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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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goobot said:
If it has why didn't my brand new iPad Pro come with an option to get a Usb c cable?
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To charge it via the AC adapter? Everyone (almost) syncs wirelessly, or don't even sync, the iPad has gotten more and more independent as the years have gone by. Im sure you know that they released a lightning to USB-C cable. Look, I know that you believe Apple will keep USB-A ports and that anything we say wouldn't convince you of them getting rid of them. We'll just wait till WWDC to see who's right, yet I got the feeling that you are in for disappointment.
 
justywusty said:
The only computer you'd need it with is the rMB so there's no real demand. But if the MBP is usb-c only as well, the need is greater especially with so many devs using them.
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Apple: The new MacBook Pro, the pro machine the we sell that you can't use with our current line up of iOS devices without an adapter. Because we love it when things just work and all our devices seemlessly integrate.

Including type a doesn't suddenly make it so you can't also include type c.
 
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goobot said:
Apple: The new MacBook Pro, the pro machine the we sell that you can't use with our current line up of iOS devices without an adapter. Because we love it when things just work and all our devices seemlessly integrate.

Including type a doesn't suddenly make it so you can't also include type c.
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Yet they released the one port USB-C macbook, which doesn't work with current iOS devices as you said...Now you know where I'm getting at?
 
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OSX7 said:
To charge it via the AC adapter? Everyone (almost) syncs wirelessly, or don't even sync, the iPad has gotten more and more independent as the years have gone by. Im sure you know that they released a lightning to USB-C cable. Look, I know that you believe Apple will keep USB-A ports and that anything we say wouldn't convince you of them getting rid of them. We'll just wait till WWDC to see who's right, yet I got the feeling that you are in for disappointment.
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I never said I didn't believe they wouldn't remove it, I'm just saying doing it this early on is dumb.
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OSX7 said:
Yet they released the one port USB-C macbook, which doesn't work with current iOS devices as you said...Now you know where I'm getting at?
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Which I acknowledged in my last post to mirror the MacBook Air not having a disk drive. It's a compromised device for those who don't care.
 
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goobot said:
I never said I didn't believe they wouldn't remove it, I'm just saying doing it this early on is dumb.
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Which I acknowledged in my last post to mirror the MacBook Air not having a disk drive. It's a compromised device for those who don't care.
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Right, so in this case, the rMB is the compromise device for those who don't care. And the pro will retain 1 usbA port for 1 more design. Then usbA will be dropped from all devices a little farther down the road
 
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ssong said:
From what I understand the rMB benchmark scores are to be taken with a pinch of salt as they only provide a point of reference for comparison. Upon continuous usage the benchmark scores were seen diving by more than 50% due to thermal throttling.
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Think about it in this way:
The cup is always in turbo boost once the system is putting pressure on it. For comparison, a top of line 5557U clocks at 3.4GHz when it is in extreme turbo. So does the 6660U.
As IPC gap between Broadwell and Skylake is not that drastic, a 15w chip performs as same as a 28w chip at the same frequency unless the thermal envelope does not suffice the heat output (in this point of view the 15w chip is even better). Plus its base clock is at 2.4 GHz so so that the system is even cooler and quieter when it is not stressed (therefore longer battery life as well). The base clock of a 5557U is 3.1 GHz, which produces more heat and spin the fan up even more than a 2.7 GHz 5257U.
Considering iris 550 and 540 only differ by clock speed, it is no brainer for a OEMS to choose a 15W over a 28W chip before a 28W GT3e Package can house quad cores.
Just personal opinion :)
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Mattsasa said:
I am not sure what you are saying here, the 13" mbp have been using 28w for the last 3 generations. And will again this time.very few oems use them, Apple used them because they are more powerful and have faster graphics.

