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Good God this "OLED bar" sounds like something Dell would think up. The first thing I did when I started a new job a few years ago was to unplug the Dell "multimedia" keyboard, chuck it in the bin and plug in my newly vacuumed Das Keyboard.

Two USB-c is enough. Maybe three on 16".

Hope track pad is invisible. I'd like to be able to dim or turn off the logo light.

No 3.5mm dinosaurs. Maybe hide it inside a USB-c (if possible).

Classic silver for me. I'll be favouring battery life so it'll be 16gb ram and i5. Keyboard options would be nice. UK short travel for me.

Surely that's pretty difficult to do? The logo light is just the backlight of the display, it's not separately powered? I'd prefer for them just to go with the mirrored logo à la the retina MacBook, I personally think it looks a fair bit cleaner and more modern.
 
F8 toggles Orthomode, but you know that.
yes sir, didn't want to get too specific.
You can rebind that in Karabiner. There's even a standard toggle that binds middle mouse key to F8.
already done a rebind so that when using autocad F8 works as ortho on/off without pausing iTunes, middle mouse click to pan is quite useful to me...so F8 till i die, or till i'll have an f8 key :(
 
I really hope you are wrong. Yes 14,200th post, yes yes yes!!!
I just found this:
Intel offers three versions of the controller: one "DP" version that uses a PCIe 3.0 ×4 link to provide two Thunderbolt 3 ports (DSL6540); one "SP" version that uses a PCIe 3.0 ×4 link to provide one Thunderbolt 3 port (DSL6340); and another "LP" (Low Power) version that uses a PCIe 3.0 ×2 link to provide one Thunderbolt 3 port (JHL6240).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

It looks like I was wrong according to this but it's still confusing because it says everywhere that TB3 uses 4x PCI express 3.0.
 
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In terms of the 5K Thunderbolt Display w/ eGPU, I doubt apple will include a GPU that acts like a "Graphic Amplifier". Here is my logic:
1. Would it overlap iMac's function? No one want to have a messy product category.
2. The true "Graphic Amplifier" should be the upcoming Mac Pro 7,1, rumoured to include AMD Polaris 10/ Vega 10 Graphic.
3. HSA 2.0. As explained above, a Mac Pro should provide enough graphic power for a MBP when connecting to the MBP in a HSA 2.0 distributed computing mode.
4. Skylake's DisplayPort 1.2 dilemma. If the new MBPs are shipped with only iris pro 580, they will not be able to drive 5K display through only one Thunderbolt 3 cable. Only the ones with discreet graphics (w/ display port 1.3-1.4) are able to do it.
5. Consideration to profitability

In a word, I believe Apple will only include a graphic solution (such as a R9 M380) that is just capable enough to run the system animations and basic tasks in applications that a Mac ships with, which in this context is Display Card just like Radeon HD 2600XTs and GT 130s some people's classic Mac Pro's. As for the Computation Cards like the flashed Maxwells in the cMPs, A Mac Pro with HSA 2.0 or external graphic boxes will suffice.
 
I just found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

It looks like I was wrong according to this but it's still confusing because it says everywhere that TB3 uses 4x PCI express 3.0.
yeah, i was replying to you about the possibility to use 2x 3.0, but as you can read, the 2x 3.0 only offers 1 TB3 connection, so you was right about the 4 lanes needed.
the LP version, can use 2x 3.0 but as far as i know you can't use it as power connection, only for data/video, but i may be wrong.
 
Thank you :D

I made another one for my dream Slate Retina Macbook Pro.
Make it happen Apple.
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Take my money!
 
In terms of the 5K Thunderbolt Display w/ eGPU, I doubt apple will include a GPU that acts like a "Graphic Amplifier". Here is my logic:

4. Skylake's DisplayPort 1.2 dilemma. If the new MBPs are shipped with only iris pro 580, they will not be able to drive 5K display through only one Thunderbolt 3 cable. Only the ones with discreet graphics (w/ display port 1.3-1.4) are able to do it.

People NEED to stop confusing this. Thunderbolt 3 can drive a 5K display at 60Hz. Thunderbolt 3 has 8 lanes, not the usual 4 a DisplayPort 1.2 has, that means double the bandwidth. If any of you want to confirm this go to the Thunderbolt website and look for the infographic. It states clearly that it can drive a 5K display at 60Hz just with a single cable.

Off topic:
Thunderbolt 3 comes in two variants the single port controller and the dual port controller. Both use 4x PCI-E 3.0 lanes. The two port controller shares bandwidth when both are using it simultaneously. If the USB-C ports on both sides are indeed all TB3 enabled, they will use two separate Alpine ridge controllers (the dual port config). That will suck 8x PCI-E 3.0. Leaving the usual 4x lanes for the NVMe SSD.
So in conclusion
8x PCIe lanes dedicated to the two alpine ridge chips
4x for the ssd
1x for the airport card
 
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yes the thunderbolt display with a mid tier dgpu is the answer for the bigger MBP lack of any dgpu
 
People NEED to stop confusing this. Thunderbolt 3 can drive a 5K display at 60Hz. Thunderbolt 3 has 8 lanes, not the usual 4 a DisplayPort 1.2 has, that means double the bandwidth. If any of you want to confirm this go to the Thunderbolt website and look for the infographic. It states clearly that it can drive a 5K display at 60Hz just with a single cable.
 

