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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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But the current MacMini can't drive a 4K display at 60 Hz.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mac...ndroid-om-lge&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
@Serban I'd like asking you two different questions:
1) when do you think apple is going to release a new thuderbolt retina display (maybe 5k) to be a worthy companion to the Mac Pro? (Actual model I think is the most out of phase product that you can find at Apple Stores).
2) I'm really interested in buying an airport extreme to accompany my new laptop. Do you think they're working in a new version for this year, or they will wait until new version of Wi-Fi protocol (so the actual model would be the choice)?
Thanks a lot!
1) when do you think apple is going to release a new thuderbolt retina display (maybe 5k) to be a worthy companion to the Mac Pro? (Actual model I think is the most out of phase product that you can find at Apple Stores).
2) I'm really interested in buying an airport extreme to accompany my new laptop. Do you think they're working in a new version for this year, or they will wait until new version of Wi-Fi protocol (so the actual model would be the choice)?
Thanks a lot!
That's exactly the link that appears on the Google search I just posted. Read under "Mac Mini" and see what it says.
More than a 12 inch MacBook but less than a current MacBook Pro 15 inch with dGPU maxed out.
Honestly, no idea. Most likely around the same price range. +/- $200 I would imagine, if Apple doesn't get too greedy.
Usually Apple's product offerings are pretty comparable performance/build quality wise for the price. However, with what the competition is offering, I wouldn't pay more than $1799 for a skylake iGPU version of the 15" rMBP, plain and simple. The rMBP needs a price drop, even WITH a skylake update.
Which is odd, since they've been making retina display MacBooks for 4 years now. On the previous gen MacBook Pros, Apple was already offering $1799 15" by 2010 at least. Apple was already able to get the price of the 5K iMac down to pre-5K levels in a year.
We should've seen the base model drop to $1799 last year, at least.
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It's not a dumb move. They simply can't fit a quad core and a dGPU into the 13" chassis due to thermal envelope constraints. Hell, they an barely fit all of that power into the 15" MBP. (I have a 15" with quad i7 and AMD dGPU, and when it gets hot, it gets HOT!) Someone on this forum did research on this issue because there was a very long topic dedicated to this topic. They found that none of Apple's competitors make a 13" notebook with a quad core processor...let alone one with quad cores and a dGPU! Perhaps I missed something, but I just looked myself and I couldn't find a machine that meets your specifications either. All 13" laptops have a dual core processor, even if they have a dGPU. The closest notebook I could find was an MSI gaming laptop that had a Skylake quad core i7 and a 670M dGPU, but it had a 14" screen and it was substantially thicker. It had required 150W power brick, so it presumably has worse battery life too.
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Really? I bought an early 2011 base model cMBP when it new and it cost $1999. If they had been offering a $1799 model I might have gotten that.
Yes, IIRC, the Early 2011 model with a 6490M was $1799. Every Article from that time supports this as well. Here's just one example:
http://osxdaily.com/2011/02/24/macbook-pro-early-2011-specs-prices/
Here's a press release directly from Apple about the 2010 MacBook Pros:
https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/13Apple-Updates-MacBook-Pro-Line.html
EDIT: Found the Early 2011 press release as well:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/201...sors-Graphics-Thunderbolt-I-O-Technology.html
The model I purchased had the 6490M. Perhaps I am thinking of the price after AppleCare, which would have pushed it above $2000.
That would be my guess. Add Applecare and Tax and it would be easy to rack up another $300-$400 before getting out the door.
Either way, it's time for price drop for the rMBP, especially since we all know that buying 1 Iris Pro CPU (6770HQ) is cheaper than buying a 6700HQ + 970M from nvidia. There's simply no way with all the competition's offerings that a 256GB/16GB/Iris Pro-only machine should cost $1999.
For the past couple of years I've been thinking that I paid $1999 for my cMBP, so the prices for the rMBP's were in line with that and made sense to me. But, they definitely don't anymore. They should be dropped down to that $1799 price again, because there is nothing that justifies that $200 premium these days. What you get for it doesn't really justify it, especially since every component besides the PCIe SSD is out of date and has been eclipsed by more advanced components.
[doublepost=1463280455][/doublepost]Perhaps we will see a price drop with the next-gen MacBook Pro, but I highly doubt it, unfortunately.
What's with all the dGPU complaints? What are people using their MBP's for?
I will be using it for audio (studio one and maybe Pro Tools) and only care about CPU, SSD and RAM. But I'm curious about the dGPU discussions.
Also, thanks @Serban for all the insights. You either are a wonderful leaking bastard, or just a guy who makes the wait more fun. I think it's the first.
I will be using it for audio (studio one and maybe Pro Tools) and only care about CPU, SSD and RAM. But I'm curious about the dGPU discussions.
Also, thanks @Serban for all the insights. You either are a wonderful leaking bastard, or just a guy who makes the wait more fun. I think it's the first.
For all the people that want a beefy dGPU:
are there any reviews/examples of the IP 5200 editing 4K? not doubting per se, all the reviewers seem to have gotten dGPU models.
I don't really understand the dGPU complaints either. I personally actually try to avoid laptops with a dGPU. I've never seen a laptop with a dGPU that didn't have issues with heat, battery life and Linux. dGPU's tend to do more harm than good. Let's just hope for Thunderbolt 3 and a decent external GPU available somewhere this year.
I am also on the same boat as you guys.
To me, including a dGPU is a big risk of damaging your system, for a slight better graphical performance than Iris Pro 580. There are just sooo many dGPU failures and heat problems in the current and past MacBooks.
If Polaris dGPU's perform as great as expected, at the promised lower power consumption it might be wise to include it. Hopefully it won't cause any problems.
High mobile performance is very important and necessary for alot of people, but unfortunately Apple wants to make everything thinner, limiting power & performance. So for those power hungry users, it'll be interesting what Apple decides to do.
eGPu, dGPU or only iGPU?
Anyone know how TB3 works with USB2.0 based audio interfaces? My Duet is my go-to interface. Will it work with an adapter on a MBP sans USB-A ports?
Yes, you just need a USB-C to USB-A adapter like the one in the Apple Store online or retail store and you will be golden.
Can I connect USB devices to a Thunderbolt 3 port?
Yes, Thunderbolt 3 ports are fully compatible with USB devices and cables.
- See more at: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/tech/faq#sthash.YTuQag5U.dpuf
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