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Intel has screwed a lot of companies. They've been screwing nearly all Windows OEMs with faulty Skylakes. They're on track to screw over Apple and Window OEMs in 2017 with Kabylake. If we do get a MacBook Pro this year...the next update won't be till late 2017. SurfaceBook 2 won't be releasing till next year cause of Kabylake. Intel needs to get their **** together.

The problems with the Surface Book were just appalling. The thing couldn't even go to sleep properly, though that was perhaps more Microsoft's fault than it was Intel's. I don't know. Still, it does seem like Skylake is a rather buggy release and this might be contributing to why Apple wants to wait until the fall to announce Skylake MBP's.
 
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Broadwell-E? What are you trying to express?
 
V hard, every apps must be compatible with those new chips, even so osx has less conpatible apps than windows and will make windows to be compatible with those new chips to run bootcamp?!?! V hard

...IOS+OS are coming together...may take time and apple have drawn clear lines for the moment...but it's
happening...Windows?...hmmm, maybe Windows compatability will be ditched...nobody 'likes' Windows, right?
 
Just can't see Apple releasing everything in Sept, especially with that normally being the big iPhone event. Here's a thought, no updates on MacBook Pro until March 2017..............
 
Just can't see Apple releasing everything in Sept, especially with that normally being the big iPhone event. Here's a thought, no updates on MacBook Pro until March 2017..............

That's such a horrible thought :eek: I really hope Apple won't do that - they'd lose a lot of sales and a lot of people would simply move away from Mac - but I can easily imagine getting to Q4 then reading a headline: "analyst says new MacBook Pros not coming until Q2 2017, will still feature Skylake"... the stuff of nightmares.
 
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V hard, every apps must be compatible with those new chips, even so osx has less conpatible apps than windows and microsoft will make windows to be compatible with those new chips to run bootcamp?!?! V hard
Actually, has anyone thought about getting an A-Series ARM SOC in the new MBP? Touch ID function need a extra secure enclave with non-violate memory encryption which an A-series SOC already has.
An A-series chip can also used to run iOS apps for future iOS app compatibility.

I am wondering the reason why OS X DMG size raised from orm Lion's 3.9 GB to El Capitan's 6.2 GB...
If only they have the intention to use their SOCs on the MacBooks...
 
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Just can't see Apple releasing everything in Sept, especially with that normally being the big iPhone event. Here's a thought, no updates on MacBook Pro until March 2017..............
Hmm what about ipad pro and apple tv in the same iphone event last year?
Since the big updates for their products are now longer, they can have fewer events/year
 
Mainstream America probably wouldn't realize the current rMBP was released in 2015. They only see it as the "latest model." Apple could release this thing in Summer of '17 and we'd be right there ordering our BTOs as soon as it's announced. I don't see the delays really impacting them.
 
Actually, has anyone thought about getting an A-Series ARM SOC in the new MBP? Touch ID function need a extra secure enclave with non-violate memory encryption which an A-series SOC already has.
An A-series chip can also used to run iOS apps for future iOS app compatibility.

Plus, I don't know if this is true, but
https://tidbits.com/article/14617
I am wondering the reason why OS X DMG size raised form Lion's 3.9 GB to El Capitan's 6.2 GB...
If only they have the intention to use their SOCs on the MacBooks...
Lol, you noticed the article's date right?
 
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Are we still likely to see a new version of MagSafe or just straight to USB-C?
 
The new MBP probably won't be a dramatic shift to the extent that the 2015 MacBook was, and that product was certainly not influenced by Jobs (who wouldn't have known about USB-C, or butterfly keyboards, or Core M processors, or the fact that the product could ever be that thin!) so I really think you shouldn't worry.

I completely disagree. In my opinion, if there's something that Apple has made during the last year that was inspired by Steve, it would be the new MacBook. I consider the rMB to be the continuation of Steve's ambition with the MBA. Steve really cared about the details of his products. Just rewatch his two MBA introductions and you'll see how enthusiastic he was about the design, thinness, how small the machine is and the fact that SSD didn't have any moving parts! The new MacBook is just another big step in the direction that he guided Apple to. There's so much thought behind the new rMB, things like the new metal hinge, terraced batteries, new cleaner keyboard backlights, no moving parts (fanless) thanks to the Core M and the full sized keyboard that defines the width of the laptop. The force touch trackpad is definitely something that Steve would have been proud about. He was probably also involved in the design of the Lightning port which influenced the design of USB-C. The one USB-C port is also a statement that Apple made to show the world that it is time to think about the wireless future (skate to where the puck is going to be). These are all things that Steve would have deeply cared about.

