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You wouldn't need 10.12.

Yeah i agree with you, they may have a custom designed OS X 10.11.6 Version that is optimized for the new Macbook Pro. But i think that only with 10.12 the new Macbook Pro will play out it full advantages because the API to use the OLED Bar are surely only available under 10.12
 
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If Apple release the new MBP on WWDC, how the new features of the mbp will work if the software ( OS.12 ) isn't released until the fall ?

They release it with the Beta 1 of 10.12 because the new MBP as a first Gen. Product is also beta for the early buyers.
 
Maybe they introduce the Siri feature for the bar with the next OS. Until then we get the function keys...

..and song lyrics ;)
 
They release it with the Beta 1 of 10.12 because the new MBP as a first Gen. Product is also beta for the early buyers.

Maybe they introduce the Siri feature for the bar with the next OS. Until then we get the function keys...

..and song lyrics ;)
These are not very good solutions for marketing a new product.

They simply won't release new mbp's until 10.12.
Possible, if they don't announce at WWDC.
 
I don't get why people are so excited about the new displays with GPU. The GPU will be underpowered, there will probably be some thermal throttling if there device is similar to either the cinema display or iMac, you definitely won't be able to upgrade the card, and we all know Apple's great track record with GPU

And the price
Besides it would mean less likelihood of dgpu in the rmbp and no egpu like razor core
 
They release it with the Beta 1 of 10.12 because the new MBP as a first Gen. Product is also beta for the early buyers.

A computer that costs over $2000 being released to consumers as a beta? Uh...definitely not. That thing had better be a rock solid, final release. I mean, it's not software that you can just update over the Internet.
 
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Unless 10.12 has some architectural change inside( like the rumoured HSA 2.0 implementation) and features the support of secure enclave for Touch ID, we will see the new MBP come with El Capitan just like what happened 4years ago.
 
They simply won't release new mbp's until 10.12.
Apple can do whatever Apple wants to do.
That's the advantage of making the hardware and the software.
If Apple wants to throw out a new OS X version early to release new MBPs with, they will do.
If Apple wants to make a custom version of the current one, they will do.
 
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I'd be more concerned about their 1st gen hardware being a beta rather than the OS.
Things haven't been very flawless on their 1st gen devices after a new design.
Think about all the issues that they had with 1st gens of unibody MBP, MBA, rMBP, rMB, Mac Pro, iPhone 4/5/6 ...
 
A good question for all of you:
Now, the newest laptop of Apple is the Skylake Macbook (recently launched), and if Apple releases a new display, that macbook will support it. But this model only have an usb-c port with DisplayPort 1.2 and here is when the 5k display with dgpu integrated has sense...so the question is, if the display has that dgpu, is there a way to connect it with that macbook? Usb-c/Dp1.2 is enough because of the integrated dgpu??
 
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A good question for all of you:
Now, the newest laptop of Apple is the Skylake Macbook (recently launched), and if Apple releases a new display, that macbook will support it. But this model only have an usb-c port with DisplayPort 1.2 and here is when the 5k display with dgpu integrated has sense...so the question is, if the display has that dgpu, is there a way to connect it with that macbook? Usb-c/Dp1.2 is enough because of the integrated dgpu??

Thunderbolt 3 has two lanes of DP1.2 and is able to drive 5K@60Hz via MST (or that's what people say). Iris Pro 580 should be powerful enough to do non-3D stuff at this resolution. Doing 3D stuff at this resolution is pretty heavy work and will need a dGPU (which is also supported by Thunderbolt 3) or downscaling.
 
Thunderbolt 3 has two lanes of DP1.2 and is able to drive 5K@60Hz via MST (or that's what people say). Iris Pro 580 should be powerful enough to do non-3D stuff at this resolution. Doing 3D stuff at this resolution is pretty heavy work and will need a dGPU (which is also supported by Thunderbolt 3) or downscaling.

Please, reade my question again. I asked about 12" macbook. It hasn't got TB3 or Iris Pro 580. Only intel hd 515 and usb-c 3.1 gen1.
 
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You need the MacBook charger with a USB-C to lightning cable my friend

Thanks dude. Sorry I know this is way back, but you guys simply post way too fast Anyway just let that once sink in, bought a device for over a grand but need a different charger to actually make it 'useful'. Apple must be earning tons of money from their god damn adapters. Hate that approach, best customer service my ass. I would really appreciate a more consumer friendly approach aka including adapters if they decide to switch peripherals but I guess that's a wish that will never come true...

Ranting because I'm also thinking about the adapters I'll have to get for the new rMBP. It's not like their products are cheap to start out with right? Anyone telling me that the adapters cost nothing in comparison to the initial cost surely isn't the most financially responsible person. How does an initial high price justify purchasing adapters for 50+ whatever valuable currency? Specifically mentioning that argument because I've seen it here way too often to ignore..

EDIT: someone remind me of the correct word to use rather than "peripherals"
 
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Thanks dude. Sorry I know this is way back, but you guys simply post way too fast Anyway just let that once sink in, bought a device for over a grand but need a different charger to actually make it 'useful'. Apple must be earning tons of money from their god damn adapters. Hate that approach, best customer service my ass. I would really appreciate a more consumer friendly approach aka including adapters if they decide to switch peripherals but I guess that's a wish that will never come true...

Ranting because I'm also thinking about the adapters I'll have to get for the new rMBP. It's not like their products are cheap to start out with right? Anyone telling me that the adapters cost nothing in comparison to the initial cost surely isn't the most financially responsible person. How does an initial high price justify purchasing adapters for 50+ whatever valuable currency? Specifically mentioning that argument because I've seen it here way too often to ignore..

