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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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new rMBPs announced at WWDC confirmed?
Iris Pro is built into the CPU, whereas a AMD or NVIDIA dGPU are additional components that generate more heat. Dedicated graphics cards are >2.5x faster than integrated.
Maybe we'll see an Xeon CPU (no Iris Pro) paired with Polaris?
Maybe we'll see an Xeon CPU (no Iris Pro) paired with Polaris?
Finally a confirmation from a reliable source that MBPs are announced at WWDC. yay
I read a newspaper article which compared the Iris Pro 580 to a NVIDIA 945M. The performance is equal to a NVIDIA 945M !
Iris Pro has certainly improved significantly, but the chips are still no match for a modern dedicated GPU. Iris Pro 580 can run at ~1152 GFLOPS. The supposedly "leaked specs" for Polaris 11 put it somewhere at ~2500 GFLOPS.
I kinda used the same attitude for my tests during the second grade school.
"Ok, I screwed up completely, I'm never going to pass it."
Bad was, most of the time I was right...
Nah, Kaby Lake is more likely.
Well I guess as long as my MBA 2011 11" is somehow working out, Im in no urge for upgrading it?
Would love to have some more power considering RAM,CPU for my virtual machines though. Or just for a little round League of Legends etc.
Or to have a nice screen. Or to have a bigger screen. Or to have faster ports. (USB2 is slow as ****). Or to have WiFi ac.
Jesus Apple. Just bring out the new devices. I wont buy that oldschool 13" 2015 rMBP. Theres no reason to buy such an outdated machine for such a ridiculous price.
If their new machines are released end of the year with ! Skylake ! I guess Im going to buy some windows-machine.
Would love to have some more power considering RAM,CPU for my virtual machines though. Or just for a little round League of Legends etc.
Or to have a nice screen. Or to have a bigger screen. Or to have faster ports. (USB2 is slow as ****). Or to have WiFi ac.
Jesus Apple. Just bring out the new devices. I wont buy that oldschool 13" 2015 rMBP. Theres no reason to buy such an outdated machine for such a ridiculous price.
If their new machines are released end of the year with ! Skylake ! I guess Im going to buy some windows-machine.
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Would 945m be around the same as Surface Book? If so it's not bad, but also not good.
The heat would be equal to zero !? Have you ever played with a > 940M ? Every notebooks feels like lava. Especially if the rMBP gets the best skylake cpu with this thinness ! Can't wait to see this damn Macbook..
For sure if you compare it to a dGPU device. Especially the battery life/thinness profits from the iGPU
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I remember watching the Stevenote on YouTube where he introduced the PowerMac G4. He touted it as the world's first personal supercomputer because it was capable of running at 1 GFLOP. Computing sure has advanced a lot of mindboggling ways, hasn't it? Yeesh!
New ps4.5(over 4 tflops) comes in October, next xbox (over 6tflops) will debut in 2017 so If you like to play AAA games with graphics on high probably not early.
iGPU is more like a parasite that's forced onto the CPU by Intel. Check out this die shot of a Skylake chip. The GPU part likely has less perf/watt than a dedicated graphics card, but it just runs at a lower wattage (and almost 2.5x slower). Apple could include a dGPU with low wattage and better performance than the iGPU, but they might as well use the iGPU for "free" as it comes with the CPU anyway.For sure if you compare it to a dGPU device. Especially the battery life/thinness profits from the iGPU
Random quote from random article from 2014
"Nvidia claims to have an even bigger competitive advantage when it comes to power consumption—a critical issue when you’re talking about a notebook PC running on a battery. According to Nvidia, if you play the epic role-playing game Elder Scrolls at 1080p resolution with medium image quality on a notebook with an Intel Core i5-4210U, you’ll get a frame rate of just 10 frames per second, while the CPU and integrated GPU will consume 15 watts of power between the two components. Play the game at the same resolution and image quality on a notebook with the same CPU, but with Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 840M processor, and the company claims you’ll get 30 frames per second while the two components consume 17 watts—three times the frame rate at an added power cost of just two watts."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2107...l-new-geforce-800m-line-of-notebook-gpus.html
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Wait until you see the new ~22 TFLOP nMP
However, according to this article, we waive on 20 frames per second because of 2 watts of power ?
This article was written in 2014, since 2014 Intel improved the efficiency. You can't compare a iGPU from 2014 with a iGPU from 2016.
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Just as you can't compare a dGPU from 2014 with a dGPU from 2016. Especially considering dGPU's have gone from 28nm to 14/16nm whereas iGPU's have gone from 14nm to 14nm.
[doublepost=1465207228][/doublepost]Um, did I just find a bug in the forum? I think I accidentally posted your quote with nothing attached and now it's glitched into thinking that you double posted
[doublepost=1465207228][/doublepost]Um, did I just find a bug in the forum? I think I accidentally posted your quote with nothing attached and now it's glitched into thinking that you double posted
iGPU is more like a parasite that's forced onto the CPU by Intel. Check out this die shot of a Skylake chip. The GPU part likely has less perf/watt than a dedicated graphics card, but it just runs at a lower wattage (and almost 2.5x slower). Apple could include a dGPU with low wattage and better performance than the iGPU, but they might as well use the iGPU for "free" as it comes with the CPU anyway.
Random quote from random article from 2014
"Nvidia claims to have an even bigger competitive advantage when it comes to power consumption—a critical issue when you’re talking about a notebook PC running on a battery. According to Nvidia, if you play the epic role-playing game Elder Scrolls at 1080p resolution with medium image quality on a notebook with an Intel Core i5-4210U, you’ll get a frame rate of just 10 frames per second, while the CPU and integrated GPU will consume 15 watts of power between the two components. Play the game at the same resolution and image quality on a notebook with the same CPU, but with Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 840M processor, and the company claims you’ll get 30 frames per second while the two components consume 17 watts—three times the frame rate at an added power cost of just two watts."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2107...l-new-geforce-800m-line-of-notebook-gpus.html
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Wait until you see the new ~22 TFLOP nMP
Just think of how much faster our notebook processors would be if Intel were to (hypothetically, of course, because it will never happen) get rid of the iGPU. There would be lot more room on the processor die for about four more cores it looks like. Perhaps we would be seeing actual CPU performance increases. Though I am not sure how that would work with heat and power consumption though. Perhaps it wouldn't be feasible on a technical level.
Just as you can't compare a dGPU from 2014 with a dGPU from 2016. Especially considering dGPU's have gone from 28nm to 14/16nm whereas iGPU's have gone from 14nm to 14nm.
[doublepost=1465207228][/doublepost]Um, did I just find a bug in the forum? I think I accidentally posted your quote with nothing attached and now it's glitched into thinking that you double posted
You are right, twice
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You are right, twice
I edited my post that's the reason for the double post
As opposed to buying... another 2015 15" rMBP? Unless your laptop is dying because you threw it in a swimming pool or something, what difference does the release date make? I'll be disappointed if it doesn't come out though because I advised so many people in December to wait until WWDC for those ~amazing~ graphics improvements
Apple has no excuse to not release a new rMBP in June/July. All of the parts should be available so I'll be very annoyed if they delay it simply because they're waiting for the new macOS to be released.
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