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True, though they did present the rMBP as an entirely new product - if you watch the announcement, Schiller makes a comment about needing more room on the slide showing all of their MacBooks, and presented the rMBP as something new, a depiction helped by the fact that its price was higher than the then-current MBPs, and the fact that it shipped only in 15 inches. While it's expected that both of the new MBPs will ship at the same time and won't be (significantly) different in regard to price - despite the changes being large, Apple will probably present it as the next step, dropping the 2015 models in the process. Their product lineup is complicated as it is, with the Air not being the lightest model, so I can't see them keeping both the 2015 and 2016 MacBook Pro models around.

Fair point about his influence, but we've long since reached the point where he hasn't had influence. Jobs was a big fan of Forstall; I doubt he would have ever fired him. But not so long after Jobs' death, Cook fired him and replaced him with Ive, who effectively reinvented the UI of all Apple's software - certainly without Jobs' influence. The new MBP probably won't be a dramatic shift to the extent that the 2015 MacBook was, and that product was certainly not influenced by Jobs (who wouldn't have known about USB-C, or butterfly keyboards, or Core M processors, or the fact that the product could ever be that thin!) so I really think you shouldn't worry.

Great point about the MacBook pro w/ Retina Display being treated as a seperate product. I remember Schiller adding it to the lineup instead of replacing the MacBook Pro with it. Darn, my hopes for a Skylake 2012 rMBP have been crushed.
 
Yeah... I was wondering that. Wasn't @Serban supposed to send out a PM of the photo? Even though the notepad got ****ed up, he could at least send it to a couple of people here. All we got was just more text from him
I second that since @Fandrei seems to be the only one who's mentioned the photos at all in this thread. And he's been a member since yesterday with the couple of posts about the photos being the only posts he's made. Just saying...
 
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Since the majority of WWDC is expected to be software based, what do you think they'll announce?

Obviously new versions of iOS and MacOS, but have there been any leaks for other things?
 
Great point about the MacBook pro w/ Retina Display being treated as a seperate product. I remember Schiller adding it to the lineup instead of replacing the MacBook Pro with it. Darn, my hopes for a Skylake 2012 rMBP have been crushed.

I'm sure it'll be a great product and live up to our expectations, so you won't miss the old design... well, hopefully. If Apple has made us wait for this long only to present an inferior product, people might go crazy.
 
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Is there any possibility that the new rMbp will have a mini display port?

Going off the leak of the chassis, it seems like it probably won't. Just USB-C. There are some odd gaps suggesting some ports may not have been milled yet so there is a slim chance.
 
So one event to announce iPhone 7, Demo and release iOS 10, announce and demo Apple Watch2 and new watchOS, announce and demo new MacBook Pro with OS X 10.12, and release a new display All in one event seems crazy
 
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The point is, Apple could have done all those things AND upgraded the processor. They chose not to. People are understandably annoyed at that.

Apple decided to release an updated 15" MBP before Broadwell chips were even announced. They clearly didn't feel that they could update the processor. If they had waited until quad core Broadwell chips suitable for the MBP were available and in volume, people would have been even madder that they already were. Apple couldn't make a decision that was satisfying to everyone; they were damned if they did and damned it they didn't.

You're naive if you don't think it's based off profit. They could have easily did a silent update to Broadwell the moment they were available (to at least keep it competitive with other systems). Absolutely nothing would have to be changed to make the current rMBP use Broadwell. There's only ONE reason why they wouldn't and that's money.

I'm naive? Please don't be insulting. The fact is that they did a silent update before Broadwell chips were available, probably because they didn't want to wait for Intel anymore. Broadwell chips were available for the 13" on time and they used them, didn't they? If Intel hadn't been farting around for as long as they did and released the processor on time, then Apple probably would have used them in the 15". I've given this tons of thought and there are more reasons than just money. It think it's a little more multi-faceted that what you are portraying.

I love how there are always people on Macrumors who defend Apple to the hilt.

Reality is selling a product with Haswell in 2016 is just plain profiteering. How many other laptops are still being sold with Haswell right now? Basically none.

Broadwell chips for the 15" have been out for a year. Skylake ones for a good month now.

Again, this is MacRumors. What do you expect? People to endlessly trash them?
 