If apple was to switch to 15W cpu this generation it would be weaker in cpu power than the 28w ones, and much weaker in graphics power than the 28w ones.
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Not a huge difference this time :)
Look up 6660U and 6567U at Intel website.
As I have said, as far as Intel only provide dual c in 28W package it is no need to still use a 28W chip.
Besides, since the MBA is going to fade away, the new 13/14 inch should just be a MacBook (if use 6x60 series, competitive to last gen MBP CPU wise and much faster graphic wise).
I could be wrong in the end but I would like to see apple combines the screen of MBP in the form factor of MBA:)
 
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Dean Yu said:
Think about it in this way:
The cup is always in turbo boost once the system is putting pressure on it. For comparison, a top of line 5557U clocks at 3.4GHz when it is in extreme turbo. So does the 6660U.
As IPC gap between broad well and skylake is not that drastic, a 15w chip performs as same as a 28w chip at the same frequency unless the thermal envelope does not suffice the heat output (in this point of view the 15w chip is even better). Plus its base clock is at 2.4 GHz so so that the system is even cooler and quieter when it is not stressed (therefore longer battery life as well). The base clock of a 5557U is 3.1 GHz, which produces more heat and spin the fan up even more than a 2.7 GHz 5257U.
Considering iris 550 and 540 only differ by clock speed, it is no brainer for a OEMS to choose a 15W over a 28W chip before a 28W GT3e Package can house quad cores.
Just personal opinion :)
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Not a huge difference this time :)
Look up 6660U and 6567U at Intel website.
As I have said, as far as Intel only provide dual c in 28W package it is no need to still use a 28W chip.
Besides, since the MBA is going to fade away, the new 13/14 inch should just be a MacBook (if use 6x60 series, competitive to last gen MBP CPU wise and much faster graphic wise).
I could be wrong in the end but I would like to see apple combines the screen of MBP in the form factor of MBA:)
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You make a good point.
 
NJPT said:
Well, 2 Skylake 28W chips with GT3e have actually been launched already: the i5-6287U and i5-6267U.

The i7 version (i7-6567U), on the other hand, has been announced but not yet launched.

If history holds true, Apple will offer the i5-6267U in the base model, the i5-6287U in the step up model, and then offer the i7-6567U as a build to order option.

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http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88393/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i5-Processors#@Mobile
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Mobile
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no- those chips don't have iris 580.
 
This. Would be interesting to see 10 consecutive benchmarks on a rMB and rMBP and then compare the scores. This is the same with the MBA. As soon as the CPU has to throttle, the performance goes down the toilet.

ssong said:
From what I understand the rMB benchmark scores are to be taken with a pinch of salt as they only provide a point of reference for comparison. Upon continuous usage the benchmark scores were seen diving by more than 50% due to thermal throttling.
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vatter69 said:
This. Would be interesting to see 10 consecutive benchmarks on a rMB and rMBP and then compare the scores. This is the same with the MBA. As soon as the CPU has to throttle, the performance goes down the toilet.
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That's what I'm trying to figure out myself. If rMB performances for daily usage are anywhere comparable to the MBA and if it is indeed a reliable machine
[doublepost=1463987191][/doublepost]Guys, italian refurb store still empty and US one with just a couple of machines left
 
Nothing in Refurb store in Europe - checked UK/IT/ES/DE/FR and whatnot. Can't be coincidence right?

On the other hand - i hope they keep the old refurbs. That was kind of my backdoor if they indeed design the new MacBook with 15w and only 1 USB-C port at double the price.

You never know these days.
 
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gnyf said:
Those of you using a RMBP for Lightroom/Photoshop would you settle for the 580 IGPU or option for any DGPU that likely will be offered as well?
Or you might ask if the IGPU be good enough for this usage ;)
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Current iGPU can easy handle both of these programs.
 
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vatter69 said:
Nothing in Refurb store in Europe - checked UK/IT/ES/DE/FR and whatnot. Can't be coincidence right?

On the other hand - i hope they keep the old refurbs. That was kind of my backdoor if they indeed design the new MacBook with 15w and only 1 USB-C port at double the price.

You never know these days.
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Man. That sounds like a nightmare scenario.
 
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What let you think there is any correlation between the stock of the refurbished store and new announcements?
 
Interesting. Nothing in Polish refurb store. Nada. None. Null. There was plenty of iPads before O_O
 
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