EDIT: someone remind me of the correct word to use rather than "peripherals"

It doesn't justify anything. However, if you are going to pay out $2k for a brand new, high-end laptop...what's an extra $50 for a few adapters? Plus, no one says that you have to buy them from Apple. You can go third party, and Apple knows this, so I don't think it's a cash grab. It's a very marginal addition to the overall price of your purchase. I don't see how thinking this way is financially irresponsible.
 
I'd prefer one USB-C on each side plus an HDMI port and a damn smaller track pad. But whatever.. :rolleyes:
 
It doesn't justify anything. However, if you are going to pay out $2k for a brand new, high-end laptop...what's an extra $50 for a few adapters? Plus, no one says that you have to buy them from Apple. You can go third party, and Apple knows this, so I don't think it's a cash grab. It's a very marginal addition to the overall price of your purchase. I don't see how thinking this way is financially irresponsible.
Well I'd say it's a difference of how one views money. Some view it in an objective sense where $50+ is too much to be spending on an adapter (not even a peripheral but an adapter) after spending $2k as comparatively $50+ is something some people can spend a months worth of groceries on. But, there's the other view where money is relative to ones earnings and ability to spend and takes the assumption that if you have $2k to spend on a single laptop then $50+ isn't much for you.

Obviously there's not right or wrong here, but it's just a difference in view point. I personally tend to agree with the former argument. Especially if it is something that normally is assumed to function on other devices but requires an adapter just because Apple said so. I know some will say that then I'd have the choice to go elsewhere etc. but still $50+ for an adapter just because it has the Apple branding is a bit too much imo.
 
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Well I'd say it's a difference of how one views money. Some view it in an objective sense where $50+ is too much to be spending on an adapter (not even a peripheral but an adapter) after spending $2k as comparatively $50+ is something some people can spend a months worth of groceries on. But, there's the other view where money is relative to ones earnings and ability to spend and takes the assumption that if you have $2k to spend on a single laptop then $50+ isn't much for you.

Obviously there's not right or wrong here, but it's just a difference in view point. I personally tend to agree with the former argument. Especially if it is something that normally is assumed to function on other devices but requires an adapter just because Apple said so. I know some will say that then I'd have the choice to go elsewhere etc. but still $50+ for an adapter just because it has the Apple branding is a bit too much imo.

I guess I view money as relative rather than objective then. If you are someone that's going to purchase a laptop that could be over $2k, I don't really believe you have a leg to stand on if you are then going to complain about the cost of an adapter. Complaining about needing one in the first place makes sense, but the cost aspect?

Again, in this instance, you don't have to buy an Apple branded adapter either. Anyone can make USB-C adapters if they want to. Further up in the thread, people were linking to third party adapters that you could buy that would presumably be cheaper than an Apple first party accessory. I found a USB-A to USB-C adapter for around $10 from Monoprice on Google just right now.
 
I guess I view money as relative rather than objective then. If you are someone that's going to purchase a laptop that could be over $2k, I don't really believe you have a leg to stand on if you are then going to complain about the cost of an adapter. Complaining about needing one in the first place makes sense, but the cost aspect?

Again, in this instance, you don't have to buy an Apple branded adapter either. Anyone can make USB-C adapters if they want to. Further up in the thread, people were linking to third party adapters that you could buy that would presumably be cheaper than an Apple first party accessory. I found a USB-A to USB-C adapter for around $10 from Monoprice on Google just right now.
Fair enough, just one point though. Apple's policy on third party adapters are often dubious. They have certified for iOS program but the moment one uses a uncertified third-party peripheral the treatment changes. Example, original Apple chargers or certified chargers for iOS devices are quite pricey for what they are, so one buys and uses a uncertified third-party peripheral that's a fraction of the cost. If something unrelated causes the device to malfunction then Apple will blame that third-party peripheral and say it's user fault. Obviously there would be quality issues, but one shouldn't have to spend more than what they originally spend to use a device normally.
 
Thanks dude. Sorry I know this is way back, but you guys simply post way too fast Anyway just let that once sink in, bought a device for over a grand but need a different charger to actually make it 'useful'. Apple must be earning tons of money from their god damn adapters. Hate that approach, best customer service my ass. I would really appreciate a more consumer friendly approach aka including adapters if they decide to switch peripherals but I guess that's a wish that will never come true...

Ranting because I'm also thinking about the adapters I'll have to get for the new rMBP. It's not like their products are cheap to start out with right? Anyone telling me that the adapters cost nothing in comparison to the initial cost surely isn't the most financially responsible person. How does an initial high price justify purchasing adapters for 50+ whatever valuable currency? Specifically mentioning that argument because I've seen it here way too often to ignore..

EDIT: someone remind me of the correct word to use rather than "peripherals"
Haha! I know exactly what you mean. I bought the iPad Pro thinking it'd be great. Turns out it really is just a big iPad with a still to limiting operating software. Absolutely no where near a laptop.
Proper charging whilst using needs an upgraded power adapter and cable, USB usage needs an adapter etc etc.
I suddenly thought, why the hell am I bothering with all this extra stuff just to get something to work like a laptop? When it actually won't ever??
So I took it back and looked at a MacBook Pro, hence why I'm here!
Trouble is, a shiny MacBook Pro with an OLED touch bar is going to be way more again. Hmmmmmm......
 
Moreover, sources indicate that Apple will take the display in a surprising direction, specifically suggesting that Apple plans to integrate a dedicated external GPU into the display itself

Wow, that makes so much sense. That way the GPUs are matched to their own screens, whether in laptops or external monitors, and there is a lot more room for a high-performance GPU in an external monitor.

Edit: I see people are already complaining that this GPU won't be upgradable. Funny that this was never a source of complaint in MBPs!
 
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