This is just an amendment on the new display ONLY, I still believe on New Macbooks ans a New Mac Pro to be revealed at WWDC.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
- Thread starter adildacoolset
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
- Status
I saw an article where someone reads the fact that the invite says "Hello" as "new Macs are coming because Steve Jobs used the word Hello before and the WWDC16 text is in colours". That's more desperate than Serban's ever-growing PM list.
Yeah, I can imaging the engineering department coming up with all these incremental updates, and the higher ups shooting them down..."Wait"
It's like they have their sights so set on a massive redesign that they lost sight of the smaller picture, and now they know, people do want incremental updates, want Apple to consistently stay at the front of the pack.
Haven't been here for four days and I missed everything. I'm both happy and sad now. I'm confused.
....This thread lately
You don't need a whole new OS just to drive a hardware feature. By that logic, there would have to be a new version of Windows for every hardware configuration imaginable.
AMD just announced Polaris 10 a couple of days ago and said that Polaris 11 will be announced shortly thereafter.
You don't need a whole new OS just to drive a hardware feature. By that logic, there would have to be a new version of Windows for every hardware configuration imaginable.
AMD just announced Polaris 10 a couple of days ago and said that Polaris 11 will be announced shortly thereafter.
....This thread lately
You don't need a whole new OS just to drive a hardware feature. By that logic, there would have to be a new version of Windows for every hardware configuration imaginable.
AMD just announced Polaris 10 a couple of days ago and said that Polaris 11 will be announced shortly thereafter.
I didn't watch the AMD presentation but did read the text commentary - are you sure they said anything about Polaris 11?
Is it just me or does Apple's reputation slowly seem to be degrading?
They have the money, the staff and the right teams to be able to bring out major products but their focus seems to be somewhere unknown. It is good if they are spending time developing things like an Apple Car and other home machines. But they are forgetting what they stand for and what their roots are. I'm just dissapointed.
Been waiting 14 months now for the new Skylake rMBP to see the light...
In retrospect, I am stupid I didn't buy a 15"inch mid2015 rMBP when it was "hot" off the press....
[doublepost=1464903061][/doublepost]
They have the money, the staff and the right teams to be able to bring out major products but their focus seems to be somewhere unknown. It is good if they are spending time developing things like an Apple Car and other home machines. But they are forgetting what they stand for and what their roots are. I'm just dissapointed.
Been waiting 14 months now for the new Skylake rMBP to see the light...
In retrospect, I am stupid I didn't buy a 15"inch mid2015 rMBP when it was "hot" off the press....
[doublepost=1464903061][/doublepost]
Last edited:
What gets me is that a new design is coming out. This isn't something that comes up overnight. So if Apple has been designing this machine for a while now, why not update to broadwell last year like everyone else? I'm not upset about the lack of skylake as there really isn't ANY manufacturer releasing skylakes with 580 GPUs. But the miss on broadwell is unacceptable.
I can only hope that it means certain analysts are relatively far more excited about a certain software release than a new MBP.
Yes where did you see that? No website I've seen has reported anything about it.
[doublepost=1464903376][/doublepost]
New iOS and OSX versions that aren't full of bugs... for once! Apple have been pretty useless with their software of late.
So much this.
And the word "unacceptable" is absolutely right.
Suitable Broadwell CPU for 15" were released, like, a couple of weeks later.
Apple has really no excuses.
Like many others here I "NEED" this macbook pro update to come as quickly as possible so it would be nice to have an announcement at the WWDC. (I start grad school in August and I have a piece of **** PC and I ain't going back to PCs)
Based on the 2015 mbp, I'm assuming that the specs for the base 13" (or 14) mbp 2016 are going to be the following (remember these are not rumors, just an estimate based on what I would call a "logical" evolution.
Skylake i5 6267U 2.9 Ghz
16 gb RAM (hopefully DDR4)
intel iris 550
the 4 usb-c ports with 2 of them being thunderbolt 3 seems plausible as all the U processors have 12 PCI-E pipelines and each thunderbolt 3 takes up 4 pipelines (I'm not an expert so please correct me if I'm wrong)
I'm hoping for thickness that is equal to that of the thickest point of the 12 inch mb.
