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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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So it doesn't make sense to remove USB A if they still include it with their products. If the MacBook Air has it, why can't the Pro?
What DAW are you using?
I'm getting great results with an MBA and Studio One. It ran PT 11 pretty Good too.
Just curious if ITS your DAW or the size of your sessions.
You got a point there, but they could at least have keept it the same thicknes as the 2010 MacBook Pro :3
It does make sense. It's a very easy problem to solve with an adapter, and the MacBook Air is dead. It's not just a matter of thinness, but moving technology forward. It's difficult to do that if you're afraid to remove aging ports.
Thanks! I think I'll just slap a few stickers on it and get a sleeve for it so it looks used. I'll keep the receipt and papers in a book or something
Or just scan them and keep them on iCloud.
Customs have never questioned my hardware...
If it were me, OS aside, and I only needed a MB I would look really hard at something like a Surface pro.495 pages, 21 days left to the WWDC...and still no leaks but a bunch of speculations
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That's my point. They can keep saying the iPad is the device of the future and that in a few years nobody will be looking for a laptop anymore (I seriously doubt it) but today some people still need the power of a machine such as the Pro.
Apple knows that, so I don't think they are going to abandon Pro line anytime soon.
More realistic, they're trying to switch back to the good old customers division between pros and regular, with the rMBP and rMB respectively.
What really bothers me is the price tag of the latter. The only chance we (regular customer) have to stay in the market with a brand new Apple device is a price cut for the rMB after the rMBP announcement/release.
Otherwise, the rMB would way overpriced for an "entry level" machine
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Customs have never questioned my hardware either or photographic gear etc.
The OS is the central point. If is wasn't for that, I would have already picked a Dell or HP
I'm done with Windows
Now, the problem is rMB or rMBP. The problem is: will the rMB last as much as a Pro?
I don't want to buy an Apple laptop and have to regret after a year or two 'cause it starts working as the most advanced Windows machine.
Like doitdada said I've never had problems with customs. But you may want to buy the euro adapter in the US. If you come back with only an US adapter on it you "might" get questioned although it's highly unlikely. Apple used to include an adapter kit with all new MBPs but now they want $40-$50 for it and you can't just by the one you need you get the whole world kit.
I'd say that ANYONE who doesn't care about whether they use Mac or Windows should choose Windows because it's cheaper. There are lots of ok Windows machines to fill the needs of non-power users, including the Surface Pro but not exclusively.
But more importantly, there will be great machines which use the high end Skylake chips coming in the next few months. I hope those include a MacBook Pro, because I don't want to use Windows anymore. I have my reasons, as does everyone else who is waiting here.
If you're OS-agnostic, I'd say you're in the wrong forum. Apple has nicely-built machines, but they are NOT and in my opinion have never been on the bleeding edge of design or power, and they certainly cost more per unit performance than a Windows machine. You can complain about MacOS, but at the end of the day you need to decide if it's worth the cost of sticking with (or in my case, switching to) MacOS. If you've already decided you don't care, there's no reason to stick around.
What would constitute an iPhone Pro would it be for someone who can never shut up or quit texting, I see a lot of those pros driving everyday.
I think that an iPhone pro would probably be something with greater focus on multimedia. Whether it be audio or video something that has greater compatibility with other peripherals and a few dedicated peripherals of its own. The rumoured dual camera and smart connector would be a start. And probably a 256 storage option as wellWhat would constitute an iPhone Pro would it be for someone who can never shut up or quit texting, I see a lot of those pros driving everyday.
I've been waiting since October for Apple to update their MacBook Pro but if it doesn't come soon after WWDC, I'm going to have to get the current 15" as my first Mac. My only concern is that on iPhones, a couple of iOS updates can make the phone feel buggy and slower especially when there's design updates. Since the current 15" comes in Yosemite, will I notice slower/glitchy performance especially when they release the next macOS? For those of you that have had older machines, about how many years of new OS X updates did it take for you to notice a difference in performance, if any? I assume it's different with laptops because they have more power than an iPhone, right?
I would think about that for a while ... considering the price and the hardware I would rather go for a "low-end" 13" until something happens.
I guess I see why removing USB A makes sense to move technology forward, but they should at least include the adapters if the are going to do so.
The thing about USB A is that it is used for tons of diffrent equippment and buying one adapter for each device you want to use at the same time sounds exspensive.
