Where did I say anything about disagreeing with his comments about dropping usb-a. Chill the **** out. He is one of the most opinionated on this board and will probably appreciate the callout.
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Where did I say anything about disagreeing with his comments about dropping usb-a. Chill the **** out. He is one of the most opinionated on this board and will probably appreciate the callout.
and that's why they make two models, one with dgpu (at a premium, big premium IMHO) and one with integrated GPU.
so basically, you are saying that apple should study a different design for the macbook pro without the dgpu because using the same design would be not so efficient? well i can't argue about the efficiency, but seriously? macbook pro and macbook pro plus?
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I am glad it's more than 1 USB-C port (rumored or whatever), thank God!
How many pages up until 10am PST June 13th, 2016? What do you guys say?
That is an instabuy from me. No matter what the dGPU configuration. Also, I need some usb adapters...
Do you guys think I can get a Thunderbolt 3 adapter for my FireWire 800 to Thunderbolt adapter? 
Looks pretty thin to me. Look at the amount thickness above/below the headphone port, looks far less than the current rMBP. Plus they may be able to shave more off of the 'hump' which curves below the straight edges.
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What were YOU thinking?
but given that he said 'seasonal' could it just simply mean the start of their back to school promotions and the back to school season?
maybe we can expect "the return of the free adapters" already in the box?
oh no sorry, is not that apple anymore.
yes, super radical choice, not even ad sd card slot, goodbye HDMI, but actually i'm looking at my external display, it's display port + usb for the hub, the 90$ adaptor should be fine.
4 USB-c ports is actually not a huge amount. Given the scenario where you have it on power and hooked up to an external display, that leaves you with only two ports. I suppose there is a lot more flexibility with 4 x USBc than the current 2xTB, 1 HDMI, 2 x USBa.
If those photos are real - which is a big "if" of course - I like the design. It looks professional and classic Mac and I prefer it over a tapered design.
The move to drop USB-A is a radical move and a brave one if Apple does it. I will use it for work so will simply be able to spend whatever is needed to move to USB-C and TB-3 and write it all off as a business expense. It will be a real pain in the neck for at least a couple of years for field use as something in the region of 99.999% of consumer and 99.5% of professional cables and peripherals sold in the last 5 years used USB-A. And the situation won't change much this year. Hopefully though if Apple goes all in like this it might just be the jolt needed and 2017 will see a significant uptake of USB-C in the wider market. They need to update their iMac fast since I bought the 5K one a while back and it has no USB-C or TB3 but only TB2 and USB-A.
I'll always spend the money for more speed so USB-C is good for me. I was pleased when Apple dropped DVDs too. This one is quite a brave move though, USB-A is absolutely entrenched and totally dominates the market for peripherals. Every single Apple device sold for years comes with a cable that leads to USB-A. That is true today in 2016 for devices that people will buy and expect to use for at least 3 or 4 years. Normally using adapters is done to allow a less popular type of device to be used; in this case it will mean that the normal situation, with nearly all devices, needs an adapter to be plugged in. It will annoy a lot of people and it will cause inconvenience and expense and it will mean any professional has to carry hubs or adapters at least for a couple of years but it might just work if it forces people to change. Strangely enough it might be easier for regular consumers who are using wireless connectivity more and more. It's pretty much only professionals that I see pulling out thunderbolt cables. Indeed until last year in the film industry firewire was still common but suddenly seems to be dropping away.
There was a danger if they had kept USB-A and USB-C side by side like Dell and others are doing that people would simply keep buying USB-A cables and peripherals and manufacturers would just include that as for most people most of the time it's enough. Then USB-C would never get the economies of scale on side and it would have met the same fate that befell TB1 and TB2, i.e. niche expensive connections that most people never used.
I think someone needs to start a new thread soon: "Should I wait for Kabylake MBP or buy Skylake today?"
The move to drop USB-A is a radical move and a brave one if Apple does it. I will use it for work so will simply be able to spend whatever is needed to move to USB-C and TB-3 and write it all off as a business expense. It will be a real pain in the neck for at least a couple of years for field use as something in the region of 99.999% of consumer and 99.5% of professional cables and peripherals sold in the last 5 years used USB-A. And the situation won't change much this year. Hopefully though if Apple goes all in like this it might just be the jolt needed and 2017 will see a significant uptake of USB-C in the wider market. They need to update their iMac fast since I bought the 5K one a while back and it has no USB-C or TB3 but only TB2 and USB-A.
