 3.5mm headphone jack, etc..):
- 2TB PCIe NVMe options (double current, 1TB still acceptable)
- 32GB RAM option, preferably the machines are based on DDR4 (and not DDR3 like many competitors)
- Polaris dGPU w/ GDDR5 (2GB probably possible here)
- Additional TB3 port(s) (still need to hook up ext monitor/LAN/etc..)
- HDMI 2.0 w/ 4k/60hz@4:4:4 output (the HD550/HD580 *can* do this, so the dGPU *should* match)
- Intel Xeon E3-1200M V5 CPU's instead of the 'generic' i5/i7 lines (pipe dream)
- Force Touch/3D Touch trackpad (continuation but with additional features like iPhone)
- Butterfly keyboard (very likely I would think)
- Keeps glowing logo
- Some kind of biometric login (I do *not* want a home button w/ TouchID..)
I will buy a Lenovo T460p instead if:
- removed all useful ports.
- basically anything Oppenheim said.
If Oppenheim's dreams come true, I would still buy Apple if:
- Some amazing external TB3 dock became available that would pass-through power, output of 4k/60hz@4:4:4, ethernet, and some USB-A ports.
I believe most of my primary list is what people want/expect anyway.
I'm totally in love with the versatility and utility of my Mid-2012 non-Retina MBP, I acquired this for $100 and just upgraded the RAM and put in an SSD (removed the DVD burner in favor of the original HDD in that tray instead). It has been my primary computing access point (paired with an ESXi 6.0u1 Lenovo TS440 server with 32GB RAM, Xeon Quad and about 16TB overall storage).
Yada yada, I'm an InfoSec person, so CPU power reigns supreme for me, the dGPU is nice for certain workflows I encounter, but isn't required, I could live without one pretty easily. In fact, I'm parting out my desktop PC because this laptop/server model has been so much better for my workflow and saves tons of time transferring items around and wasting time waiting.
I'm not an investor, financial consultant or otherwise interested party in Apple's business.
I care about the product, which i have concerns about.
Other people have similar concerns, which is probably also a part of the reason why their numbers have taken a dip.
Their rise in recent years has been nothing short of meteoric, I'm not at all belittling or taking that away from them :/
My wishlist for the new MBP:
It lasts as long as my 2008 MBP has.
It lasts as long as my 2008 MBP has.
I want something that I can edit video on with reasonable performance...as a stretch, maybe even 4k or 1080p raw without being agonizingly slow. I want a little more PRO in my MBP than the current gen offers. I would like something powerful enough to compete with a PC mobile workstation such as from Lenovo or Dell but with Apple build quality and design.
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