But I do agree with you that we have to move forward some day though :3 Maybe add both ports in the start
You have to keep in mind that the Mac is a mature platform and has been for a really long time. We aren't seeing dramatic performance increases these days and haven't for years. I am typing this on an early 2011 15" MBP with a Sandy Bridge Quad Core i7 and even after five years it is still plenty fast for my needs. The major bottleneck is the 5400rpm HDD that I never upgraded to a SSD. This is important because Mac OS seems to be optimized for flash storage today. However, the 2015 MBP has super fast PCIe based flash storage, so this wouldn't be a problem. Every Mac I've ever had has aged incredibly well in my opinion, and there is a reason that even nine year old Macs are still eligible for new Mac OS X upgrades these days. (Apple hasn't cut a machine off for OS updates since 2012 with Mountain Lion.)
With respect to Mac OS upgrades, any problems with you might notice with performance degradation and glitches after updating won't be the fault of the hardware. It will be due to software bugs and lack of optimization that would even affect the future 2016 MBP. With this 2011 MBP things haven't actually gotten slower with time. For instance, the machine came with Lion which had tons of issues, and when I updated it to Mountain Lion things became much better and faster. Things slowed down with the update to Yosemite and then became much faster with the upgrade to El Capitan. In fact, when compared to how my MBP was in 2011, I'd say that it is just as fast as it was when I first bought it, but slightly buggier perhaps. However, again all of this is down to Apple on the software end and it's not the fault of the hardware (unless you are talking about the hard drive).
Contrast this to iOS devices which are not particularly mature yet. We are still seeing impressive increases in processor power with each successive A-series generation. So, with iOS updates which have new features and bring about more advanced technologies, the old hardware often times is the bottleneck and performance slows to a crawl. The iPhone and iPad are just not at the point where a five year old device ages well. This is why my 2011 MBP is still as usable as it ever was, while an iPhone 4s from the same time frame is certainly not.
TL;DR - Don't worry about it. The 2015 MBP is not like an iPhone. It will still perform well for years and years to come, despite OS upgrades.
If you have multiple USB-A devices, you could use a hub or just a couple adapters. There are only 2 usb ports on a MBP so I can't really see people suddenly needing several adapters simultaneously.
Why include it if you can buy the adapter from them?
In all seriousness, they don't include adapters with new ports because they want people to forget about the old standard no matter how popular it is. Not including it will be (in some way) beneficial since it will get more companies to deprecate USB A and move over to USB-C faster. There's always a cumbersome "getting used to" period with every major change, the faster that period ends the better, and not including an adapter will only shorten it (and provide a temporal revenue stream for them Xp).
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is not that you can force your arguments into the new product with either logic or arrogance.
eventually a new laptop will come and all argumentations pro/cons any of the feature (usbA, dgpu, etc) won't make sense anymore.
then you'll either embrace the new mbp or buy the xps or razer, lol.
eventually a new laptop will come and all argumentations pro/cons any of the feature (usbA, dgpu, etc) won't make sense anymore.
then you'll either embrace the new mbp or buy the xps or razer, lol.
You have a point, I can always buy the adapter. But the other problem is moving to less powerful 15W CPUs in the 13". I'm pretty sure this would make it less powerful than the previous gen MBP from what I know.Why include it if you can buy the adapter from them?
In all seriousness, they don't include adapters with new ports because they want people to forget about the old standard no matter how popular it is. Not including it will be (in some way) beneficial since it will get more companies to deprecate USB A and move over to USB-C faster. There's always a cumbersome "getting used to" period with every major change, the faster that period ends the better, and not including an adapter will only shorten it (and provide an temporal revenue stream for them Xp).
Except literally everyone still uses the type A connector. Removing it completely on a pro machine doesn't sound like a good idea. Giving it one during the next 2 years or so would be the smart idea that way while everything moves to type c you can still use your current stuff. Then when everything currently being sold is type c they can remove it.
Are you sure?
The m7-6y75 MacBook scores about 6800 multicore in geekbench, which is equivalent to a maxed out MBA and a mid-high MBP 13 from last year.
Now think about i7-6560U and iris 540...
The 28W U series processer is only used by few OEMs and Apple now.
Look into the history, the 13" MacBook (pro) had been using 35w C2D T-series chips untill 2008, when the 25W P-series came out. That was the time when 15W ULT SL-Series C2D was just born and very weak, stays on the MBA until Sandybridge 15W ULT came in 2011, which gives MBA a huge boost in performance.
For now the preformance gain form 28W U does not pay off the extra power consumption form extra wattage. Untill 28W QC come out, the 15W U is the way to go.
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Guys, you can't give a pro just USB-C option!
Come on, seriously? Just think about all the peripherals available as of today on the market and imagine yourself having to connect each one to a hub or an adpater!
This is not an option, not even Ballmer's Microsoft would have made such an idiot choice!
Come on, seriously? Just think about all the peripherals available as of today on the market and imagine yourself having to connect each one to a hub or an adpater!
This is not an option, not even Ballmer's Microsoft would have made such an idiot choice!
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