I'll always spend the money for more speed so USB-C is good for me. I was pleased when Apple dropped DVDs too. This one is quite a brave move though, USB-A is absolutely entrenched and totally dominates the market for peripherals. Every single Apple device sold for years comes with a cable that leads to USB-A. That is true today in 2016 for devices that people will buy and expect to use for at least 3 or 4 years. Normally using adapters is done to allow a less popular type of device to be used; in this case it will mean that the normal situation, with nearly all devices, needs an adapter to be plugged in. It will annoy a lot of people and it will cause inconvenience and expense and it will mean any professional has to carry hubs or adapters at least for a couple of years but it might just work if it forces people to change. Strangely enough it might be easier for regular consumers who are using wireless connectivity more and more. It's pretty much only professionals that I see pulling out thunderbolt cables. Indeed until last year in the film industry firewire was still common but suddenly seems to be dropping away.
There was a danger if they had kept USB-A and USB-C side by side like Dell and others are doing that people would simply keep buying USB-A cables and peripherals and manufacturers would just include that as for most people most of the time it's enough. Then USB-C would never get the economies of scale on side and it would have met the same fate that befell TB1 and TB2, i.e. niche expensive connections that most people never used.
I think someone needs to start a new thread soon: "Should I wait for Kabylake MBP or buy Skylake today?"
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Yes they did.
But to clarify: I don't trust it.
WWDC seems plausible in every possible sense.
No way MBP announced in october.
You make me feel so sad.
And no, not for Kaby Lake, but for having to explain my sarcasm.
I was sarcastic.
You know that?
AT LAST A REAL, LEGIT, REASONABLE RUMOR ABOUT THE MBP!
Why isn't your post covered with likes?!
Thanks, man!
I'm looking forward to him.
But I want to see also how he's going to react to that horrible flimsy anti-design 3.5 mm Jack port.
Will you buy it anyway, Opp?
Yes they did.
Still, no one is providing a clear source as to why that's the case.
But to clarify: I don't trust it.
WWDC seems plausible in every possible sense.
No way MBP announced in october.
You make me feel so sad.
And no, not for Kaby Lake, but for having to explain my sarcasm.
I was sarcastic.
You know that?
AT LAST A REAL, LEGIT, REASONABLE RUMOR ABOUT THE MBP!
Why isn't your post covered with likes?!
Thanks, man!
I'm looking forward to him.
But I want to see also how he's going to react to that horrible flimsy anti-design 3.5 mm Jack port.
Will you buy it anyway, Opp?
How much thinner and lighter do you think a MBP would be if you designed it around an all in one chip? Both the current MBPs are 1.8cm thick and the 13 inch one does not come with a dGPU so I'm not convinced your argument stacks up. Are you saying the design of the 13 inch model has been compromised by a choice Apple made with the 15 inch model? Because that sounds a bit odd.
Cost, reliability? Just choose the iGPU model and problem solved. In the UK it's £400 pounds cheaper.
Everyone always freaks out and crucifies Apple for removing things (floppy, old Apple IO, optical drive) but years later we are all happy and realize what a good decision it was. I think dropping USB-A on notebooks will be similar. It honestly doesn't bother me much. I'll just get an adapter. Adding it to the cost of an over $2000 computer is immaterial.
I'm fine with whatever Apple does as this will be my first MacBook Pro. And, yes, I'm waiting to buy it for school use in the fall (I teach). My school has had a faculty computer purchase program in the past where they'll purchase for you a Mac (or PC) and spread the cost over a year's paychecks with a deduction each pay period. Might be a nice way to go and get a fully loaded model without having to cough up a bunch of cash. That doesn't happen until the first week of September- so I'll have to wait anyway if I go this route.
This is silly, but about the only cosmetic thing I'm hoping it has is the illuminated Apple logo...though I doubt they'll do that.
And, yes, I'm waiting to buy it for school use in the fall (I teach). My school has had a faculty computer purchase program in the past where they'll purchase for you a Mac (or PC) and spread the cost over a year's paychecks with a deduction each pay period. Might be a nice way to go and get a fully loaded model without having to cough up a bunch of cash. That doesn't happen until the first week of September- so I'll have to wait anyway if I go this route.This is silly, but about the only cosmetic thing I'm hoping it has is the illuminated Apple logo...though I doubt they'll do that.
I'm saying, a unified design would need to be bigger to have space for double the cooling. CPU=45W, CPU and GPU=95W
I was always taught: If you are about to say something rude, unnecessary or disrespectful, don't say it at all.
I understand this extreme wait is turning us into this:
But going at eachother doesn't help anyone.
I hate policing but this had to be said...
Lastly just to put a smile on everyones face:
I understand this extreme wait is turning us into this:
But going at eachother doesn't help anyone.
I hate policing but this had to be said...
Lastly just to put a smile on everyones face:
Thank you, that worked.
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