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Intel has screwed a lot of companies. They've been screwing nearly all Windows OEMs with faulty Skylakes. They're on track to screw over Apple and Window OEMs in 2017 with Kabylake. If we do get a MacBook Pro this year...the next update won't be till late 2017. SurfaceBook 2 won't be releasing till next year cause of Kabylake. Intel needs to get their **** together.
 
In my bones I feel that we will see 14 inch and 16 inch MBP. Same footprint, smaller bezels. Only 14 at WWDC. Marginally thinner of course and marginally lighter. Performance won't change much but battery life will be one hour better. Display will be same resolution (Apple will tell you when you need 4K) but will be wider colour gamut and trutone like the ipads.

MBP 16 will, if you pay them enough, have Polaris and be on a par with a PC with a 970M chip that is about to become obsolete once Pascal ships. It will be a very good laptop all things considered but sadly will not change the world...

There, how does that stack up? Sorry my English is bad, it is my 17th language and I don't want to be sacked
 
All this talk of buying Apple hardware made me want to make a purchase. So, I just used the $250 discount via BestBuy's Deals on their EDU site and ordered me a 128GB iPad Pro. :)

At least now I'll have a new toy to bide me over until the MBP comes out later in the year.
 
In my bones I feel that we will see 14 inch and 16 inch MBP. Same footprint, smaller bezels. Only 14 at WWDC. Marginally thinner of course and marginally lighter. Performance won't change much but battery life will be one hour better. Display will be same resolution (Apple will tell you when you need 4K) but will be wider colour gamut and trutone like the ipads.

MBP 16 will, if you pay them enough, have Polaris and be on a par with a PC with a 970M chip that is about to become obsolete once Pascal ships. It will be a very good laptop all things considered but sadly will not change the world...

There, how does that stack up? Sorry my English is bad, it is my 17th language and I don't want to be sacked

Those seem like realistic predictions and I'd be happy if they became true, though I think you're being slightly too optimistic thinking we'll get an announcement at WWDC! Everyone is unfortunately saying that it won't be until September, though considering the million and one things they're supposedly going to announce in September, that event is gonna be around 3 hours long.
 
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So one event to announce iPhone 7, Demo and release iOS 10, announce and demo Apple Watch2 and new watchOS, announce and demo new MacBook Pro with OS X 10.12, and release a new display All in one event seems crazy

Yeah, it seems ridiculous - even if they spend a small amount of time on each thing (which I can't imagine them doing - in the past they've spent ages recapping what they said about the new version of iOS back at WWDC) it'd be ridiculously long. Considering they essentially dedicate events to new Apple Watch bands, announcing so much stuff in one event seems quite un-Apple!

Though I fear that once they realised it'd be too long, the new MBP would be one of the first things they decide to delay - they certainly would prioritise the iPhone 7, Watch 2 and iOS 10, as they're more marketable and would likely have bigger sales.
 
Intel has screwed a lot of companies. They've been screwing nearly all Windows OEMs with faulty Skylakes. They're on track to screw over Apple and Window OEMs in 2017 with Kabylake. If we do get a MacBook Pro this year...the next update won't be till late 2017. SurfaceBook 2 won't be releasing till next year cause of Kabylake. Intel needs to get their **** together.

...or apple could spend some of their billions making their own chips for OS..problem solved...
 
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Yeah, it seems ridiculous - even if they spend a small amount of time on each thing (which I can't imagine them doing - in the past they've spent ages recapping what they said about the new version of iOS back at WWDC) it'd be ridiculously long. Considering they essentially dedicate events to new Apple Watch bands, announcing so much stuff in one event seems quite un-Apple!

Though I fear that once they realised it'd be too long, the new MBP would be one of the first things they decide to delay - they certainly would prioritise the iPhone 7, Watch 2 and iOS 10, as they're more marketable and would likely have bigger sales.

If they can't fit it into an event, they can just give us a press release. We don't need them to show it off on stage and tell us how great it is. We can figure that out ourselves. I'd rather they do that and have it out during July/August when there traditionally hasn't been an Apple event than to have to wait for them to squash it into the September iPhone event.
 
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...or apple could spend some of their billions making their own chips for OS..problem solved...
V hard, every apps must be compatible with those new chips, even so osx has less conpatible apps than windows and microsoft will make windows to be compatible with those new chips to run bootcamp?!?! V hard
 
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