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Im talking about display port lanes not pci express....
That's what people get mixed up.
Wait let me look for the pic so everyone can see.

What are the video formats supported by Thunderbolt 3?
Thunderbolt 3 is based on the DisplayPort 1.2 specification and can support up to 2 streams (eight lanes) of DisplayPort 1.2 video bandwidth. A single cable now provides four times the data and twice the video bandwidth of any other cable, while also supplying up to 100W of power.

One 4K display (4096 x 2160) 30-bit @ 120 Hz
One 5K display (5120 x 2880) 30-bit @ 60 Hz
Two 4K displays each (4096 x 2160) 30-bit @ 60 Hz

- See more at: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/tech/faq#sthash.Z8LmOfI0.dpuf

- See more at: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/tech/faq#sthash.Z8LmOfI0.dpuf
Thunderbolt3_infographic_100715.jpg
 
Thunderbolt 3 carries 2x DP 1.2 in one single cable - that's enough for 5k 60Hz.
The intersting part will be if HD580 is able to drive a 5k display while performing other graphic intense tasks.
 
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2. The true "Graphic Amplifier" should be the upcoming Mac Pro 7,1, rumoured to include AMD Polaris 10/ Vega 10 Graphic.
3. HSA 2.0. As explained above, a Mac Pro should provide enough graphic power for a MBP when connecting to the MBP in a HSA 2.0 distributed computing mode.

U wot m8?

I want to extend my screen. I buy new 5k Apple Thunderbolt Display. It conveniently has graphics card and is pretty cool.
Do you suggest I should also get another 5k$ computer just to have extra display? This is beyond retarded. I just want extra display for my MBP when I'm at home.
Maybe in a land where each monitor comes with free 5k MacPro this is possible, but we are like mere mortals discussing stuff here.

Also if I have Mac Pro and Apple 5k display at home, why do I bother with connecting my ****** macbook pro to that?
 
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Why are you discussing it, though? How it would work is obvious. There are existing solutions that not only pipe data to an external GPU, but pipe the output back through the same cable to an internal screen.

It obviously works! The question is whether it is something we'll see from Apple or not. I say it's unlikely, but even if it was an option I wouldn't buy it. I prefer Dell displays :)
 
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U wot m8?

I want to extend my screen. I buy new 5k Apple Thunderbolt Display. It conveniently has graphics card and is pretty cool.
Do you suggest I should also get another 5k$ computer just to have extra display? This is beyond retarded. I just want extra display for my MBP when I'm at home.
Maybe in a land where each monitor comes with free 5k MacPro this is possible, but we are like mere mortals discussing stuff here.

Also if I have Mac Pro and Apple 5k display at home, why do I bother with connecting my ****** macbook pro to that?
Read my post. I never say a Mac Pro is necessary. I just don't agree with people willing to use the display as a razor core.
 
I might be the only one, but I'm super tired of everyone complaining about damn watch bands all of the time. People just won't stop rehashing these old tired arguments over and over again.

I have a question. If one Thunderbolt 3 port uses up 4 lanes of PCIe traffic, how does it support up to 8 lanes of DP 1.2 traffic? Is it taking multiple DP lanes and putting them on a single lane of Thunderbolt 3?
 
The hd580 will be put in idle and only the dgpu will be used from the display
Why, that is the way I have thought about that.
In terms of the 5K Thunderbolt Display w/ eGPU, I doubt apple will include a GPU that acts like a "Graphic Amplifier". Here is my logic:
1. Would it overlap iMac's function? No one want to have a messy product category.
2. The true "Graphic Amplifier" should be the upcoming Mac Pro 7,1, rumoured to include AMD Polaris 10/ Vega 10 Graphic.
3. HSA 2.0. As explained above, a Mac Pro should provide enough graphic power for a MBP when connecting to the MBP in a HSA 2.0 distributed computing mode.
4. Skylake's DisplayPort 1.2 dilemma. If the new MBPs are shipped with only iris pro 580, they will not be able to drive 5K display through only one Thunderbolt 3 cable. Only the ones with discreet graphics (w/ display port 1.3-1.4) are able to do it.
5. Consideration to profitability

In a word, I believe Apple will only include a graphic solution (such as a R9 M380) that is just capable enough to run the system animations and basic tasks in applications that a Mac ships with, which in this context is Display Card just like Radeon HD 2600XTs and GT 130s some people's classic Mac Pro's. As for the Computation Cards like the flashed Maxwells in the cMPs, A Mac Pro with HSA 2.0 or external graphic boxes will suffice.
 
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YUSSS!!
More wristbands!
That's what I'm talking about, Tim!
Throw away those MBP mockups!
Update 06/01/2016 8:12AM PDT: After speaking to a Coach representative, we’ve learned that the bands should begin arriving to Coach stores on June 6th. The bands have been confirmed to be priced at $150, though sizing is still a mystery. So nothing to do with wwdc
 
If Apple release the new MBP on WWDC, how the new features of the mbp will work if the software ( OS.12 ) isn't released until the fall ?
 
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I don't get why people are so excited about the new displays with GPU. The GPU will be underpowered, there will probably be some thermal throttling if there device is similar to either the cinema display or iMac, you definitely won't be able to upgrade the card, and we all know Apple's great track record with GPU

And the price
 
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