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Guys, I was thinking...
...since maybe (I still want to believe) we won't see the new MBP at the WWDC, but instead in october,
so

basically,

will it use Kaby Lake?


:D

ok, ok, I'll stop..

September is for Iphone , then October?
Hell no please.
 
Guys, I was thinking...
...since maybe (I still want to believe) we won't see the new MBP at the WWDC, but instead in october,
so

basically,

will it use Kaby Lake?


:D

ok, ok, I'll stop..

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What gets me is that a new design is coming out. This isn't something that comes up overnight. So if Apple has been designing this machine for a while now, why not update to broadwell last year like everyone else? I'm not upset about the lack of skylake as there really isn't ANY manufacturer releasing skylakes with 580 GPUs. But the miss on broadwell is unacceptable.
I soo agree with this. October would be close to 500 days since the May 2015 15" mbp refresh, double their avg refresh cycle of 250 days. Broadwell at the fall 2015 iMac event or March 2016 event would have made sense if they were waiting till fall 2016
 
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If they are waiting till Fall...I think they might update the current MacBook Pro lineup to Skylake Processors.
I'd be satisfied with that and a $100 price drop (excluding Education discount).

But, WWDC would be a perfectly timed redesign to the MBP lineup. Just saying.
 
What gets me is that a new design is coming out. This isn't something that comes up overnight. So if Apple has been designing this machine for a while now, why not update to broadwell last year like everyone else? I'm not upset about the lack of skylake as there really isn't ANY manufacturer releasing skylakes with 580 GPUs. But the miss on broadwell is unacceptable.

What's worse is that it's not like they are completely spending time and resources on iPads or other products. They designed an entirely new laptop from scratch, oozing with new technology and shininess that resulted in a niche product due to its price, lack of ports, and low power AND refreshed it already with another new color. Nobody needed the retina MacBook.
 
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An irrelevant aside to all of this - today I stopped in an Apple Store while on my way someplace else. I was testing the keyboards on the MacBook thinking that's what the updated Pro will get.

A lady and her daughter were quizzing an ermest Apple employee about the current rMBP's. The employee was extolling the virtues of one model over another and it looked like they were ready to buy without any knowledge that they were about to buy a 4 year old processor.

This is what the Apple marketing machine counts on - most people who buy these products don't know or even care what's inside them. They just want the latest Apple product. And, for people like the ones I saw today, and probably for most of us, the current model will work just fine.

I wanted to say "wait for two weeks," but beyond our relatively small group here, nobody cares.

Ok, carry on.

Also, the corporate work force. When an employee joins our company they're offered either a ThinkPad or MacBook Air. More people are choosing the Air over the ThinkPad. The Air is woefully outdated, but we still buy new ones because people (when it's not their money being spent) would still choose an outdated Air over a far superior ThinkPad.
 
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This is just an amendment on the new display ONLY, I still believe on New Macbooks ans a New Mac Pro to be revealed at WWDC.

No they are saying it's going to be a more of a software event- i.e. very limited or no hardware announcements.

Get ready for some more macbook pro blue balls.

I think folks need to be prepared for an October release and the release of Kaby Lake. Get read for a new thread title change. PS I was here when it was still broadwell.
 
Thank you! People here on MacRumors act as if the sky is falling down because we don't have a new MBP yet with a fresh new design, Skylake, Thunderbolt 3, etc. and they think that Apple is flushing their PC business down the toilet. I can understand these sentiments because I am going completely cray cray over the fact that we still have the same old, stale design with 2013 technology (albeit with state of the art 2015 storage tech) and feel that the neglect towards the Mac is inexcusable. But we only represent a very, very small fraction of PC buyers in general. Your average tech consumer, hell, even your above average tech consumer doesn't care or know about these things. They couldn't tell you the difference between Skylake and Lake Titicaca. They couldn't tell you the difference between Sandy Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge. They have no clue what Thunderbolt is, nor do they really care that much because it's not a technology that they are ever going to derive increased utility from. Let's face it...99.9% of people are never going to use it to hook up an eGPU. Very few are going to buy a Thunderbolt docking station or display and marvel over how one cable can carry everything that you might need.

These people don't care. They just want a computer; a good computer that will be easy to use, is a quality product, and access to good customer service for it. Most importantly, they want or need one right now. You can tell them that they can wait two weeks to a couple of months (if we are really unlucky) for a new model, but when you give them the reasons for waiting, I don't think that any of them will resonate very much. A Skylake processor that is only marginally faster and with improved integrated graphics? They won't care. Thunderbolt 3? They won't care either. USB-C? Ditto. Polaris? What does the North Star have to do with a computer? A few millimeters thinner? Nah.

I laugh when people come out and say that the reason why Mac sales were so much lower this last fiscal quarter is because of the fact that they have old tech in them and aren't competitive. No, Apple didn't sell hundreds of thousands of less (or was it over a million?) Mac's because of Broadwell in the 15" or no Skylake or whatever other shortcomings they can think of. They sold less because far fewer people actually need a PC these days, and those that do need one keep it for years and years longer.