I noticed many people who bash Serban or who bash each other in the forums. Whether you think he's a liar or not, doesn't mean you have to become aggressive or insulting. I think that we can learn a thing or two about what he has to say.
Based on the 2015 mbp, I'm assuming that the specs for the base 13" (or 14) mbp 2016 are going to be the following (remember these are not rumors, just an estimate based on what I would call a "logical" evolution.
Skylake i5 6267U 2.9 Ghz
16 gb RAM (hopefully DDR4)
intel iris 550
the 4 usb-c ports with 2 of them being thunderbolt 3 seems plausible as all the U processors have 12 PCI-E pipelines and each thunderbolt 3 takes up 4 pipelines (I'm not an expert so please correct me if I'm wrong)
I'm hoping for thickness that is equal to that of the thickest point of the 12 inch mb.
I noticed many people who bash Serban or who bash each other in the forums. Whether you think he's a liar or not, doesn't mean you have to become aggressive or insulting. I think that we can learn a thing or two about what he has to say.
That's what tends to happen when you're a major computer company and can't even be bothered to keep your core hardware up to date. They've been irresponsible with/not cared about updates to their non-mobile devices (MBP included). That's why there reputation seems to be degrading.
Sorry, don't remember exactly where I read it in my random browsing of the internet but I do remember reading it in an article. I don't know how much it matters though considering that "shortly thereafter" usually means a week to a month. Also, Polaris 10, which has been announced, will first be available June 29th. So too late for WWDC.
I think a little scepticism is warranted and anything that Serban says should be taken with a grain of salt. If he sends out his PM and it contains a legitimate leak, then sure, that's awesome.
I heard a rumour that the engineers are currently testing the next version of macOS. Siri is guaranteed. A timer app is also coming. Performance of everything will majorly increase with an update to Metal (they're bringing Epic Games to discuss it at WWDC). My source also tells me that Finder will undergo a major overhaul, though they are still testing multiple versions (one is the same as in El Capitan, another puts the dark theme systemwide (on every window etc) and the last is very radical but I don't think that they'll use it).
See, it's rather easy to make up rumours. Perhaps they're true...
I heard a rumour that the engineers are currently testing the next version of macOS. Siri is guaranteed. A timer app is also coming. Performance of everything will majorly increase with an update to Metal (they're bringing Epic Games to discuss it at WWDC). My source also tells me that Finder will undergo a major overhaul, though they are still testing multiple versions (one is the same as in El Capitan, another puts the dark theme systemwide (on every window etc) and the last is very radical but I don't think that they'll use it).
See, it's rather easy to make up rumours. Perhaps they're true...
An irrelevant aside to all of this - today I stopped in an Apple Store while on my way someplace else. I was testing the keyboards on the MacBook thinking that's what the updated Pro will get.
A lady and her daughter were quizzing an ermest Apple employee about the current rMBP's. The employee was extolling the virtues of one model over another and it looked like they were ready to buy without any knowledge that they were about to buy a 4 year old processor.
This is what the Apple marketing machine counts on - most people who buy these products don't know or even care what's inside them. They just want the latest Apple product. And, for people like the ones I saw today, and probably for most of us, the current model will work just fine.
I wanted to say "wait for two weeks," but beyond our relatively small group here, nobody cares.
Ok, carry on.
A lady and her daughter were quizzing an ermest Apple employee about the current rMBP's. The employee was extolling the virtues of one model over another and it looked like they were ready to buy without any knowledge that they were about to buy a 4 year old processor.
This is what the Apple marketing machine counts on - most people who buy these products don't know or even care what's inside them. They just want the latest Apple product. And, for people like the ones I saw today, and probably for most of us, the current model will work just fine.
I wanted to say "wait for two weeks," but beyond our relatively small group here, nobody cares.
Ok, carry on.
Perhaps! This is exactly what drives these threads. Rumors. the name of this site is Macrumors. We eventually find out whether they are true or not. If someone decides to lie about information then that is their problem and not mine. It doesn't change the fact that for the time waiting for the actual release of the product, I am satisfied with the flow of information!
You know what I really want for MacOS...to actually adopt a few apps from iOS. Yes that timer app seems like a good idea. Also, kill PhotoBooth and port over Camera from iOS to Mac. PhotoBooth is so outdated and just doesnt fit in with their new frosty design language.