It didn't matter that Steve wasn't here to supervise the design team of the rMB. They already knew his vision about the future of the laptop and so even today his thoughts and ideals are still present at Apple and the next MBP will continue in the same direction that Steve set for the MacBooks.
 
@Serban this is my first and last question about your leaks or infos.

You've stated "since this is a MBP thread..." BUT it still seems to me you've not clearly said NO NEW HW is going to be announced/released at WWDC.

Is it possible they're going to show us a new no-pro macbook in a week?
 
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I just don't see how they can launch 3 new products at an event. 2 tops. Even though signs point to a slight refresh for this new iPhone they still have slight refreshes every S model and that takes the whole event. Even launching the watch besides the phone that wasn't a full launch and didn't come out till 8 months later or something with a separate launch event. Launching 3 products that I'll come out soon in the same even doesn't seem possible. Not with previous events. I can see them delaying the launch of the MacBook Pro but I still see them announcing them in a week with possibly July - September release dates.
 
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@Serban this is my first and last question about your leaks or infos.

You've stated "since this is a MBP thread..." BUT it still seems to me you've not clearly said NO NEW HW is going to be announced/released at WWDC.

Is it possible they're going to show us a new no-pro macbook in a week?
I can't wait for his response
 
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Are we still likely to see a new version of MagSafe or just straight to USB-C?

I think it would be a bad move for Apple to remove one of their most loved features in the MacBook line.
Could there be a USB-C magsafe variant? Maybe.

I guess we'll just have to wait some more to find out :(
 
I completely disagree. In my opinion, if there's something that Apple has made during the last year that was inspired by Steve, it would be the new MacBook. I consider the rMB to be the continuation of Steve's ambition with the MBA. Steve really cared about the details of his products. Just rewatch his two MBA introductions and you'll see how enthusiastic he was about the design, thinness, how small the machine is and the fact that SSD didn't have any moving parts! The new MacBook is just another big step in the direction that he guided Apple to. There's so much thought behind the new rMB, things like the new metal hinge, terraced batteries, new cleaner keyboard backlights, no moving parts (fanless) thanks to the Core M and the full sized keyboard that defines the width of the laptop. The force touch trackpad is definitely something that Steve would have been proud about. He was probably also involved in the design of the Lightning port which influenced the design of USB-C. The one USB-C port is also a statement that Apple made to show the world that it is time to think about the wireless future (skate to where the puck is going to be). These are all things that Steve would have deeply cared about.

It didn't matter that Steve wasn't here to supervise the design team of the rMB. They already knew his vision about the future of the laptop and so even today his thoughts and ideals are still present at Apple and the next MBP will continue in the same direction that Steve set for the MacBooks.

I completely agree. The MacBook is basically the ultimate culmination of Steve's vision for the notebook. A lot of people complain about the MacBook because it's either too thin or has a Core M processor that they feel is gimped. And, of course, we cannot dismiss the dissatisfaction expressed due to a sole port, either. However, Steve was all about computing "for the rest of us". For the average person, the MacBook is a wonderful machine that has enough power, and it possesses a degree of portability that approaches that of an iDevice to boot.

Many people like to crap on the MacBook, offering it up as evidence that Apple has lost their way, and is now a company that insists on making only "toys". However, to me, the MacBook is the most concrete evidence that Apple hasn't lost it and still possesses a great amount of vision. I believe that it is probably the most significant product from Apple in years, and from the post-Steve Jobs era in general. (We can this from all of the "me too" products that have been released since it's introduction.)
 
I completely agree. The MacBook is basically the ultimate culmination of Steve's vision for the notebook. A lot of people complain about the MacBook because it's either too thin or has a Core M processor that they feel is gimped. And, of course, we cannot dismiss the dissatisfaction expressed due to a sole port, either. However, Steve was all about computing "for the rest of us". For the average person, the MacBook is a wonderful machine that has enough power, and it possesses a degree of portability that approaches that of an iDevice to boot.

Many people like to crap on the MacBook, offering it up as evidence that Apple has lost their way, and is now a company that insists on making only "toys". However, to me, the MacBook is the most concrete evidence that Apple hasn't lost it and still possesses a great amount of vision. I believe that it is probably the most significant product from Apple in years, and from the post-Steve Jobs era in general. (We can this from all of the "me too" products that have been released since it's introduction.)
Yes and dont forget the first macbook air was just like that, and after 2 years was starting to become one of the most loved consumer mac
The macbook with core m cannonlake will be a complete mac like the air it was 2 years ago
 
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