Most consumers who are in the market for a PC, even if it's a higher end Mac, will act exactly like the mother and daughter in the Apple Store.
100% agree - in the end I couldn't really care either and I've been in technology since the first IBM PC's. I made a mistake last year and underbought. I'm correcting that - going high end with this buy and passing my 13" 2015 rMBP down to my daughter for school in the fall. I don't plan on a new buy for a while after this. But I do know the internals - I just don't care any more.
 
Thank you! People here on MacRumors act as if the sky is falling down because we don't have a new MBP yet with a fresh new design, Skylake, Thunderbolt 3, etc. and they think that Apple is flushing their PC business down the toilet. I can understand these sentiments because I am going completely cray cray over the fact that we still have the same old, stale design with 2013 technology (albeit with state of the art 2015 storage tech) and feel that the neglect towards the Mac is inexcusable. But we only represent a very, very small fraction of PC buyers in general. Your average tech consumer, hell, even your above average tech consumer doesn't care or know about these things. They couldn't tell you the difference between Skylake and Lake Titicaca. They couldn't tell you the difference between Sandy Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge. They have no clue what Thunderbolt is, nor do they really care that much because it's not a technology that they are ever going to derive increased utility from. Let's face it...99.9% of people are never going to use it to hook up an eGPU. Very few are going to buy a Thunderbolt docking station or display and marvel over how one cable can carry everything that you might need.

These people don't care. They just want a computer; a good computer that will be easy to use, is a quality product, and access to good customer service for it. Most importantly, they want or need one right now. You can tell them that they can wait two weeks to a couple of months (if we are really unlucky) for a new model, but when you give them the reasons for waiting, I don't think that any of them will resonate very much. A Skylake processor that is only marginally faster and with improved integrated graphics? They won't care. Thunderbolt 3? They won't care either. USB-C? Ditto. Polaris? What does the North Star have to do with a computer? A few millimeters thinner? Nah.

I laugh when people come out and say that the reason why Mac sales were so much lower this last fiscal quarter is because of the fact that they have old tech in them and aren't competitive. No, Apple didn't sell hundreds of thousands of less (or was it over a million?) Mac's because of Broadwell in the 15" or no Skylake or whatever other shortcomings they can think of. They sold less because far fewer people actually need a PC these days, and those that do need one keep it for years and years longer.

Most consumers who are in the market for a PC, even if it's a higher end Mac, will act exactly like the mother and daughter in the Apple Store.

My dream is that one day, I'll walk into the flagship apple store here in London and shout, "MacRumorers, unite!", and together we can tell people to just hold on a bit longer for that updated MacBook Pro/Mac Mini/Mac Pro/Apple TBD/Time Capsule/Airport Extreme.
 
I'm sorry guys, it's confirmed by my secret sources: Apple is not releasing new Macbooks in WWDC, neither this year. Apple is skipping next silicon-based CPUs, they will wait for graphene to release them
I heard it was going to be called Lucy - named for her after she became a disembodied intelligence... It works off of a black thumb drive and is literally cloud based. :) Lt. Comdr. Data will still be waiting for Skylake at this rate.
 
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Guys, I was thinking...
...since maybe (I still want to believe) we won't see the new MBP at the WWDC, but instead in october,
so

basically,

will it use Kaby Lake?


:D

ok, ok, I'll stop..

No, Kabby Lake processors suitable for the 13/15" pros won't be out till 2017. Though I'm secretly holding out hope that Apple has a secret testing facility with Intel to get them Kaby Lake processors before any other manufacturer.
 
How would they support that oled bar without a new MacOS? I don't think its happening at WWDC.

Obviously they have written drivers and software for it on 10.11. How do you think they could create it in the first place? 10.12 is still in heavy development and will be throughout the summer.

I'm not sure why so many people have this question it's hardly the first time where new hardware has come between major software releases...
 
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I heard it was going to be called Lucy - named for her after she became a disembodied intelligence... It works off of a black thumb drive and is literally cloud based. :) Lt. Comdr. Data will still be waiting for Skylake at this rate.

Illuminati triangle+eye avatar = Lucy confirmed.

So do you guys think the new mbps will get longer battery life?

Graphene is really efficient, so I bet they will.
 
My dream is that one day, I'll walk into the flagship apple store here in London and shout, "MacRumorers, unite!", and together we can tell people to just hold on a bit longer for that updated MacBook Pro/Mac Mini/Mac Pro/Apple TBD/Time Capsule/Airport Extreme.

Perhaps we can start a grass roots movement where we all pledge to educate consumers about the shortcomings Macs currently have and be as vocal as possible. :) That might encourage them to kick it up a notch!
 
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Argh, to make this wait even worse my iPhone 6S now dies at just over 20% of battery life. Acts like it's at 0%, but when I plug it in it'll boot after a few seconds and show the battery at >20%. Unplug and it'll die again within a minute.
 
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