Ummm...."light on hardware"....what kind of code is that?!? Sounds like they're talking about a new external 5K monitor to me- what is a monitor if NOT "light on hardware"?!?!?!?
[doublepost=1464905891][/doublepost]
It's just you. Apple's rep is just fine.
[doublepost=1464906013][/doublepost]
What I REALLY need in the new MacOS is some kind of a watchband inventory app so I can catalog and rearrange and color coordinate my bands with my outfits...oh and more watchbands.
[doublepost=1464905891][/doublepost]
It's just you. Apple's rep is just fine.
[doublepost=1464906013][/doublepost]
What I REALLY need in the new MacOS is some kind of a watchband inventory app so I can catalog and rearrange and color coordinate my bands with my outfits...oh and more watchbands.
The "light on hardware" is actually referring to the thinness of the new products.. 'Cause they're light
Thank you! People here on MacRumors act as if the sky is falling down because we don't have a new MBP yet with a fresh new design, Skylake, Thunderbolt 3, etc. and they think that Apple is flushing their PC business down the toilet. I can understand these sentiments because I am going completely cray cray over the fact that we still have the same old, stale design with 2013 technology (albeit with state of the art 2015 storage tech) and feel that the neglect towards the Mac is inexcusable. But we only represent a very, very small fraction of PC buyers in general. Your average tech consumer, hell, even your above average tech consumer doesn't care or know about these things. They couldn't tell you the difference between Skylake and Lake Titicaca. They couldn't tell you the difference between Sandy Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge. They have no clue what Thunderbolt is, nor do they really care that much because it's not a technology that they are ever going to derive increased utility from. Let's face it...99.9% of people are never going to use it to hook up an eGPU. Very few are going to buy a Thunderbolt docking station or display and marvel over how one cable can carry everything that you might need.
These people don't care. They just want a computer; a good computer that will be easy to use, is a quality product, and access to good customer service for it. Most importantly, they want or need one right now. You can tell them that they can wait two weeks to a couple of months (if we are really unlucky) for a new model, but when you give them the reasons for waiting, I don't think that any of them will resonate very much. A Skylake processor that is only marginally faster and with improved integrated graphics? They won't care. Thunderbolt 3? They won't care either. USB-C? Ditto. Polaris? What does the North Star have to do with a computer? A few millimeters thinner? Nah.
I laugh when people come out and say that the reason why Mac sales were so much lower this last fiscal quarter is because of the fact that they have old tech in them and aren't competitive. No, Apple didn't sell hundreds of thousands of less (or was it over a million?) Mac's because of Broadwell in the 15" or no Skylake or whatever other shortcomings they can think of. They sold less because far fewer people actually need a PC these days, and those that do need one keep it for years and years longer.
Most consumers who are in the market for a PC, even if it's a higher end Mac, will act exactly like the mother and daughter in the Apple Store.
Wtf apple, I am worrying about you! You are increasing the iPhone refresh cycle to 3 years and in addition you are going to release new macbook pros in September..?! What is going on
Who said that Apple was increasing the iPhone cycle to three years though? Apple certainly didn't say that and we can't take a rumor as fact. Sure, the iPhone 7 is probably going to be a part of the 6/6s family, but will that be an aberration or the new norm? Since Apple isn't forthcoming with their plans, we probably won't know the answer to this until 2018 or 2019 at the earliest. (September - iPhone 7 or iPhone 6SS, 2017 - Next-Gen iPhone, 2018 - Next-Gen iPhone S, 2019 - We see if they decide to release a third iPhone based on the 2017 design or launch a new design)
When it comes down to it though, an iPhone is just a computer just as much as a Mac despite the differences in functionality and features. The MBP seems to be on a four year refresh (with new generations in 2008, 2012, and 2016), and as the smartphones enters maturity, it would make sense for them to lengthen the design cycle for the iPhone as well. I think in the coming future, more and more people will treat their smartphones like laptops and not replace them every other year, especially with the elimination of carrier subsidies. Also, let's keep in mind that the iPhone 4/4s and iPhone 5/5s were pretty similar to one another as well with respect to design, too.
I guess I just don't see this as a problem like others.
- Status